sjgusmc21 850 Posted April 30, 2016 Report Share Posted April 30, 2016 If you have read my posts, you know I am a staunch conservative. Always have been, always will be. I have watched Fox News for quite some time....and Bill O'Reilly for probably over 9 years. Well, that now has come to an end. I tried to give Bret Baier a fair shake, but damn the management there must have gotten to him as well. In fairness, he is probably one of the least opinionated people there. Doesn't matter, I just cannot get over how one sided the entire channel is for Trump. No, its not because i am against Trump and yes I am. It's because they have always flaunted (and for the most part deservingly) the fact that they are unbiased, and fair. How can they EVEN use those two words...FAIR and BALANCED any longer when it pertains to their programs? They are the only 'conservative' cable news network there is. That is why I watched Bill and Bret Baier. No one else. Well, Fox, you have permanently lost a viewer. You are now the official Donald Trump Super Pact (yes...they have been for a while) No big deal, right? Wrong. http://www.adweek.com/tvnewser/april-2016-ratings-cnn-is-no-1-in-prime-time-demo-on-cable-news/291717 So, you keep on Bloviating Bill about how great Thou Trump is, and how you are so fair and balanced, while your ratings continue to tank...and that is a good thing. Ever watch international news? Wow, what our news networks could learn from them. Brutal, in your face truth and facts. Yeah, I am done. And to be honest, my life has been better now that I have stopped getting upset over the idiot toob. Have a great weekend folks and sorry for the rant. I just hate seeing so many make such important decisions because they can't think for themselves. Semper Fi! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
randumbthoughts 75 Posted April 30, 2016 Report Share Posted April 30, 2016 (edited) All mainstream media outlets have been staunchly, ridiculously, anti-Trump since last summer. He IS the presumptive Republican nominee. Record number of votes in the primary, massive delegate lead, about to clinch the nomination after a few more states. He has the potential to steamroll Clinton in the general like no other candidate could. In a more civilized election cycle, Lyin' Ted and the One-State Wonder would have conceded a month ago and got behind their front runner. Now, a few certain programs are FINALLY warming up to Trump. Mainly Hannity, O'Reilly, and Greta. Even Megyn is coming around. Good to hear. Three words I never want to hear? President Hillary Clinton. Edited April 30, 2016 by randumbthoughts 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sjgusmc21 850 Posted April 30, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 30, 2016 Love how you used the 'Lyin' Ted' Dump regurgitation. No surprise. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JDeko 792 Posted April 30, 2016 Report Share Posted April 30, 2016 I am mortified that I'm rooting for Ted Cruz but here I am... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
randumbthoughts 75 Posted April 30, 2016 Report Share Posted April 30, 2016 All I can tell you is I'm a pragmatist. With Trump, there is a strategy. There is a path. It may not be the most ideologically pure one. It may not be the perfect one. But it's better than a President Clinton that talks about social justice 24/7 and a Supreme Court that votes 5-4 that the 2A isn't a right. At this point, what are the alternatives? Sure, Ted is ideologically pure. He also looks like a slime ball, and has almost zero appeal with moderate voters, especially in the Great Lakes region battleground states that will essentially decide the election. (facts) So we let this Cruz guy literally steal the nomination through obstructionist strategy and shady backroom convention rule loopholes and cleverly gaming the system. Piss off tens of millions of voters. Then turn around and expect none of that situation to be used against him? It's too late for Ted. Maybe 2020/2024. He's young. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JDeko 792 Posted April 30, 2016 Report Share Posted April 30, 2016 Except Trump has basically been Hillary Clinton all his life politically up until running as a Republican. As I see it we either have Hillary up there being awful and people saying "so THIS is a Democrat..." Or we can have orange Hillary with a dick and have people say "So THIS is a Republican..." If we're electing a big government authoritarian I'd rather they not drag the Republican party down with them. ...Unless the GOP flat out dies from this an the Libertarian Party becomes the new second party, in which case TRUMP 2016! MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN! WINNING! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Machinist 150 Posted April 30, 2016 Report Share Posted April 30, 2016 Do you believe a person grows as we all age? Or do you believe we remain the same person as we started this journey into adulthood? Just an honest question, I know my personal experiences have changed me over the decades... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JDeko 792 Posted April 30, 2016 Report Share Posted April 30, 2016 I don't think most people make abrupt 180 changes in all their political beliefs within a year of running for president. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
