scstrain 8 Posted September 17, 2016 Report Share Posted September 17, 2016 The magazine latch pin on my Saiga 12 wants to work its way out upon firing. I have my gun installed in a Kushnapup stock and hope I do not have to take it apart to fix this. Any suggestions ? They would be appreciated. Also, I do not know how to stake a pin. If this is what I need to do, please explain how to do it. Thanks. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
YOT 3,743 Posted September 17, 2016 Report Share Posted September 17, 2016 (edited) A simple, well placed, easy, ding with the corner of a cold chisel on the rim of the pin hole should do it (inward, toward the center of the hole). Edited September 17, 2016 by YOT 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scstrain 8 Posted September 17, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 17, 2016 (edited) Thanks. You say a cold chisel, is that a wedge shaped punch? I thought chisels were used for wood? The pin will move out towards either side, should I put a ding on both sides? Edited September 17, 2016 by scstrain Quote Link to post Share on other sites
YOT 3,743 Posted September 17, 2016 Report Share Posted September 17, 2016 (edited) https://www.walmart.com/ip/Chisel-Cold-1-4/131175240?wmlspartner=wlpa&selectedSellerId=1380&adid=22222222227044285915&wl0=&wl1=g&wl2=c&wl3=108189856637&wl4=pla-302545941437&wl5=9004999&wl6=&wl7=&wl8=&wl9=pla&wl10=112562722&wl11=online&wl12=131175240&wl13=&veh=sem Yes, much like a punch. Cold chisels are meant for cutting metal. There are other ways to do this, too, i.e. a longer pin peened on each end. You could just use a punch, but that will likely make a larger staked area that would need to be dealt with if you ever had to remove the pin. It won't take a lot to hold it there. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chisel#Cold_chisel Edited September 17, 2016 by YOT Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scstrain 8 Posted September 18, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 18, 2016 Thanks. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HB of CJ 1,263 Posted September 18, 2016 Report Share Posted September 18, 2016 (edited) Looks like about a .183 size pin or so? Help please. Do not have my metric gage thing handy. If all else fails perhaps you can just steal and sacrifice a slightly large drill bit and cut off the shank? This would be just a slightly larger diameter. A firm tap in. Or ... if you have a handy supply of various sized roll pins, that would work fine also. An easy fun fix. Very Russian! Edited September 18, 2016 by HB of CJ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
YOT 3,743 Posted September 18, 2016 Report Share Posted September 18, 2016 Looks like about a .183 size pin or so? Help please. Do not have my metric gage thing handy. If all else fails perhaps you can just steal and sacrifice a slightly large drill bit and cut off the shank? This would be just a slightly larger diameter. A firm tap in. Or ... if you have a handy supply of various sized roll pins, that would work fine also. An easy fun fix. Very Russian! If you use a roll pin the hole in the latch lever may have to be enlarged slightly to allow free movement. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HB of CJ 1,263 Posted September 18, 2016 Report Share Posted September 18, 2016 Yep .... goes without saying. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
G O B 3,516 Posted September 19, 2016 Report Share Posted September 19, 2016 Use a nail, 6D box looks about right. Use the nail to drive out the pin, leaving the nail in. Cut the nail off leaving about as much sticking out on the point side as the diameter of the nail. Peen slightly - NOT enough to bind the latch, just enough to keep it in place. Peen with a small ball peen hammer, and do not get too aggressive . 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HB of CJ 1,263 Posted September 19, 2016 Report Share Posted September 19, 2016 Verrry Russish! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
evlblkwpnz 3,418 Posted September 21, 2016 Report Share Posted September 21, 2016 I remove them, chamfer the ends, and then stake both sides twice on each side of the pin with a punch. They stay. Supporting the mag catch lug while staking is very important. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jdgemax 0 Posted September 23, 2016 Report Share Posted September 23, 2016 (edited) I found a copper colored metal screw (if not copper it was a soft malleable metal of some type) and screwed it into place. The threads on the screw were crushed somewhat but the new copper "pin" is definitly staying in until I need it to come out - which may be never. That was in a Saiga I modified from a sporter, not the Izmash converted 109A I later got. Edited September 23, 2016 by Jdgemax Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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