XD45 7,124 Posted August 14, 2016 Report Share Posted August 14, 2016 (edited) I've got a better idea. Just put a few pounds of tannerite on your shooting bench and then put the muzzle of your rifle right against the tannerite and shoot it. That will sure teach them to wear hearing protection! Am I right??? Fucking assholes who don't wear hearing protection deserve whatever they get!!!! You'll wanna bring a dump truck to carry off the shattered benches...a meat wagon wouldn't hurt either. Small price to pay to show those assholes without hearing protection how you really feel! Not sure how much of that is sarcasm, I'm not sure how much more sarcasm I could have put in that post but if it wasn't enough then I'll try to do better next time. Edited August 14, 2016 by Darth Saigus Quote Link to post Share on other sites
patriot 7,197 Posted September 3, 2016 Report Share Posted September 3, 2016 The single port brake I added to my Ar carbine works great! Little to no muzzle rise, and L O U D ! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JDeko 792 Posted September 4, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 4, 2016 The single port brake I added to my Ar carbine works great! Little to no muzzle rise, and L O U D ! Seeing the Echo Trigger pack has me thinking about AR-Trash seriously for the first time in my life. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
patriot 7,197 Posted September 4, 2016 Report Share Posted September 4, 2016 You go right ahead with that double tap trigger pack. It's an accidental discharge waiting to happen. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Vance665 225 Posted September 4, 2016 Report Share Posted September 4, 2016 (edited) Supposedly the echo trigger is being developed for other guns too. I'm probably getting one. Not sure how its prone to accidental discharge though, if you've useing proper gun safety.. . And you're not a complete dumbass. Edited September 4, 2016 by Vance665 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
patriot 7,197 Posted September 4, 2016 Report Share Posted September 4, 2016 Supposedly the echo trigger is being developed for other guns too. I'm probably getting one. Not sure how its prone to accidental discharge though, if you've useing proper gun safety.. . And you're not a complete dumbass. Pull the trigger, then what? You HAVE to release, then another shot fires. Really BAD fuckin' idea. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
YOT 3,743 Posted September 4, 2016 Report Share Posted September 4, 2016 Supposedly the echo trigger is being developed for other guns too. I'm probably getting one. Not sure how its prone to accidental discharge though, if you've useing proper gun safety.. . And you're not a complete dumbass. If you can't see the danger of having a second shot rip on the reset, you're already "a complete dumbass". Let's just imagine for a split second that you don't need or want that second shot, but here you are with your finger holding the trigger back. "CEASE FIRE!" comes to mind. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Vance665 225 Posted September 4, 2016 Report Share Posted September 4, 2016 Supposedly the echo trigger is being developed for other guns too. I'm probably getting one. Not sure how its prone to accidental discharge though, if you've useing proper gun safety.. . And you're not a complete dumbass. If you can't see the danger of having a second shot rip on the reset, you're already "a complete dumbass". Let's just imagine for a split second that you don't need or want that second shot, but here you are with your finger holding the trigger back. "CEASE FIRE!" comes to mind. Then you flip the switch to semi and let out the trigger. Not a hard concept to grasp. Supposedly the echo trigger is being developed for other guns too. I'm probably getting one. Not sure how its prone to accidental discharge though, if you've useing proper gun safety.. . And you're not a complete dumbass. Pull the trigger, then what? You HAVE to release, then another shot fires.Really BAD fuckin' idea. Echo gen2 solved this. See above post. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JDeko 792 Posted September 5, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 5, 2016 Admittedly I'd have to learn my PTR much better before I'd feel safe with one if the made an HKG3 one. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChileRelleno 7,071 Posted September 5, 2016 Report Share Posted September 5, 2016 The Echo Trigger is designed with safety being the utmost priority. When the shooter is in the Echo Mode and depresses the trigger one round is fired, if the target moves, the shooter can move the selector to the safe position and a second round will not fire upon release. I still see a huge potential for negligent discharge due to operator error, and I don't think anyone would even have to be a complete dumbass to have one. Just a brainfart and oopsie! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JDeko 792 Posted September 5, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 5, 2016 Would it even be possible to make something like the Echo system for an AK? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Vance665 225 Posted September 5, 2016 Report Share Posted September 5, 2016 Would it even be possible to make something like the Echo system for an AK? Anything is possible. I definitely want one for my mini Draco. Just look at the echo triggers like two round burst. If you want to make slow precise shots, use semi. If you want quick double taps or you just want to waste a bunch of ammo quickly use echo. You don't have to shoot on echo mode but its there if you want it. I don't have one and might never get one based on the price. I want one and believe there is nothing inherently unsafe about them. Like any firearm proper training and respect is required. Not being a complete dumbass helps too. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
patriot 7,197 Posted September 5, 2016 Report Share Posted September 5, 2016 (edited) ...and it's $479. Mr Barnum was right. Edited September 5, 2016 by patriot 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HB of CJ 1,263 Posted September 5, 2016 Report Share Posted September 5, 2016 Just silly old me 'hear', (pun intended) but why would anybody want a louder gun? We are going the other way with more tax stamps for cans. My hearing is shot. Continuous ear ringing. Too many high power matches way back in the day. Now trying to teach and impress to the young kids the need to save their hearing. I did not. Perhaps they 'can'. Thus the suppressors. All Oregon, US Code Laws And NFA Rules Apply. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