james lambert 3,059 Posted April 30, 2016 Report Share Posted April 30, 2016 I wish trump could be trusted to follow through on his rhetoric. But I think he is just a bully who will say anything to get elected, and he is a new york city liberal at heart 6 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Machinist 150 Posted April 30, 2016 Report Share Posted April 30, 2016 Time to stand behind the Republican nomination... Delegate count is 1001 at this time...Or vote for Hillary? 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sjgusmc21 850 Posted April 30, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 30, 2016 He also looks like a slime ball So we let this Cruz guy literally steal the nomination through obstructionist strategy and shady backroom convention rule loopholes and cleverly gaming the system OK, again, no surprise. And oh, the system is RIGGED, RIGGED I TELL YOU!! COLUSIONNNNNNNNN, OMG, THEY ARE COLLUDING AGAINST ME! ITS NOT FAIR!! Amazing. To hell with the constitution right? Whatever. I don't drink the koolaid, never have. IF Trump is our Nominee, hello President Hillary Clinton. Not saying it would be different with Ted Cruz, but his negative numbers are not nearly as bad as Trumps. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rhodes1968 1,638 Posted April 30, 2016 Report Share Posted April 30, 2016 (edited) Nothing but an observation but does the air of panic seem to be settling in over this process? Hildabeast may or may not be in some serious hot water with the law, don't under estimate that little fiasco, less has sunk better. Cruz... god only knows what game is afoot with him but from the reactions from various parties unheard of in modern times something certainly is. Trump... well he just makes a lot of people crazy, seriously full tilt bozo crazy. BFYTW still seems to be his primary draw. The public is acting insane, the pols are doing likewise, it is all coming apart at the seams. Working as intended? Never have I been so glad to see no legitimacy in an election, hate to think I had a horse in this fucked up race. Makes me feel sane... Edited April 30, 2016 by Rhodes1968 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
randumbthoughts 75 Posted April 30, 2016 Report Share Posted April 30, 2016 (edited) OK, again, no surprise. And oh, the system is RIGGED, RIGGED I TELL YOU!! COLUSIONNNNNNNNN, OMG, THEY ARE COLLUDING AGAINST ME! ITS NOT FAIR!! Amazing. To hell with the constitution right? The RNC Primary process is not outlined in the Constitution..... It's made by the RNC rules committee, which made the current year's set of rules at the previous convention. Under those rules, for example, you have to have won at least 8 state primaries to accept the nomination. So why is a guy like Kasich, mathematically eliminated, and unable to accept the nomination even at a contested convention, still in the race? Under those same rules of a contested convention, did you know how the VP is chosen? It's chosen by the delegates. So mathematically eliminated Cruz is sitting there picking a VP...to try and take to a contested convention....where they can pick someone else? Here's the current RNC rules: https://s3.amazonaws.com/prod-static-ngop-pbl/docs/Rules_of_the_Republican+Party_FINAL_S14090314.pdf Republicans should get behind their nominee, Donald Trump. Unless they'd like to have President Hillary Clinton. Edited April 30, 2016 by randumbthoughts 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Machinist 150 Posted April 30, 2016 Report Share Posted April 30, 2016 Randumbthoughts - Your thought process and the presentation in writing to fellow forum members is excellent, in my humble opinion. Trump has energized the voters to go out and vote (fact), record numbers of votes! I understand some of the members are disappointed Cruz and Kasich are out of the race this year. Acceptance is the last emotion of the grieving process... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HB of CJ 1,263 Posted April 30, 2016 Report Share Posted April 30, 2016 I for one must remember that both the GOP and the DEMO parties are private clubs. They can make up and change the rules anytime they want. They can pick and choose whom they want. Anytime. The voters may think they have input but the reality is we are dealing with private institutions not bound by any real law? They can choose whom they may? Are conditions being set up for a really scary dark horse nominee from the GOP? Or will Trump throw a tantrum and run as an independent? And who is this retired Marine 4 Star James Mattis? . Could HE run as an independent and really make things interesting? Has all of this been designed from the beginning ... or is the chaos real? I dunno. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Machinist 150 Posted April 30, 2016 Report Share Posted April 30, 2016 I for one must remember that both the GOP and the DEMO parties are private clubs. They can make up and change the rules anytime they want. They can pick and choose whom they want. Anytime. The voters may think they have input but the reality is we are dealing with private institutions not bound by any real law? They can choose whom they may? Are conditions being set up for a really scary dark horse nominee from the GOP? Or will Trump throw a tantrum and run as an independent? And who is this retired Marine 4 Star James Mattis? . Could HE run as an independent and really make things interesting? Has all of this been designed from the beginning ... or is the chaos real? I dunno. Republican acceptance of Trump into the "club"? Not sure he is inside the club? GOP is trying to deny membership to Trump, not a great decision to the future of the party, in my opinion...Just an old man's take on the political mess in today's world we live in. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Machinist 150 Posted April 30, 2016 Report Share Posted April 30, 2016 Nothing but an observation but does the air of panic seem to be settling in over this process? Hildabeast may or may not be in some serious hot water with the law, don't under estimate that little fiasco, less has sunk better. Cruz... god only knows what game is afoot with him but from the reactions from various parties unheard of in modern times something certainly is. Trump... well he just makes a lot of people crazy, seriously full tilt bozo crazy. BFYTW still seems to be his primary draw. The public is acting insane, the pols are doing likewise, it is all coming apart at the seams. Working as intended? Never have I been so glad to see no legitimacy in an election, hate to think I had a horse in this fucked up race. Makes me feel sane... Living in Ohio I guess I never fully appreciated Boehner (voted for him) until this week! His opinion of Cruz, WOW, tell us how you really feel about Cruz... 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HB of CJ 1,263 Posted April 30, 2016 Report Share Posted April 30, 2016 Fox news is one the long list of network type sites we hit every day. Not so good. Are there any independent news agencies that are more likely just to report the news as it really happens? Without any spin? We need more input from conservative type news sites. Any specific recommendations? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
VR762Shooter 838 Posted April 30, 2016 Report Share Posted April 30, 2016 This has been my father-in-laws complaint for some time. Although the poor strategy of the Republican Party against Trump in the starting phases of the primaries and the ridiculous overpopulation of runners at the start of it didn't help, Fox News has given him more than a "fair share" of air time which I'm sure didn't detract from his following Quote Link to post Share on other sites
randumbthoughts 75 Posted April 30, 2016 Report Share Posted April 30, 2016 This has been my father-in-laws complaint for some time. Although the poor strategy of the Republican Party against Trump in the starting phases of the primaries and the ridiculous overpopulation of runners at the start of it didn't help, Fox News has given him more than a "fair share" of air time which I'm sure didn't detract from his following With ~330 million people in the USA, having 17 people vying for one party's nomination is very reasonable. A lot more reasonable than a party that only had three candidates, that is if you count the guy who dropped out after a week, and the guy who isn't even a Democrat. The Republican Party had HUGE names this time around. Jeb Bush, needs no introduction. Scott Walker, nationally known. Ted Cruz, architect of the shutdown. John Kasich, been in politics almost 30 years. Marc Rubio, fresh face of the Republicans, responder to the State of the Union address. When someone beats a single team, wins a single game, you can say they got lucky. You can chalk it up to a lucky pass, a lucky kick, a fluke, an error by the other team. Beginner's Luck. When they beat all sixteen opponents, you send them to the playoffs. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
VR762Shooter 838 Posted April 30, 2016 Report Share Posted April 30, 2016 When you want an establishment candidate to win your parties nomination you don't run 17 candidates and ignore the fact the "outsider" is gathering mass appeal. The Republican Party's issue is they let 16 people destroy each-other and basically gave no mind to the Trump movement. As an outsider that's poor strategy but I couldn't care less as I'm not a republican so what mistakes they make have no bearing on my thoughts. I liked Cruz as he is the most non-conforming of the Republicans but still has a lot of Libertarian ideals like removing IRS and I believe he'd try for them rather than blow smoke up everyone's ass like Trump. The masses are angry and no one went after Trump when they should have now he'll lose to Hitlery. Yay America! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
