Ronin38 2,117 Posted August 8, 2016 Report Share Posted August 8, 2016 "Noise" discussions always remind me of the shootouts from the movie HEAT with Val Kilmer and Robert DeNiro. You'd hear the "bang, bang, bang" of the AR's, then the "BOOM, BOOM, BOOM" of the HK .308 that Kilmer used. My AR pistol came with what I'd call a "flash enhancer" and made truly impressive fireballs at the range. Almost unusable at an indoor range due to the noise and flames. I bought a Claymore brake for it which was a big improvement! Now the flames and noise go more downrange, instead of sideways. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
YOT 3,743 Posted August 8, 2016 Report Share Posted August 8, 2016 ...I bought a Claymore brake for it which was a big improvement! Now the flames and noise go more downrange, instead of sideways. I really like the Levang Linear comp on my AR for the same reason. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Eric Pate 478 Posted August 8, 2016 Report Share Posted August 8, 2016 The 7.5" Kitty Kat is definitely the loudest firearm I own, more so than the 8" 12 gauge or even the 30" .50BMG (yes, really). It really does clear the bench at public ranges and, as mentioned, you feel it in your sinuses. Minor hearing damage is assured, even with plugs and muffs. I don't know if anyone is "impressed" by its loudness. Annoyed, maybe. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tundra1 391 Posted August 8, 2016 Report Share Posted August 8, 2016 Loud is only impressive on Independence Day. Wouldn't be safe to assume that most people at the range are wearing ear protection anyhow? The people that show up to public ranges to impress crack me up. I'm there to shoot and have my own fun. Could care less what or how loud the next guys gun is. I can appreciate a good loud M80, however. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gzus Kryst 53 Posted August 8, 2016 Report Share Posted August 8, 2016 I think the ak pistol has more of a boom and the ar pistol has more of a crack both are stupid loud. and I say stupid loud as the is no need for it lol if I could suppress all my guns I would. but if you really must make a bang I might suggest http://www.firequest.com/G12-037.html for your shotgun good times especially if wait till dusk starts to settle in 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
patriot 7,197 Posted August 8, 2016 Report Share Posted August 8, 2016 I think the ak pistol has more of a boom and the ar pistol has more of a crack both are stupid loud. and I say stupid loud as the is no need for it lol if I could suppress all my guns I would. but if you really must make a bang I might suggest http://www.firequest.com/G12-037.html for your shotgun good times especially if wait till dusk starts to settle in I make something very much like this for our night shoots. The concussion feels like you got punched in the chest. Think grain silo explosion. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JDeko 792 Posted August 9, 2016 Author Report Share Posted August 9, 2016 Loudness isn't the sole criteria I'm going on, but it is something I consider as I do enjoy turning heads at the range. Truth be told no one gives a flying fuck about my Tokarev but I still shoot it x2 to x4 as much as my long guns because I feel like I need to practice with it more as I have a harder time being dead accurate with it than a long gun and that its just fun to shoot. I'd like if people fawned over it like my Saiga but I'm not going to ditch it for that reason. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sim_Player 1,939 Posted August 9, 2016 Report Share Posted August 9, 2016 (edited) Once, I took my SKS, with a 75rnd drum, to an indoor range. It turned a lot of heads! 75 seconds of 7.62x39 bang! 30 seconds would have been more fun! Edited August 9, 2016 by Sim_Player 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JDeko 792 Posted August 9, 2016 Author Report Share Posted August 9, 2016 Yeah, if I wanted to pay as much as I did for my M57 I'd get a drum for my PTR and do a 50 round mag dump at least once. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
YOT 3,743 Posted August 9, 2016 Report Share Posted August 9, 2016 Once, I took my SKS, with a 75rnd drum, to an indoor range. It turned a lot of heads! 75 seconds of 7.62x39 bang! 30 seconds would have been more fun! You can't work your finger faster than once a second? Is it broken?? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
XD45 7,124 Posted August 9, 2016 Report Share Posted August 9, 2016 I keep my sbrs over 10" and use blast reducing muzzle devices. I don't need to annoy other people (or myself) with muzzle blast. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
G O B 3,516 Posted August 9, 2016 Report Share Posted August 9, 2016 They make those flash bangs in .410, that would be an awesome first round in a judge. Whatever I may be facing, I would rather it be blinded and deafened. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gunfun 3,931 Posted August 10, 2016 Report Share Posted August 10, 2016 .45 Colt has marginally the same ballistics as the .45 ACP, but it can be up-loaded for more especially out of a longer barrel. That would definitely create more report than standard loads and more muzzle flash, too. It won't be loud like a rifle caliber out of a short barrel. This is caused by rate of powder burn and barrel length and a bunch of other factors. Shooting .45 Colt out of a long barrel is relatively quiet and has a soft recoil, too. Not if it is full power loading. Most of the current offerings are downloaded a lot from historical ballistics. Why would anyone want a revolver chambered in .30 carbine? I'm failing to see the appeal. two reasons. 1 you are an old guy who uses a M1 a lot as a ranch gun and you want a companion pistol. Hint, it's old guys who buy blackhawks anyway. 2, it's a slim cartridge so like .327 federal, you could get one more shot in the same size of cylinder than you would for a ~9mm cartridge. light recoil for a pest control game getter type round. 3rd reason. 30 carbine ammo used to be plentiful cheap surplus, so older versions were cool for tightwads who wanted to shoot a lot. Now that doesn't apply, but the ' I always kinda wanted one of those, like my uncle Jake had' effect kicks in. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
