My completed Saiga 12

[Heartbreaker 1,085]

Well, here she is! Finally got my parts from Shannon and put her back together. She ran beautifully with Federal #8 1-1/8oz 1200fps bulk ammo.

 

Couple things happened during reassembly. The BHO was forcefully lost and never heard from again (it is SO FREAKING EASY TO ASSEMBLE THE FCG WITHOUT IT!!!), and the safety was notched ala Krebs for replacement. Also ground down the safety so it won't interfere with the disconnector.

 

NOW FOR PICS!

 

 

 

 

[JDeko 792]

That bitone color scheme looks pretty awesome [coming from someone who dislikes ARs and poly furniture in general].

[Heartbreaker 1,085]

That bitone color scheme looks pretty awesome [coming from someone who dislikes ARs and poly furniture in general].

Yes, I'm very fond of dual color guns. Quite a few of mine are grey/stainless and black.

[YOT 3,743]

I see that you found a place for the sight, too.   

 

 

[JDeko 792]

Tis a very unique placement, I noticed, but I imagine it works  well for you. 

[Heartbreaker 1,085]

It was more due to having nowhere else to put it. I actually just came up with a far better way. The mount is supposed to be for piggybacking a red dot onto a scope, but with a bit of modification it works fantastically with excellent cowitness.

 

 

Edited May 10, 2016 by Heartbreaker

[YOT 3,743]

Where did the side rail go?

[Heartbreaker 1,085]

Where did the side rail go?

I removed it because the left charging handle won't work with an optic mount.

[Mullet Man 2,114]

Very odd placement. Interesting tho.

Seems like shouldering it comfortably would be a challenge.

 

Why not just use the rear sight dovetail to mount the optic?

Edited May 10, 2016 by Mullet Man

[YOT 3,743]

Yeah, there seem to be some other options out there.

[Heartbreaker 1,085]

It's actually fairly easy to shoulder. The rear of the sight is 4 inches from my face so its not a huge deal. It also gives a much more natural cheekweld without a riser. Plus it cowitnesses the factory sights. How many AK optic mounts do that? I may get a more compact sight in the future..

[YOT 3,743]

Co-witnessing for a shotgun?

 

It's a shotgun. It doesn't even need sights.

 

ETA: I like your shotgun, you did a good job with it. I'm not a fan of the sight on it, but it's yours, so have fun with it.

Edited May 10, 2016 by YOT

[JonWienke 131]

Sights make a huge difference if you ever shoot slugs. And they make it much easier to actually center a shot pattern on the target.

[JDeko 792]

Co-witnessing for a shotgun?

 

It's a shotgun. It doesn't even need sights.

 

ETA: I like your shotgun, you did a good job with it. I'm not a fan of the sight on it, but it's yours, so have fun with it.

 

my shitty  35 dollar tacfire red dot cowitnesses with my 433s iron sights quite easily. 

[YOT 3,743]

Sights make a huge difference if you ever shoot slugs...

 

You should tell that to the umpteen deer I killed with a single shot, brass bead sighted, 12ga. when I was a kid. I didn't have a rifle, other than a .22LR, until I was 26 years old. 

[Heartbreaker 1,085]

 

 

 

 

 

Sights make a huge difference if you ever shoot slugs...

 

You should tell that to the umpteen deer I killed with a single shot, brass bead sighted, 12ga. when I was a kid. I didn't have a rifle, other than a .22LR, until I was 26 years old.

Brass bead is still a sight. Edited May 11, 2016 by Heartbreaker

[YOT 3,743]

 

 

 

 

 

Sights make a huge difference if you ever shoot slugs...

You should tell that to the umpteen deer I killed with a single shot, brass bead sighted, 12ga. when I was a kid. I didn't have a rifle, other than a .22LR, until I was 26 years old.

Brass bead is still a sight.

 

 

 

I co-witnessed it with my eye. 

[gunfun 3,931]

IMO sights help and never hurt. Good sights are in line with your eye and probably give you a better sense of the spread of your pattern. If you have a good choke, your buckshot pattern at range is pretty tight too, and the sights are still a help.

 

It's a cyclical reasoning problem with shotguns. 1) Shotguns suck because they are clumsy to feed have bad triggers and bad sights and are innacurate. 2) I manage to get the job done with them anyway, but prefer a rifle because they have good sights, are easy to feed, have good triggers and are accurate. 3) It isn't worth improving any of those individual problems because shotguns suck (i.e. not worth improving the sights because the ammo is innacurate/ not worth improving the ammo, because they don't have sights anyway)  --->Go back to step 1. Repeat ad nauseum.

 

IMO more better is better. Eliminate needless handicaps. Lack of sights is a handicap with slugs and buckshot if you have a choke. They do no harm to wingshooting. Why not have them other than tradition?

[Mullet Man 2,114]

Heartbreaker, on 10 May 2016 - 12:13 PM, said:

It's actually fairly easy to shoulder. The rear of the sight is 4 inches from my face so its not a huge deal. It also gives a much more natural cheekweld without a riser. Plus it cowitnesses the factory sights. How many AK optic mounts do that? I may get a more compact sight in the future..

 

Depends on the optic and mount.

 

You must have one helluva LoP!

[Heartbreaker 1,085]

 

Heartbreaker, on 10 May 2016 - 12:13 PM, said:

 

It's actually fairly easy to shoulder. The rear of the sight is 4 inches from my face so its not a huge deal. It also gives a much more natural cheekweld without a riser. Plus it cowitnesses the factory sights. How many AK optic mounts do that? I may get a more compact sight in the future..

 

 

Depends on the optic and mount.

 

You must have one helluva LoP!

I'm 6' 6" and my preferred LOP is 15".

[Mullet Man 2,114]

As soon as you said 4" from your face, I knew you were a tall fucker.