patriot 7,197 Posted May 1, 2016 Report Share Posted May 1, 2016 I just did a little looking up.... Republican voter turnout is way up this time around. Democrat voter turnout is down this time around. Looks like we stand a decent chance of getting our Nation back this time around. No, I'm not looking it up again for you. Do the research. You'll learn something. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
frz1197 128 Posted May 1, 2016 Report Share Posted May 1, 2016 Trump will save the country. Just wait till the libtards start rioting in Cleveland. I'm sure some gangbanger will pull a gun on a cop and will be put down. From there I'm sure the rioting and looting will expand to a civil war. A few years of war later, most of the crap will hopefully be dead and being a libtard will then be illegal. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sjgusmc21 850 Posted May 1, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 1, 2016 VR6Shooter, unfortunately, I believe you are correct sir. That is what I have been saying. Trump will get Hillary elected. So again, congrats America, here's to another 4-8 years of bullshit shoved down our throats and the constitution being ass raped. Well done. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
VR762Shooter 838 Posted May 1, 2016 Report Share Posted May 1, 2016 I just did a little looking up.... Republican voter turnout is way up this time around. Democrat voter turnout is down this time around. Looks like we stand a decent chance of getting our Nation back this time around. No, I'm not looking it up again for you. Do the research. You'll learn something. You have to keep in mind voter turnout in primaries doesn't tell the story. Independent voters make up the largest group and aren't counted in the equation. Here in MA, we had a lower Dem turnout but a higher GOP turnout and even with a 25% increase in GOP turnout the numbers were staggeringly against Trump, who won the party. Clinton beats Trump here ~75% to ~~25% Now if there was indeed a 20% Dem reduction here as they said and those people come out in November it makes it even worse. Don't get me wrong. I will likely have to vote Trump when the time comes specifically due to us not having a Libertarian candidate even on the ballot and having to try my best to get Hitlery to lose. The amount of displeasure the Republican party and its voters have for Trump would need to turn around quick before he has a chance against her. 80% of women say they won't vote Trump. That's a serious issue when ~40% of available voters say they wouldn't consider voting for you Quote Link to post Share on other sites
randumbthoughts 75 Posted May 1, 2016 Report Share Posted May 1, 2016 I just did a little looking up.... Republican voter turnout is way up this time around. Democrat voter turnout is down this time around. Looks like we stand a decent chance of getting our Nation back this time around. No, I'm not looking it up again for you. Do the research. You'll learn something. You have to keep in mind voter turnout in primaries doesn't tell the story. Independent voters make up the largest group and aren't counted in the equation. Here in MA, we had a lower Dem turnout but a higher GOP turnout and even with a 25% increase in GOP turnout the numbers were staggeringly against Trump, who won the party. Clinton beats Trump here ~75% to ~~25% Now if there was indeed a 20% Dem reduction here as they said and those people come out in November it makes it even worse. States vote as a single unit at the Electoral College. Whether someone wins MA by 51-49 or 96-4 is irrelevant. It's the same end result. States like MA are simply not relevant - they are Democrat strongholds that are expected to vote democrat, and thus not part of either party's strategy. It's too hard to win as a Republican, and too easy as a Democrat, for either party to bother campaigning there. Same situation with most of the northeast, west coast, and the deep south. Where you have to look at are places like Michigan, Pennsylvania, etc. Those are the only states that really matter in the general election. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
