BeatTheTunaUp 65 Posted April 21, 2016 Report Share Posted April 21, 2016 So let's say hypothetically a co-worker is known to be "off", takes antipsychotics, talks to himself when no one is around, and does a lot of generally weird things. He has also admitted to being kicked out of VA housing for not taking his meds or going to his meetings. Yesterday he comes in boasting about buying a S&W Shield and asking where he can take conceal carry classes. Everyone gets immediately on edge. We notice that he spends 5 minutes staring at the emergency exit diagram of the building and also stood at his desk and spent several minutes with a 1000 yard stare surveying the workforce. Now I'm all about gun rights and don't want to take them from anybody, but everyone here knows this guy isn't right mentally. What to do? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Spacehog 2,218 Posted April 21, 2016 Report Share Posted April 21, 2016 Report it. Plain and simple. You may be saving several lives including your co-workers...and until that time I would cc at work regardless of the rules. My 2 cents FWIW 9 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChileRelleno 7,071 Posted April 21, 2016 Report Share Posted April 21, 2016 (edited) Same as Spacehog... Report to supervisor in writing, exactly what you've witnessed and how you feel he poses a high risk of potential danger to you and everyone else. Use the magic words, "I do not feel safe in your work environment with a person known to be mentally unstable in possession of a firearm." Do this and if anything happens sue them for failing to provide a safe workplace. Sue them for denying you your 2A Right to defend yourself. Be very wary of that mofo and regardless of any company policy, carry at work. Edited April 21, 2016 by ChileRelleno 8 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Long Shot 1,287 Posted April 21, 2016 Report Share Posted April 21, 2016 Statistically the odds of him doing something stupid are very low, on the other hand it sounds like he sure fits the profile. Hard not go all hyper sensitive on something like this. Perhaps invite him deer hunting and provide him a fur coat and antler hat. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sim_Player 1,939 Posted April 21, 2016 Report Share Posted April 21, 2016 Report him to everyone that you can think off and carry! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChileRelleno 7,071 Posted April 21, 2016 Report Share Posted April 21, 2016 Perhaps invite him deer hunting and provide him a fur coat and antler hat.LMMFAO! 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HB of CJ 1,263 Posted April 21, 2016 Report Share Posted April 21, 2016 More than that. Talk to the boss immediately and report everything you have seen and what you are thinking. If your boss choses not to take immediate action, call 911. In the meantime watch the guy carefully. This might be a perfect reason for you to also ignore the kill free zone signs or policy and carry your own handgun while watching him. All of this seems overboard? Well ... what if it was not enough? HB; retarded RN including crisis intervention and physk tecking in the lock down place. Do not delay with this. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
YOT 3,743 Posted April 21, 2016 Report Share Posted April 21, 2016 Hypothetically I would say "Hey, dude, what's up? You seem a little off lately.", but I spent 23 years talking to psychotic murderers and acting on the response. The others above have given good advice, too. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HB of CJ 1,263 Posted April 21, 2016 Report Share Posted April 21, 2016 Yep ... most likely much to do about nothing. We all have our off days. Odds are nothing will come of it. One thing you can go by is your gut feeling or hunches. This is the rest of your brain taking to you. If you "feel" uncomfy about all of this, then pro actively act upon it. But ... here is the other boot falling hard. No good deed shall go unpunished. Non intended repercussions. You plant the wind, you reap the whirlwind. Much of this is subjective. Crazy folks sometimes are very hard to read as already said better. A hard decision to make. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
evlblkwpnz 3,418 Posted April 21, 2016 Report Share Posted April 21, 2016 (edited) I can't help but wonder how he is answering 11f on the 4473 ETA: and whether or not he is answering truthfully? Edited April 22, 2016 by evlblkwpnz 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
evlblkwpnz 3,418 Posted April 22, 2016 Report Share Posted April 22, 2016 (edited) dupe Edited April 22, 2016 by evlblkwpnz Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sim_Player 1,939 Posted April 22, 2016 Report Share Posted April 22, 2016 Two words. Chris Kyle Quote Link to post Share on other sites
