ChileRelleno 7,071 Posted February 19, 2016 Report Share Posted February 19, 2016 (edited) http://buzzpo.com/nj-charges-out-of-state-leo-with-felony-for-having-his-legal-gun-with-him/ LEOs hate it when they don't get special treatment. But if an ordinary citizen can't carry, then they shouldn't be able to either, should they? I think they should be able to, on or off duty, anywhere they go. But so should any law abiding citizen according to our God given rights and the words of the Constitution. That said, this is just asinine on New Jersey's part. I'm sure some DA is drooling thinking about the political points he is racking up with his fellow Socialist Anti-gun Liberals. Don't get me going on the LEOs calling us civilians and thinking they're something else. Edited February 19, 2016 by ChileRelleno 6 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
storm6490 2,768 Posted February 20, 2016 Report Share Posted February 20, 2016 Wow, that's pretty fucked up. He must have been hit by the Jersey cop's mafia boss. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rhodes1968 1,638 Posted February 20, 2016 Report Share Posted February 20, 2016 "But so should any law abiding citizen according to our God given rights and the words of the Constitution." As soon as one precedes the word citizen with "law abiding" then one has bought into the entire narrative that yields LE these special privileges. Dont you get it yet? No one can be law abiding, it is entirely impossible given the ambiguity, illegality, and sheer mass of the legal code as written and enforced. And that folks is the entire premise for it being that way. If it is a God given right then only God's laws can be used to establish "law abiding", that is not nearly or remotely the case is it?. Just think on it a bit. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
G O B 3,516 Posted February 20, 2016 Report Share Posted February 20, 2016 As my father in law used to say "the Government makes crooks out of honest people". The first rule of control is to make it IMPOSSIBLE to comply with with arbitrary 'laws' especially when they are contradictory and impossible to fathom. 40 FEET of shelf space is needed to hold the IRS rules and laws. It is IMPOSSIBLE for anyone to comply with them , as no one KNOWS just WHAT they all say. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rhodes1968 1,638 Posted February 20, 2016 Report Share Posted February 20, 2016 Funny thing is, in fact hilarious were it not so serious, is a guy that is found in noncompliance with tax codes is just as much a felon as the guy that beats and rapes children. May even get less time if a pedophile judge is around and there seems to be plenty. Yeah the whole thing stinks to the point of nausea. The PA LE knew about NJ laws, bet he knew all about the poor woman that just went through this and decided his own statist rules didnt apply to him. Pretty common aint it, gots not one shred of pity. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
blessthefall 27 Posted February 21, 2016 Report Share Posted February 21, 2016 (edited) The PA LE knew about NJ laws, bet he knew all about the poor woman that just went through this It's impossible to read the man's thoughts, but probably not. Maybe down south cops are familiar with guns laws (or there are simply so few) but in much of the northeast, the average cop has no idea what's legal or illegal, especially when you get into "assault weapons" nonsense. Which makes it even scarier because you never know if some local cop will think that neutered AR is illegal. That said cops generally feel they are above the law. Because most of the time they literally get away with murder. These guys know that DUI is illegal yet they literally get on the highway and do 100MPH completely shitfaced drunk (after a night of hookers in Newark) because they figure one of their cop buddies will just let em off, and they usually do. Then again, sometimes they go DUI and against traffic on the highway and kill a bunch of people, in which case we call them heroes and mourn their unexpected death and give lots of money to their family. Edited February 21, 2016 by blessthefall Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Spacehog 2,218 Posted February 21, 2016 Report Share Posted February 21, 2016 The PA LE knew about NJ laws, bet he knew all about the poor woman that just went through this It's impossible to read the man's thoughts, but probably not. Maybe down south cops are familiar with guns laws (or there are simply so few) but in much of the northeast, the average cop has no idea what's legal or illegal, especially when you get into "assault weapons" nonsense. Which makes it even scarier because you never know if some local cop will think that neutered AR is illegal. That said cops generally feel they are above the law. Because most of the time they literally get away with murder. These guys know that DUI is illegal yet they literally get on the highway and do 100MPH completely shitfaced drunk (after a night of hookers in Newark) because they figure one of their cop buddies will just let em off, and they usually do. Then again, sometimes they go DUI and against traffic on the highway and kill a bunch of people, in which case we call them heroes and mourn their unexpected death and give lots of money to their family. Chile, I apologize for my this in advance, as this is your thread and I have great respect for you my friend. Blessthefall, all I have seen from you on this forum is political crap that espouses liberal talking points. As you have already eloquently stated everyone is entitled to their opinions, and I agree. But you have not espoused one original thought that I have not heard ad nauseum on CNN or MSNBC. Do you own a firearm? Why not start adding something constructive firearm related to this forum. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
