Loose magazine latch pin, need help

[scstrain 8]

The magazine latch pin on my Saiga 12 wants to work its way out upon firing.  I have my gun installed in a Kushnapup stock and hope I do not have to take it apart to fix this.  Any suggestions ? They would be appreciated.  Also, I do not know how to stake a pin. If this is what I need to do, please explain how to do it. 

 

Thanks.

 

 

[YOT 3,743]

A simple, well placed, easy, ding with the corner of a cold chisel on the rim of the pin hole should do it (inward, toward the center of the hole).

Edited September 17, 2016 by YOT

[scstrain 8]

Thanks.  You say a cold chisel, is that a wedge shaped punch?  I thought chisels were used for wood? The pin will move out towards either side, should I put a ding on both sides?  

Edited September 17, 2016 by scstrain

[YOT 3,743]

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Yes, much like a punch. Cold chisels are meant for cutting metal. There are other ways to do this, too, i.e. a longer pin peened on each end.  You could just use a punch, but that will likely make a larger staked area that would need to be dealt with if you ever had to remove the pin. It won't take a lot to hold it there. 

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chisel#Cold_chisel

Edited September 17, 2016 by YOT

[scstrain 8]

Thanks.

[HB of CJ 1,263]

Looks like about a .183 size pin or so?  Help please.  Do not have my metric gage thing handy.  If all else fails perhaps you can just steal and sacrifice a slightly large drill bit and cut off the shank?  This would be just a slightly larger diameter.  A firm tap in.  Or ... if you have a handy supply of various sized roll pins, that would work fine also.  An easy fun fix.  Very Russian! 

Edited September 18, 2016 by HB of CJ

[YOT 3,743]

Looks like about a .183 size pin or so?  Help please.  Do not have my metric gage thing handy.  If all else fails perhaps you can just steal and sacrifice a slightly large drill bit and cut off the shank?  This would be just a slightly larger diameter.  A firm tap in.  Or ... if you have a handy supply of various sized roll pins, that would work fine also.  An easy fun fix.  Very Russian! 

 

If you use a roll pin the hole in the latch lever may have to be enlarged slightly to allow free movement.

[HB of CJ 1,263]

Yep .... goes without saying. 

[G O B 3,516]

Use a nail, 6D box looks about right. Use the nail to drive out the pin, leaving the nail in. Cut the nail off leaving about as much sticking out on the point side as the diameter of the nail. Peen slightly - NOT enough to bind the latch, just enough to keep it in place. Peen with a small ball peen hammer, and do not get too aggressive .

[HB of CJ 1,263]

Verrry Russish! 

[evlblkwpnz 3,418]

I remove them, chamfer the ends, and then stake both sides twice on each side of the pin with a punch. They stay. Supporting the mag catch lug while staking is very important.

[Jdgemax 0]

I found a copper colored metal screw (if not copper it was a soft malleable metal of some type) and screwed it into place.  The threads on the screw were crushed somewhat but the new copper "pin" is definitly staying in until I need it to come out - which may be never. 

 

That was in a Saiga I modified from a sporter, not the Izmash converted 109A I later got.

Edited September 23, 2016 by Jdgemax