Guest FULL_AUTO_990 Posted April 28, 2004 Report Share Posted April 28, 2004 can the saiga shoot the 7.62x59mm bullets or be converted to do so? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bigfoot Wallace 0 Posted April 28, 2004 Report Share Posted April 28, 2004 No, I will not fit. .308 is a closer caliber, but i would not attempt a conversion or try to shoot it! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chips 0 Posted April 28, 2004 Report Share Posted April 28, 2004 did you mean 7.62x51 or maybe 54? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
KySoldier 2 Posted April 28, 2004 Report Share Posted April 28, 2004 ...or 7.62x61 ? (30-06) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest FULL_AUTO_990 Posted April 28, 2004 Report Share Posted April 28, 2004 something a little more powerful than the 7.62x39mm. does any company covert calibers? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hemophilic 0 Posted April 28, 2004 Report Share Posted April 28, 2004 The 7.62 saiga rifle was designed to fire medium powered cartridges like 7.62x39. I WOULD NOT recommend changing your rifle to accept high power cartridges. It would probably be a more economical decision to just purchase a Saiga 308 anyway. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest FULL_AUTO_990 Posted April 28, 2004 Report Share Posted April 28, 2004 well then where can i get some hot loaded 7.62x39mm bullets, something with more kick , power, and loudness. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
G O B 3,516 Posted April 28, 2004 Report Share Posted April 28, 2004 SAIGA-100 andVEPER's come in 30-06! G O B (ps-check EAA webpage) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest FULL_AUTO_990 Posted April 28, 2004 Report Share Posted April 28, 2004 im looking for bullets that i can buy Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fish Shooter 0 Posted April 28, 2004 Report Share Posted April 28, 2004 On reason the 762 39 doesn't have the "kick" you desire is because an AK reciever isn't supposed to. You still have 1500ish lbs of force from the bullet, which is like three to five times that of popular handgun forces. If I turn the gas off on my SKS a 762 39 has a totally different feel to it-too much kick in fact, to be accurate while running from tanks and shooting the forces of evil. Also, 1500ish lbs of force is plenty to take care of most needs. The type of projectile is what is important. Remember, these things were designed to kill people, not elk or bears. You wanna 'off some elks then you'll probably need a more powerful bullet. Other than that, the standard Saiga bullets are really good. Have faith in them! (and on the bright side, they're more powerful than those 223's...) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fish Shooter 0 Posted April 28, 2004 Report Share Posted April 28, 2004 Wait. I take it back. These things were meant to wound people. Killing them does not depleat the resources of the forces of evil as quickly. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tengu 0 Posted April 29, 2004 Report Share Posted April 29, 2004 You should try handloading ammunition for your 7.62 X 39 to get maximum power. However, when handloading you should approach maximum loads with extreme caution. Heavier bullets will make the rifle recoil harder. Adding a muzzle brake will make the rifle noisier as well. I really don't understand why you want the rifle to kick harder and sound louder as it will only make it more unpleasant to shoot. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BattleRifleG3 16 Posted April 29, 2004 Report Share Posted April 29, 2004 Almost any specific situation in which you would need a more powerful bullet than 7.62x39mm would be just as well served by a full power bolt gun or semi-auto. Full power means 308, 30-06, 8mm Mauser, 7.62x54R, and the like. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest FULL_AUTO_990 Posted April 29, 2004 Report Share Posted April 29, 2004 yeah but the saiga 308 has that gayish blondish stock, which i dont like. if only it could look like an AK-103 and have a 30rnd mag. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BattleRifleG3 16 Posted April 29, 2004 Report Share Posted April 29, 2004 If you must have a hi-cap 308, buy a G3, CETME, or FAL variant. If you don't like the wood stock, Saiga 308s come with Synth furniture as well. And you can do a forend conversion, though with a little more work than the other chamberings. Consider also the ROMAK II/PSL/SSG chambered in 7.62x54R if you want a very com-bloc looking full powered rifle. They are now coming in 18" "paratrooper versions" which I think is a joke but you may find desireable. Trying to convert just to have a larger caliber will probably be less economical than buying a different gun. I have a Saiga 308 on the way and would like nothing more than to develop a hi-capacity conversion. One idea I had involved replacing the bar that crosses the receiver with an external brace integrated with a mag-well for G3 mags. If I end up doing it, that could be good news for many who want a 308 hi-cap AK. M14 mag conversions have been done, but are not the most sound for the Saiga. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
aka108 0 Posted April 29, 2004 Report Share Posted April 29, 2004 I doubt you will ever find any 7.62X39 ammunition which is loaded hotter than industry standards. No manufacturer or importer wants to spend time and dollars being sued. The only way you will get hotter stuff is to reload yourself and then you had better stick within the guidelines set by the powder manufacturer. It would, however, be interesting to see what a compressed load of Bullseye or Accurate No.2 would do if I could watch from at least 60 feet away. Some parts would really go flyin'. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest FULL_AUTO_990 Posted April 29, 2004 Report Share Posted April 29, 2004 so they have black synthetic stocks like the saiga 7.62x39mm for the saiga 308? is there any place that sells the 308s with the black stock? post some pics. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
G O B 3,516 Posted April 29, 2004 Report Share Posted April 29, 2004 Full Auto 990 Check out EAA the SAIGA-100 comes with synthetic stock. I defenitly have one of these on my wish list! G O B Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bigfoot Wallace 0 Posted April 30, 2004 Report Share Posted April 30, 2004 www.militarygunsupply.com has synth. .308 with 16' barrels Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chips 0 Posted April 30, 2004 Report Share Posted April 30, 2004 (edited) so they have black synthetic stocks like the saiga 7.62x39mm for the saiga 308?is there any place that sells the 308s with the black stock? post some pics. i put the synthetic stock from a 7.62x39 saiga on my .308. krebbs sells them here's a picture... Edited April 30, 2004 by chips Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BattleRifleG3 16 Posted April 30, 2004 Report Share Posted April 30, 2004 Full Auto 990 Check out EAA the SAIGA-100 comes with synthetic stock. I defenitly have one of these on my wish list! G O B They keep promising them and promising them and they never get them in. They've been moving the date back for years now. I'm fed up. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
G O B 3,516 Posted April 30, 2004 Report Share Posted April 30, 2004 Those with LONG GREEN can get a valmut from sako.I hear these are wickedly accurate,but no hi-cap mags. G O B Quote Link to post Share on other sites
alduro 0 Posted May 1, 2004 Report Share Posted May 1, 2004 I actually LIKE the wood stock....anybody want to sell theirs? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest FULL_AUTO_990 Posted May 1, 2004 Report Share Posted May 1, 2004 how come AK-103.com doesnt sell a AK-103 in the 308 caliber? i just want a gun that looks like the AK-103 but in a 308. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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