blessthefall 27 Posted February 21, 2016 Report Share Posted February 21, 2016 But you have not espoused one original thought that I have not heard ad nauseum on CNN or MSNBC. Likewise, one could also make the useless assertion that one has already heard your talking points ad nauseum on FOX or Breitbart. Considering I have quite a bit of experience with police unions and misconduct in the northeast, I wouldn't be so quick to dismiss it. Especially since I am referring to actual events that have happened in recent memory. Do you own a firearm? I thought we all lost ours in a tragic boating accident? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sim_Player 1,939 Posted February 21, 2016 Report Share Posted February 21, 2016 (edited) But you have not espoused one original thought that I have not heard ad nauseum on CNN or MSNBC. Likewise, one could also make the useless assertion that one has already heard your talking points ad nauseum on FOX or Breitbart. Considering I have quite a bit of experience with police unions and misconduct in the northeast, I wouldn't be so quick to dismiss it. Especially since I am referring to actual events that have happened in recent memory. Do you own a firearm? I thought we all lost ours in a tragic boating accident? Nope, I still have all of mine. You don't fit. Move along. You are very irritating, IMHO. You have contributed nothing. (Someone, please ban this guy, if he doesn't leave,) Edited February 21, 2016 by Sim_Player 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
G O B 3,516 Posted February 21, 2016 Report Share Posted February 21, 2016 Some people have nothing TO contribute! Just come here in an election year to stir up shit. 70 posts, and NOT ONE with any relevant information on the main focus of the forum. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
blessthefall 27 Posted February 21, 2016 Report Share Posted February 21, 2016 I'm still waiting for you to point out what it was about my post that is not correct. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
patriot 7,197 Posted February 21, 2016 Report Share Posted February 21, 2016 You can lead a horse to water, but sometimes.... you just have to drown the fucker. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sim_Player 1,939 Posted February 22, 2016 Report Share Posted February 22, 2016 (edited) I smell a Troll. Edited February 22, 2016 by Sim_Player Quote Link to post Share on other sites
blessthefall 27 Posted February 22, 2016 Report Share Posted February 22, 2016 (edited) I smell a Troll. Okay okay, I guess Google is hard so I'll find you the article. These are the kind of goons that wear a badge in the Garden State. http://www.nj.com/union/index.ssf/2015/10/wrong-way_crash_pedro_abad_linden_cop_second_court.html The Linden cop charged in an alleged drunk-driving crash in which two people were killed in March may have been drugged by strippers at the club where the group partied before the crash, his lawyer said in court today. ..... Abad, 28, faces charges of aggravated vehicular homicide and manslaughter as part of a 27-count indictment stemming from the crash that occurred shortly before 5 a.m. on March 20, when he drove the wrong way on the West Shore Expressway in Staten Island and crashed head-on into a tractor-trailer. ..... Abad was charged with drunk-driving in two prior accidents, one in Roselle in 2011 and the other in Rahway in 2013. The Roselle charge was later dropped because Abad's attorney failed to receive evidence, but Abad pleaded guilty in the Rahway case, where he was caught on a police dashcam failing a sobriety test. Edited February 22, 2016 by blessthefall Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JonWienke 131 Posted February 22, 2016 Report Share Posted February 22, 2016 This is probably not going to end well for the state, for the simple reason that law enforcement officers don't have to be within their jurisdiction or "on duty" to arrest someone if an individual commits a felony in their presence. So while the PA cop's powers of arrest are more limited than a NJ cop while he is in NJ, he still has that authority in limited circumstances. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChileRelleno 7,071 Posted February 22, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 22, 2016 Every citizen has that basic power of arrest to stop/apprehend a felon. It is IMO, the right and duty of a citizen to do exactly that if they've the means and opportunity. My State's laws allow us to use deadly force against a violent felon. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
evlblkwpnz 3,418 Posted February 22, 2016 Report Share Posted February 22, 2016 Every citizen has that basic power of arrest to stop/apprehend a felon. It is IMO, the right and duty of a citizen to do exactly that if they've the means and opportunity. My State's laws allow us to use deadly force against a violent felon. Sweet Home Alabama! Alabama now goes on my must visit list. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jerry52 893 Posted February 22, 2016 Report Share Posted February 22, 2016 (edited) "Then again, sometimes they go DUI and against traffic on the highway and kill a bunch of people, in which case we call them heroes and mourn their unexpected death and give lots of money to their family. " blessthefall! Sounds like you hate cops. I though bashing cops is a no no here! NO "LEO bashing" - Law Enforcement Officers are our friends. These are people that risk their very lives so that the others can get better sleep at night. The owners and management of this forum will neither support nor tolerate “LEO bashing”. If you do not agree with the law, please go through the appropriate channels, such as contacting your senator and expressing your opinion to them as he or she is up for re-election soon and will be glad to listen. If you are upset that you got a “speeding ticket” please find another website to vent if you like coming to this one - “venting” on this forum will get you banned. If you do not agree with this rule – please do not register!!! Edited February 22, 2016 by jerry52 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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