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Last I checked, China was a Communist country, and the companies that produce iPhones are de facto government entities, even if they are nominally privately owned. China's government has been subsidizing their "private" companies for decades with cheap forced labor as well as cash as a form of economic warfare, allowing them to compete unfairly on the world market against companies that actually pay their workers.

 

And Congo is a hellhole run by warlords and their armed gangs, who use slave labor to dig diamonds and other minerals, which is just slightly different than how things are done in most developed capitalist countries.

 

None of your examples are capitalist societies, the slavery and exploitation you're decrying is being done by socialist/totalitarian regimes.

But it's capitalist companies who do business with these devils. They could buy from anyone else. They could make it here. But they don't. Why?

 

The end result of capitalism is greed. Anything to make an extra buck.

Even if those companies didn't buy from them, they would still be communist.

 

Historically speaking communist/socialist rein far supreme on democide. Not just leading by a few but literally TENS OF MILLIONS

https://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/MEGA.HTM

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I'd rather have a conversation with an athletic supporter than a Sanders supporter!  At least the former is of some use.

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Kind of sad really, they give low info voters a bad name.

 

What was to be expected letting .gov run the education system for a hundred years?

Yep ... this sad sad sad shit.

 

Still better than that woman... she still have any supporters?

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Sadly, enough to get her elected...

 

My nightmare scenario is this: a Clinton / Trump match up.

My fear is that Trump would scare the crap out of lefties enough to mobilize them to get out and vote while the internecine infighting that is occurring on the right is alienating conservative voters.  I know for myself that I would have a very hard time voting at all if it was a choice like that.  I would hold my nose and hate it but I of course would choose Trump but I wonder how many others would choose to opt out from voting at all...

 

If that occurs, Hitlery is our doom and goodbye America...

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Sanders is the only HONEST Dem running! He is a man of his word, and makes no bones about telling you EXACTLY where he stands. I applaud his honesty, but abhor his Politics.

Sanders is too far from mainstream to accomplish much as a Pres. he could screw up the SCOTUS, but overall he would be  Jimmy Carter - but even less effective.

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"If that occurs, Hitlery is our doom and goodbye America"

 

I recall the exact same thing being said on gun boards 9 years ago about "Maobama" yet here we all still are.

 

America is strong. You cannot just kill America so easily. Long live the USA, est. 1776

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"If that occurs, Hitlery is our doom and goodbye America"

 

I recall the exact same thing being said on gun boards 9 years ago about "Maobama" yet here we all still are.

 

America is strong. You cannot just kill America so easily. Long live the USA, est. 1776

Yep we are still here  twenty TRILLION in debt  two HUNDRED TRILLION in unfunded liabilities.......for the idiots out there, thats just more debt

we are the laughing stock of our enemies.

We have abandoned our allies 

The entire planet is in chaos, the middle east in flames

Millions of Christians have been executed

Europe is being over run with islamists

The border is a joke

The dept of justice is a joke

The IRS is now a tool of the communists

The stage was set for an actual card carrying  communist to run for pres

I could go on and on and on and on

 

We are still here, but we are diminished beyond belief  

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"If that occurs, Hitlery is our doom and goodbye America"

I recall the exact same thing being said on gun boards 9 years ago about "Maobama" yet here we all still are.

America is strong. You cannot just kill America so easily. Long live the USA, est. 1776

Time to wake up now.

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Ok....this thread has gone all to hell. I was trying to point out Killary's weakness. Nothing more. If Sanders supporters stay home on election day to spite her, she's not winning. Plain and simple.

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If you were a Sanders supporter and you faced a future with a President Trump -- would you stay home and not vote???

 

Not so plain and simple my friend

 

And Fallboy;

I envy your naive hopeful attitude towards the future of our once great country but the facts undermine it.  Sure the U.S. will still be here but the America that I have fought and bled for, the ideals, bedrock principals and rights and freedoms that I believe in will not be -- if you can remain happy with the prospect of that America in the future then, please be content to remain being part of the problem and NOT part of any solution... 

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Some folks operate under the delusion that America survived BO.

They forget America is not now nor ever was lines on a map,

it was a proposition to convey ideals and further the experiment in liberty and the rights of men.

Those ideals are utterly absent not just within the government but the entire culture.

 

So folks were right, it didnt survive BO but I am not convinced it was even alive before him.

It is debatable. 

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"If that occurs, Hitlery is our doom and goodbye America"

 

I recall the exact same thing being said on gun boards 9 years ago about "Maobama" yet here we all still are.

 

America is strong. You cannot just kill America so easily. Long live the USA, est. 1776

Yep we are still here  twenty TRILLION in debt  two HUNDRED TRILLION in unfunded liabilities.......for the idiots out there, thats just more debt

we are the laughing stock of our enemies.

We have abandoned our allies 

The entire planet is in chaos, the middle east in flames

Millions of Christians have been executed

Europe is being over run with islamists

The border is a joke

The dept of justice is a joke

The IRS is now a tool of the communists

The stage was set for an actual card carrying  communist to run for pres

I could go on and on and on and on

 

We are still here, but we are diminished beyond belief  

 

http://www.progressivestoday.com/obama-skipping-scalias-funeral-but-will-meet-black-live-matter-activists/

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It'll be a sad day in America if an admitted Socialist makes it past the primaries.

 

There a difference from a progressive?

Pretty sure everyone has that down pat since the Time cover pronouncing us all socialists.