patriot 7,197 Posted August 10, 2016 Report Share Posted August 10, 2016 .45 Colt has marginally the same ballistics as the .45 ACP, but it can be up-loaded for more especially out of a longer barrel. That would definitely create more report than standard loads and more muzzle flash, too. It won't be loud like a rifle caliber out of a short barrel. This is caused by rate of powder burn and barrel length and a bunch of other factors. Shooting .45 Colt out of a long barrel is relatively quiet and has a soft recoil, too. Not if it is full power loading. Most of the current offerings are downloaded a lot from historical ballistics. Why would anyone want a revolver chambered in .30 carbine? I'm failing to see the appeal. two reasons. 1 you are an old guy who uses a M1 a lot as a ranch gun and you want a companion pistol. Hint, it's old guys who buy blackhawks anyway. 2, it's a slim cartridge so like .327 federal, you could get one more shot in the same size of cylinder than you would for a ~9mm cartridge. light recoil for a pest control game getter type round. 3rd reason. 30 carbine ammo used to be plentiful cheap surplus, so older versions were cool for tightwads who wanted to shoot a lot. Now that doesn't apply, but the ' I always kinda wanted one of those, like my uncle Jake had' effect kicks in. I love my AutoMag III. Not much recoil, very accurate, and makes an "earth-shattering KABOOM!" when fired. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Machinist 150 Posted August 10, 2016 Report Share Posted August 10, 2016 .45 Colt has marginally the same ballistics as the .45 ACP, but it can be up-loaded for more especially out of a longer barrel. That would definitely create more report than standard loads and more muzzle flash, too. It won't be loud like a rifle caliber out of a short barrel. This is caused by rate of powder burn and barrel length and a bunch of other factors. Shooting .45 Colt out of a long barrel is relatively quiet and has a soft recoil, too. Not if it is full power loading. Most of the current offerings are downloaded a lot from historical ballistics. Why would anyone want a revolver chambered in .30 carbine? I'm failing to see the appeal. two reasons. 1 you are an old guy who uses a M1 a lot as a ranch gun and you want a companion pistol. Hint, it's old guys who buy blackhawks anyway. 2, it's a slim cartridge so like .327 federal, you could get one more shot in the same size of cylinder than you would for a ~9mm cartridge. light recoil for a pest control game getter type round. 3rd reason. 30 carbine ammo used to be plentiful cheap surplus, so older versions were cool for tightwads who wanted to shoot a lot. Now that doesn't apply, but the ' I always kinda wanted one of those, like my uncle Jake had' effect kicks in. I love my AutoMag III. Not much recoil, very accurate, and makes an "earth-shattering KABOOM!" when fired. AutoMag 44, makes me think of the good old days! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JDeko 792 Posted August 11, 2016 Author Report Share Posted August 11, 2016 Would .45 Colt be a little less quiet out of something like a Public Defender or Governor? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
XD45 7,124 Posted August 11, 2016 Report Share Posted August 11, 2016 This has nothing to do with loudness but on the topic of 30 carbine... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sim_Player 1,939 Posted August 11, 2016 Report Share Posted August 11, 2016 (edited) Would .45 Colt be a little less quiet out of something like a Public Defender or Governor?I think you are over-analyzing. Most short barreled pistols are loud as hell. Wanna get louder? Step up the caliber. A good muzzle-brake can tame it and make it louder. If you can find one for that particular gun. Edited August 11, 2016 by Sim_Player 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JDeko 792 Posted August 11, 2016 Author Report Share Posted August 11, 2016 Would .45 Colt be a little less quiet out of something like a Public Defender or Governor?I think you are over-analyzing. Most short barreled pistols are loud as hell. Wanna get louder? Step up the caliber. A good muzzle-brake can tame it and make it louder. If you can find one for that particular gun. you're not wrong, over-analyzing is probably my default setting. I don't like surprises and/or unknown factors which of course I can never avoid. So as time goes on I gather more and more things I'd like to know before deciding on what to aim towards. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sim_Player 1,939 Posted August 11, 2016 Report Share Posted August 11, 2016 Would .45 Colt be a little less quiet out of something like a Public Defender or Governor?I think you are over-analyzing. Most short barreled pistols are loud as hell. Wanna get louder? Step up the caliber. A good muzzle-brake can tame it and make it louder. If you can find one for that particular gun. you're not wrong, over-analyzing is probably my default setting. I don't like surprises and/or unknown factors which of course I can never avoid. So as time goes on I gather more and more things I'd like to know before deciding on what to aim towards. I tend to do the same. No worries. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mixednuttz 123 Posted August 11, 2016 Report Share Posted August 11, 2016 Two thoughts. 1:Why not find somewhere that rents guns and try out your potential purchase for loudness? 2:I just don't get why you want the boom and muzzle flash. I bought suppressors specifically to eliminate the "earth shattering boom". 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JDeko 792 Posted August 11, 2016 Author Report Share Posted August 11, 2016 Two thoughts. 1:Why not find somewhere that rents guns and try out your potential purchase for loudness? 2:I just don't get why you want the boom and muzzle flash. I bought suppressors specifically to eliminate the "earth shattering boom". 1. Of the two major gun rental places I've been to by my house the oddest rental is a Coonan .357 1911. My regular range used to have a Ruger Alaskan, .50 ae Deagle, .500mag, and .460mag but they got tired of people shooting out the fluorescent lights and shooting the arms off the target carriers. I might have to test my Google Fu to find a rental place with odder guns to shoot. I do plan to try .45 Colt out of a Governor tuesday and see what that is like. 2. I guess the same way people drill holes in the mufflers of their Mustangs? Since the vast majority of my time shooting is at an indoor range that markets itself heavily to newbies it really does devolve into [to paraphrase Lehm from the series Jormungand] a farting contest where if something rises about the steady drum of AR15s, 9mm Glocks, and .38 Specials everyone turns and looks with childlike wonder. As this is where I was "raised" as a shooter I'm drawn to things with a loud, room-quieting crack. Admittedly, as someone who's jumped the gun and shot my Saiga at geese before putting my hearing protection in, I can understand the appeal of a suppressed gun for home defense but that aside any firearm is going to blow my ears out if I have to shoot up my basement stairs through a narrow hallway so I'm not focusing on that. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
frz1197 128 Posted August 11, 2016 Report Share Posted August 11, 2016 Shit if you want an insanely loud head turner, get a ptr-915 or pdw or whatever they are called now. It's a 9" .308. Imagine a draco of hk-91s. Loud as shit, spits fire, and kind of fun to shoot. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JDeko 792 Posted August 11, 2016 Author Report Share Posted August 11, 2016 Shit if you want an insanely loud head turner, get a ptr-915 or pdw or whatever they are called now. It's a 9" .308. Imagine a draco of hk-91s. Loud as shit, spits fire, and kind of fun to shoot. I can imagine, seeing as my 18in PTR91 already turns a lot of heads when I shoot [not as many as a .270 or 300win mag though]. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
patriot 7,197 Posted August 12, 2016 Report Share Posted August 12, 2016 http://www.armslist.com/posts/3000629/austin-texas-handguns-for-sale--ptr-pdw--308----aka-hk51 \ 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
patriot 7,197 Posted August 13, 2016 Report Share Posted August 13, 2016 Stick a nice single port muzzle brake on it and you'll probably smash all the overhead lights on the range! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JoeAK 337 Posted August 13, 2016 Report Share Posted August 13, 2016 I was thinking the same thing, modify the prints on the .308 loudener to have the HK thread pattern instead. (15x1mm if I remember right). Eventually I'd like to make a single shot, contender style pistol in 7.62x39 with 6" barrel and a loudener. I shoot at public range where there are quite a few people that think they don't need hearing protection, I'd like to show them otherwise. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
XD45 7,124 Posted August 13, 2016 Report Share Posted August 13, 2016 I've got a better idea. Just put a few pounds of tannerite on your shooting bench and then put the muzzle of your rifle right against the tannerite and shoot it. That will sure teach them to wear hearing protection! Am I right??? Fucking assholes who don't wear hearing protection deserve whatever they get!!!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JoeAK 337 Posted August 14, 2016 Report Share Posted August 14, 2016 Not sure how much of that is sarcasm, but, yeah, pretty much. Go to a range (known for being loud) with no hearing protection, then turn it down when offered, have fun being deaf. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
patriot 7,197 Posted August 14, 2016 Report Share Posted August 14, 2016 I've got a better idea. Just put a few pounds of tannerite on your shooting bench and then put the muzzle of your rifle right against the tannerite and shoot it. That will sure teach them to wear hearing protection! Am I right??? Fucking assholes who don't wear hearing protection deserve whatever they get!!!! You'll wanna bring a dump truck to carry off the shattered benches. ..a meat wagon wouldn't hurt either. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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