Sublimeon24s 17 Posted February 25, 2016 Report Share Posted February 25, 2016 Hello guys, Im sure its been asked 10000 times but are 8rd SGM mags reliable? Also, anyone know what this handguard is? I like how thin / streamline it is compared to pretty much every other option out there. Thanks in advance Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChileRelleno 7,071 Posted February 25, 2016 Report Share Posted February 25, 2016 SGM is OK, AGP is IMO better. But the best are CSSPECS steel S12mags in 8 or 10. Not sure on HG, phone doesn't zoom+ well. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SGL 530 Posted February 25, 2016 Report Share Posted February 25, 2016 To backup what Chile said, here's my list in order of preference. Range mags...AGP over SGM. Friends don't let friends buy Promags. The drums may be ok, but should still be considered range mags.Also, Korean 5 rounders work great. Serious mags...My favorite is still the Izhmash 8 round polymer, but the CSSpecs steel mags are awesome too. The Izzy 8s have a weight advantage and don't have a spine to cut into the webbing of your hand during reloads. I have short fingers so this is a real issue with me using the CSSpec mags. I actually wrapped a section of several layers of gorilla tape across the spine where I grip them which helps. Also, don't rule out the factory 5 rounders as they are awesome magazines. I like to use them as dedicated slug mags as they can fit in a pants pocket and be easily identified. A quick side note here...Gabe Suarez has a great tip about using .308 magpul "mag pulls" on slug mags as identifiers. The MD Arms drum is durable and utterly reliable but very heavy and bulky. My drum is a range toy, but others do keep them for self defense and this isn't out of line if the weight and bulk don't bother you. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SGL 530 Posted February 25, 2016 Report Share Posted February 25, 2016 (edited) The Suarez trick for identifying slug mags mentioned above. Edited February 25, 2016 by SGL Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JonWienke 131 Posted February 25, 2016 Report Share Posted February 25, 2016 The ProMag 12-round drums are actually quite good. They feed reliably and are quite compact--they stick out below the receiver about the same as the factory 5-round stick mag. Mine have been trouble-free with ammo powerful enough to cycle the gun. I also have 2 of the MD Arms 20-round drums, and while they are reliable and seem pretty tough, they do add noticeable bulk and weight to the gun. You definitely want a vertical front grip if you run them; it makes reaching around the drum much easier. The CSSPECS stick mags are excellent. The only caveat with them is that you may get rim lock when shooting 3" shells, but there is a follower redesign in the works that will fix that. I've had no problems with them when shooting 2.75" shells. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
netpackrat 566 Posted February 25, 2016 Report Share Posted February 25, 2016 (edited) I bought a bunch of SGM mags and couldn't get them to work worth a shit, so I got rid of them. Izhmash all the way. This is how I identify slugs vs. buckshot in my mag pouch: Edited February 25, 2016 by Netpackrat Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pedal2alloy 206 Posted February 25, 2016 Report Share Posted February 25, 2016 I bought a bunch of SGM mags and couldn't get them to work worth a shit, so I got rid of them. Izhmash all the way. This is how I identify slugs vs. buckshot in my mag pouch: Braille, that's smart. And it would be good for blind shooters as well 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gunfun 3,931 Posted February 26, 2016 Report Share Posted February 26, 2016 To backup what Chile said, here's my list in order of preference. Range mags... AGP over SGM. Friends don't let friends buy Promags. The drums may be ok, but should still be considered range mags. Also, Korean 5 rounders work great. Serious mags... My favorite is still the Izhmash 8 round polymer, but the CSSpecs steel mags are awesome too. The Izzy 8s have a weight advantage and don't have a spine to cut into the webbing of your hand during reloads. I have short fingers so this is a real issue with me using the CSSpec mags. I actually wrapped a section of several layers of gorilla tape across the spine where I grip them which helps. Also, don't rule out the factory 5 rounders as they are awesome magazines. I like to use them as dedicated slug mags as they can fit in a pants pocket and be easily identified. A quick side note here...Gabe Suarez has a great tip about using .308 magpul "mag pulls" on slug mags as identifiers. The MD Arms drum is durable and utterly reliable but very heavy and bulky. My drum is a range toy, but others do keep them for self defense and this isn't out of line if the weight and bulk don't bother you. IMO SGM> AGP, etc, because they are one piece. No seams screws or steel clip to get out of whack. I've had the steel feedlips pop off of the izzy 5s a few times, and I've seen AGP owners complain about that in the past. That aside, As for your hand, get some of this:http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00BFRX7H0/ref=pd_lpo_sbs_dp_ss_3?pf_rd_p=1944687562&pf_rd_s=lpo-top-stripe-1&pf_rd_t=201&pf_rd_i=B00BFWUZ2K&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_r=1NGVE1G2XXGJPX11DNHV or this:http://www.amazon.com/Cowles-T5602-Black-Edge-Trim/dp/B001EA0LJK/ref=pd_sim_sbs_60_2?ie=UTF8&dpID=41DV2HY8QyL&dpSrc=sims&preST=_AC_UL160_SR160%2C160_&refRID=1Z8QEP7CH7X2M9A5DKYN ,etc. You can get a pack of 3-4 30" sticks of this stuff for about $3.50 at most auto parts stores. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SGL 530 Posted February 26, 2016 Report Share Posted February 26, 2016 As for your hand, get some of this:http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00BFRX7H0/ref=pd_lpo_sbs_dp_ss_3?pf_rd_p=1944687562&pf_rd_s=lpo-top-stripe-1&pf_rd_t=201&pf_rd_i=B00BFWUZ2K&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_r=1NGVE1G2XXGJPX11DNHV or this:http://www.amazon.com/Cowles-T5602-Black-Edge-Trim/dp/B001EA0LJK/ref=pd_sim_sbs_60_2?ie=UTF8&dpID=41DV2HY8QyL&dpSrc=sims&preST=_AC_UL160_SR160%2C160_&refRID=1Z8QEP7CH7X2M9A5DKYN ,etc. You can get a pack of 3-4 30" sticks of this stuff for about $3.50 at most auto parts stores. I now remember reading this suggestion in the past but it slipped my mind. Thanks for taking the time to track down those links. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
netpackrat 566 Posted February 26, 2016 Report Share Posted February 26, 2016 Braille, that's smart. And it would be good for blind shooters as well It's a shotgun, after all. It isn't as though you have to aim. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gunfun 3,931 Posted February 26, 2016 Report Share Posted February 26, 2016 I knew there had to be a reason I hung out here. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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