james lambert 3,059 Posted May 1, 2016 Report Share Posted May 1, 2016 Could be time for some states to secede from the union Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Machinist 150 Posted May 1, 2016 Report Share Posted May 1, 2016 I just did a little looking up.... Republican voter turnout is way up this time around. Democrat voter turnout is down this time around. Looks like we stand a decent chance of getting our Nation back this time around. No, I'm not looking it up again for you. Do the research. You'll learn something. You have to keep in mind voter turnout in primaries doesn't tell the story. Independent voters make up the largest group and aren't counted in the equation. Here in MA, we had a lower Dem turnout but a higher GOP turnout and even with a 25% increase in GOP turnout the numbers were staggeringly against Trump, who won the party. Clinton beats Trump here ~75% to ~~25% Now if there was indeed a 20% Dem reduction here as they said and those people come out in November it makes it even worse. States vote as a single unit at the Electoral College. Whether someone wins MA by 51-49 or 96-4 is irrelevant. It's the same end result. States like MA are simply not relevant - they are Democrat strongholds that are expected to vote democrat, and thus not part of either party's strategy. It's too hard to win as a Republican, and too easy as a Democrat, for either party to bother campaigning there. Same situation with most of the northeast, west coast, and the deep south. Where you have to look at are places like Michigan, Pennsylvania, etc. Those are the only states that really matter in the general election. I just did a little looking up.... Republican voter turnout is way up this time around. Democrat voter turnout is down this time around. Looks like we stand a decent chance of getting our Nation back this time around. No, I'm not looking it up again for you. Do the research. You'll learn something. You have to keep in mind voter turnout in primaries doesn't tell the story. Independent voters make up the largest group and aren't counted in the equation. Here in MA, we had a lower Dem turnout but a higher GOP turnout and even with a 25% increase in GOP turnout the numbers were staggeringly against Trump, who won the party. Clinton beats Trump here ~75% to ~~25% Now if there was indeed a 20% Dem reduction here as they said and those people come out in November it makes it even worse. States vote as a single unit at the Electoral College. Whether someone wins MA by 51-49 or 96-4 is irrelevant. It's the same end result. States like MA are simply not relevant - they are Democrat strongholds that are expected to vote democrat, and thus not part of either party's strategy. It's too hard to win as a Republican, and too easy as a Democrat, for either party to bother campaigning there. Same situation with most of the northeast, west coast, and the deep south. Where you have to look at are places like Michigan, Pennsylvania, etc. Those are the only states that really matter in the general election. VR6Shooter, unfortunately, I believe you are correct sir. That is what I have been saying. Trump will get Hillary elected. So again, congrats America, here's to another 4-8 years of bullshit shoved down our throats and the constitution being ass raped. Well done. Trump is polling well in Ohio...Recent general elections Ohio and Florida have decided the presidential election. Trump as in the past elections needs Ohio. Ohioians are pissed-off at d.c. So relax and support the presumptive GOP candidate! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Odd Man Out 1,283 Posted May 2, 2016 Report Share Posted May 2, 2016 Just wondering how many of you really think that anyone can turn the country around? Trump? In my opinion he will be the ultimate polarizing influence. Obama should have been but conservatives are just too polite. Don't you believe that the dems/libtards will go down without a fight that will last for years. Unless conservatives get their heads out of their asses (unlikely), I predict all trump will do as the republican nominee is to light a fire under the libtards to turn out and vote. And actually what does it really matter? Oh yeah I know we will lose the supreme court and our freedoms and way of life will go down the drain but being 62 I can look back on "the way it was back in the day" and see how our morals and ethics have already slid down the chute of degradation. Imho we have been ignorant far too long but I'm afraid that if we really wake up we will realize that we are just frogs in a pot and the water has gotten too hot to survive. And beyond that what does it really matter? Trillions and trillions and trillions of debt that we ignore. And we still elect idiots like Clinton or Trump to lead us. I know that there are many like myself that scratch their heads and wonder why we have sunk this low. Does that make me and you any less culpable for the decline of our country because we sat back and did nothing to prevent it? But what can we do? I will tell you all one thing and I state it here for all (you listening NSA?) to know and understand; I WILL DEFEND THE SECOND AMENDMENT WITH MY LIFE! If "they" arrive to try and confiscate my guns I will not let them to the extent I can. I believe that the 2nd Amendment is worth dieing for. Without it there is nothing else. Got off on a bit of a rant -- so be it. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sjgusmc21 850 Posted May 2, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 2, 2016 Odd man....I'm 52 and I completely agree with you. I do think we are to far gone by now. What a shame. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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