saltydecimator 482 Posted June 10, 2016 Report Share Posted June 10, 2016 (edited) Lowers are manufactured here, as I understand it. You might call them and see if they will sell them ala carte. hmmmmm im about to!!! talking to them now, wont sell just the upper... however, he said its basically a dpms lower, with a few mods, so could buy the whole gun (this is me, not his words/ideas) sell the other lower, get a virgin lower and build up a "firearm".....with a rifle buffer and a 10" barrel probably!!! TIIIIIITS! Edited June 10, 2016 by saltydecimator Quote Link to post Share on other sites
crazynaclh20 0 Posted June 10, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 10, 2016 That is not a typical gas tube. These are not gas impingement. They are piston driven. I have the Adams Arms piston AR and its very smooth not to mention way cleaner as you dont get the spent gas discharge in the BCG area. That being said I will need to determine if the fore grip needs to me changed for something a bit more solid where the gas is vented. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
toothandnail 275 Posted June 10, 2016 Report Share Posted June 10, 2016 The ones we checked don't mate with a DPMS lower, close but not quite. Have more arriving later today will check a few more, but I doubt any difference. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Vance665 225 Posted June 10, 2016 Report Share Posted June 10, 2016 Lowers are manufactured here, as I understand it. You might call them and see if they will sell them ala carte. hmmmmm im about to!!! talking to them now, wont sell just the upper... however, he said its basically a dpms lower, with a few mods, so could buy the whole gun (this is me, not his words/ideas) sell the other lower, get a virgin lower and build up a "firearm".....with a rifle buffer and a 10" barrel probably!!! TIIIIIITS! Thats awesome! You mean a pistol buffer though, right? I have a stripped PSA-10 lower. I wonder if I can make that work... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
evlblkwpnz 3,418 Posted June 11, 2016 Report Share Posted June 11, 2016 Be careful with what you do in regards to the receiver extension. It could end very badly. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Vance665 225 Posted June 11, 2016 Report Share Posted June 11, 2016 So it must be a proprietary reciever extension then? I really don't know anything about this platform yet but I want to learn. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
evlblkwpnz 3,418 Posted June 11, 2016 Report Share Posted June 11, 2016 So it must be a proprietary reciever extension then? I really don't know anything about this platform yet but I want to learn. No. It has a regular collapsible AR15 extension. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
toothandnail 275 Posted June 11, 2016 Report Share Posted June 11, 2016 (edited) So it must be a proprietary reciever extension then? I really don't know anything about this platform yet but I want to learn. No. It has a regular collapsible AR15 extension. The first 2 we got, a regular AR buffer tube would not work, it was too tight to thread in. Haven't checked the latest ones. Edited June 11, 2016 by toothandnail Quote Link to post Share on other sites
crazynaclh20 0 Posted June 12, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 12, 2016 We just got the XTR-12 #189. From what I'm told it is very well built. There are a couple draw backs. The charging handle and the non captured piston rod. The charging handle can be easily changed as the hook latches can be changed out or eliminate one side. I did see a Phase 5 bolt catch/ release lever that says it fits a AR10. The mag that comes with the unit is pretty impressive after dealing with the Saiga one for so long. We hope to get it to the range and get some rounds through it in all sort of rate of fire. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FOG50 12 Posted June 12, 2016 Report Share Posted June 12, 2016 Does anyone know if the Lower is the firearm, or the Upper, like the MKA1919? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
evlblkwpnz 3,418 Posted June 13, 2016 Report Share Posted June 13, 2016 Yes, lower is the firearm. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
evlblkwpnz 3,418 Posted June 13, 2016 Report Share Posted June 13, 2016 We just got the XTR-12 #189. From what I'm told it is very well built. There are a couple draw backs. The charging handle and the non captured piston rod. The charging handle can be easily changed as the hook latches can be changed out or eliminate one side. I did see a Phase 5 bolt catch/ release lever that says it fits a AR10. The mag that comes with the unit is pretty impressive after dealing with the Saiga one for so long. We hope to get it to the range and get some rounds through it in all sort of rate of fire. The op rod jingles around quite loudly so you know you are empty. Think of it as the dinner bell. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
saltydecimator 482 Posted June 15, 2016 Report Share Posted June 15, 2016 Lowers are manufactured here, as I understand it. You might call them and see if they will sell them ala carte.hmmmmm im about to!!! talking to them now, wont sell just the upper... however, he said its basically a dpms lower, with a few mods, so could buy the whole gun (this is me, not his words/ideas) sell the other lower, get a virgin lower and build up a "firearm".....with a rifle buffer and a 10" barrel probably!!! TIIIIIITS! Thats awesome! You mean a pistol buffer though, right? I have a stripped PSA-10 lower. I wonder if I can make that work... no rifle as its longer and therefore can have a shorter barrel.... but itsounds like some parts are different? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
saltydecimator 482 Posted September 10, 2016 Report Share Posted September 10, 2016 No progress on this? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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