netpackrat 566 Posted April 22, 2016 Report Share Posted April 22, 2016 Got any vacation time coming? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jerry52 893 Posted April 23, 2016 Report Share Posted April 23, 2016 So let's say hypothetically a co-worker is known to be "off", takes antipsychotics, talks to himself when no one is around, and does a lot of generally weird things. He has also admitted to being kicked out of VA housing for not taking his meds or going to his meetings. Yesterday he comes in boasting about buying a S&W Shield and asking where he can take conceal carry classes. Everyone gets immediately on edge. We notice that he spends 5 minutes staring at the emergency exit diagram of the building and also stood at his desk and spent several minutes with a 1000 yard stare surveying the workforce. Now I'm all about gun rights and don't want to take them from anybody, but everyone here knows this guy isn't right mentally. What to do? If you did not see the gun he probably did not get one. He might be just acting out for attention. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rhodes1968 1,638 Posted April 23, 2016 Report Share Posted April 23, 2016 (edited) Your call as it's your life but absolutely would carry and keep sit-aware. It is also possible, not saying how likely, the actions are being misinterpreted due to the edginess we are all feeling. Crazy is everywhere these days, all just part of the whole mess. One reason I keep a pistol that is easily deeply concealed. Edited April 23, 2016 by Rhodes1968 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DLT 1,646 Posted April 23, 2016 Report Share Posted April 23, 2016 Agree with everyone else here. Report it up and keep your eyes open. I agree with the antler hat, but he might be an armadillo hat man and could take offense to the horns. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rhodes1968 1,638 Posted April 23, 2016 Report Share Posted April 23, 2016 So go into the woods with this guy while he is armed... Heh... Heheh ... HAHAHAAHA... no You guys are funny as hell Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HB of CJ 1,263 Posted April 23, 2016 Report Share Posted April 23, 2016 Yep, we may be funny as hell. Could you tell us how and why? Could be. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Long Shot 1,287 Posted April 23, 2016 Report Share Posted April 23, 2016 Not so much funny "ha ha" More like funny " Hhmmm" that's funny. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tundra1 391 Posted April 23, 2016 Report Share Posted April 23, 2016 Everybody funny, now you funny too. 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
VR762Shooter 838 Posted April 23, 2016 Report Share Posted April 23, 2016 If their reporting policy allows you to report without him being notified it was you, do it. If you get reported to him as the reporter, avoid the place like the plague. Vaca time, burst your own appendix, hell claim you need "mental health" days. Whatever you do, if he knows you may be carrying, avoid him. He will try to remove the greatest obstacles first so keep your eyes open 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sim_Player 1,939 Posted April 24, 2016 Report Share Posted April 24, 2016 Waiting for an update...... Stay safe. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
poolingmyignorance 2,191 Posted April 25, 2016 Report Share Posted April 25, 2016 Type a letter, mail it addressed to HR. Don't include your name. Make up something official sounding. Disclose your concerns and sign it "A Concerned Employee" If that doesn't raise some flags, they don't intend to do anything. Oh and carry every day. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gunfun 3,931 Posted April 25, 2016 Report Share Posted April 25, 2016 That sounds like a good way to get a 'no one carries at work' policy that only applies to people who expect to come back to work. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mancat 2,368 Posted April 26, 2016 Report Share Posted April 26, 2016 throw an office party for him complete with stripper in a cake just like in Under Siege 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sim_Player 1,939 Posted April 26, 2016 Report Share Posted April 26, 2016 (edited) throw an office party for him complete with stripper in a cake just like in Under SiegeNah, just can him and surround the windows and doors with armed employees. Private Owners can still make their own laws. Edited April 26, 2016 by Sim_Player Quote Link to post Share on other sites
YOT 3,743 Posted April 26, 2016 Report Share Posted April 26, 2016 No hypothetical updates from the OP since the first post. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BeatTheTunaUp 65 Posted April 26, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 26, 2016 No hypothetical updates from the OP since the first post. Im still alive and happy to report all is quiet on the western front. Some of the gossip ladies here already notified the correct people for me, so thats cool. Its just been business as usual, but with my head on a swivel and escape routes planned in all directions just in case. Thanks for the tips. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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