YOT 3,743 Posted September 6, 2016 Report Share Posted September 6, 2016 (edited) I never liked loudassed pipes on a bike, either. To each their own. Edited September 6, 2016 by YOT 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JDeko 792 Posted September 6, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 6, 2016 ...and it's $479. Mr Barnum was right. I thought they were 400? Still a shit-ton but more feasible. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Capt Nemo 882 Posted September 6, 2016 Report Share Posted September 6, 2016 Supposedly the echo trigger is being developed for other guns too. I'm probably getting one. Not sure how its prone to accidental discharge though, if you've useing proper gun safety.. . And you're not a complete dumbass. If you can't see the danger of having a second shot rip on the reset, you're already "a complete dumbass". Let's just imagine for a split second that you don't need or want that second shot, but here you are with your finger holding the trigger back. "CEASE FIRE!" comes to mind. I can see that getting classified a machine gun really soon. That's 2 shots per trigger pull, it's selectable, and not a doubling type malfunction. If that's legal, so is 3 rnd burst. Burst isn't, so neither is the Echo. You're paying $400 to go to prison if caught with that thing! I wouldn't doubt that it's a ATF sting operation to ensnare a bunch of dumbasses. Buy one and they got your name and address, to bust you at their leisure. Another good way to cut down on, and defame gun owners. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
6500rpm 670 Posted September 6, 2016 Report Share Posted September 6, 2016 Plenty of muzzle brakes on the market to crank up the volume if that's your goal, and while not completely the same as the double trigger, they've had release triggers for skeet guns for years. Back in the 80's, the name escapes me, but there was a company that made a pivot device for the 68 Automag paintball gun that doubled and I have to say it really cranked up the fire rate. Then again it's not a firearm and had no provision for cancelling the second shot once you pull the trigger, I can see the Echo device having a limited market and probably close to zero usefulness at a public range. Plenty of stupid loud guns on the market if that's your goal, and while not a pistol, the .303 Enfield Jungle Carbine served that purpose very well (poor bastards). 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Heartbreaker 1,085 Posted September 6, 2016 Report Share Posted September 6, 2016 Supposedly the echo trigger is being developed for other guns too. I'm probably getting one. Not sure how its prone to accidental discharge though, if you've useing proper gun safety.. . And you're not a complete dumbass. If you can't see the danger of having a second shot rip on the reset, you're already "a complete dumbass". Let's just imagine for a split second that you don't need or want that second shot, but here you are with your finger holding the trigger back. "CEASE FIRE!" comes to mind. I can see that getting classified a machine gun really soon. That's 2 shots per trigger pull, it's selectable, and not a doubling type malfunction. If that's legal, so is 3 rnd burst. Burst isn't, so neither is the Echo. You're paying $400 to go to prison if caught with that thing! I wouldn't doubt that it's a ATF sting operation to ensnare a bunch of dumbasses. Buy one and they got your name and address, to bust you at their leisure. Another good way to cut down on, and defame gun owners.It's 100% legal with current ATF rules. It fires 1 bullet per operation of the trigger, one for the pull and one for the release. 3 round burst fires 3 rounds with one pull, thus machine gun. That isn't to say that the ATF won't try to class it as a machine gun eventually, but for now it's a loophole that people have taken advantage of. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Vance665 225 Posted September 6, 2016 Report Share Posted September 6, 2016 Don't like Echo triggers? Don't think they will be legal for long? Scared of the ATF? Too expensive? I have the solution for you! Don't buy one. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SuRrEaLNJ 182 Posted September 6, 2016 Report Share Posted September 6, 2016 i have a gp100 that i pretty much only shoot 357 out of, that turns some heads. the t53 is always good for getting everyone to poke their heads out of the ports 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
james lambert 3,059 Posted September 6, 2016 Report Share Posted September 6, 2016 Instead of that wanabe auto crap..that doesn't work correctly, is barely legal and usually dangerous....if you want a full auto, go buy one 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JDeko 792 Posted September 7, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 7, 2016 The Echo works well though, at least from MAC's video about it. The previous 2-for-1 trigger would let you pull the trigger before the hammer was ready and leave you needing to charge the weapon again. Echo seems not to do that. I want something that is functional, yet stylish, and somewhat affordable. My Saiga and PTR do those things well, and even my Tokarev if I describe it. Last month someone had a sawn-off 12ga that when he fired it was like a lightning strike or a flash-bang, that I'd not like.Shot the S&W Governor again today with .45LC and that caliber really is like a calmer .357mag. Functionally a Redhawk in .45 Colt does seem like it would serve a purpose but honestly if that caliber is boring out of a short barrel it'd be even more so out of a long one. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JoeAK 337 Posted September 7, 2016 Report Share Posted September 7, 2016 Plenty of stupid loud guns on the market if that's your goal, and while not a pistol, the .303 Enfield Jungle Carbine served that purpose very well (poor bastards). Longbranch No. 1 Mk. 4. Shortened...alot, with an up-scaled AMD-65 style brake on it. Someone else sporterized it before I did my work, part of me wishes they hadn't, the other part is glad they did, very fun little gun. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
patriot 7,197 Posted September 7, 2016 Report Share Posted September 7, 2016 Loud I like. Quiet I like. Depends on when/where/why. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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