 

He just owned the term and frankly I respect his doing so though that is as far as it goes.

Look for more as the fad takes hold. 

 

I remember a year or so ago arguing with a Sanders supporter who was trying to convince me that Bernie was not a socialist, even though he said so himself.

 

Oh right, he's a "democratic socialist," which so far as I can tell, the only difference between that and "real" socialism is that under democratic socialism, you might still get to vote.

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East Germany was the DDR

 

Deutsche Demokratische Republik

 

 

...and we all know how that turned out.

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Just remember G.W. got us into this shit in the middle east! Terrorist attack on WTC. my ass! WMD's my ass! Also, do you really think it would make any difference at all who the fuck is APPOINTED to the W.H.???? or that your vote really counts???? The rich cocksuckers that run this country/planet are directing this show. We the People don't have shit to say about anything. Our current freedom??? is simply an illusion from the past. This agenda has been going on for decades. JFK tried to warn us, just before he was murdered by our  own fucking government.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3KeR3yMZi0g And NO this isn't just some half-assed conspiracy theory......it's fact. Face it! America is taking its final breaths. The only thing left is to fight and die or exist as some rich prick's slave. Read the Georgia Guide Stones. That will tell you what's in store. It's just a matter of time before we have another false flag event. Then they can claim their marshal law, Obongo can stay as King Barry, and they can complete their destruction of our once great Republic. Too many sheep hiding their heads in the sand to thwart their plans. So, enjoy the little that you have left. Judge Napolotano knows what's headed our way.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UgGnBCDfCLM

Not what if, but when!

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Off the meds are we?

OK wise-ass, what do you think is going on in this country if you're so fucking smart!!!!???? You like where this country is headed? You like the Patriot Act, NSA, NDAA and all of the other shit that is taking away our freedoms so the elitists can make their fortunes on war and the deaths of our brave American soldiers? Do you also believe a hand full of ragheads that couldn't even fly a Piper Cub could navigate a huge airliner with the precision that even veteran pilots deny the ability? Where's the wreckage at the Pentagon? Titanium jet engine parts just don't disintegrate and disappear. Where is the damage from the wings and engines? How does jet fuel melt steel beams and concrete? Explain these and make me a believer.

 

Oh yeah! You think Napolotano is full of shit too? I think not!

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Oh I plainly see all the ills in our country, most likely much more than you.

I like the judge...he wasnt fired by the way

The real tough heat resistant metal in jet engines is not titanium...its inconel  718 I believe

Its been proven 9 times to sunday the conspiracy crap on 911 and beams is total horse shit.

Taking off in a large aircraft takes training, landing one is 10 times more complicated

Actually disengaging autopilot and flying one is childs play, I spent tons of time in a c141 flight simulator...could flt it anywhere, almost always crashed when trying to land.

veteran pilots would laugh at your assertion.

I seriously doubt you ever served in the armed forces, so i dont think you have much to say on soldiers in combat.

Be a patriot, be smart, do all you can do to right our country.

 

Dont swallow bs hook line and sinker

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I seriously doubt you ever served in the armed forces, so i dont think you have much to say on soldiers in combat.

No, I wasn't in the military, however I did enlist before ever leaving high school but was rejected. That doesn't mean that I don't grieve over the waste of human life for no good reason. That our nations finest young men and women are being sacrificed so some rich bastards can make their fortunes at other peoples expense. I still don't believe that 9-11 wasn't somehow orchestrated on the governments behalf. Just way too many convenient coincidences coming together to allow this to happen. Why is the engine turbine that was found blocks away from the trade center the wrong engine type for those aircraft? You still didn't answer about why there was no wreckage or bodies, luggage, seats, landing gear at the pentagon or in PA. This shit just doesn't disappear!

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I seriously doubt you ever served in the armed forces, so i dont think you have much to say on soldiers in combat.

No, I wasn't in the military, however I did enlist before ever leaving high school but was rejected. That doesn't mean that I don't grieve over the waste of human life for no good reason. That our nations finest young men and women are being sacrificed so some rich bastards can make their fortunes at other peoples expense. I still don't believe that 9-11 wasn't somehow orchestrated on the governments behalf. Just way too many convenient coincidences coming together to allow this to happen. Why is the engine turbine that was found blocks away from the trade center the wrong engine type for those aircraft? You still didn't answer about why there was no wreckage or bodies, luggage, seats, landing gear at the pentagon or in PA. This shit just doesn't disappear!

 

 

they were not real aircraft that hit the WTC towers, it was a hard light hologram, I thought everyone knew this. the holograms were just cover for the thermite charges which ignited a dilithium crystal matrix, embedded in the building steel from the day it was constructed - yes the attacks were planned that long ago. and did you know, all the jews stayed home on 9/11. I know because a guy on Drudge said he was a jew and he got a call from shylock HQ on 9/10 that said, stay home tomorrow, and stock up on pickles, they're gonna be in short supply for a while.

 

are we even going to talk about how Judge Napolotano is a Alpha Centaurian? how can you even trust anything he says?

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Dude not one piece of what you are posting is actually true.

just one of countless conspiracy theories dreamed up by idiots, for consumption of the weak minded.

 

dont fall for all that crap

 

and no the military industrial complex does not start all the wars

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You like the Patriot Act, NSA, NDAA and all of the other shit that is taking away our freedoms so the elitists can make their fortunes on war and the deaths of our brave American soldiers?

 

 

And probably the biggest irony here is that you vote Republican. 

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