spicoli 12 Posted January 3, 2017 Report Share Posted January 3, 2017 Recently acquired a LEO 12C for a great price. Great Shotgun but the 22 inch barrel is just too long. I was thinking of chopping/threading to 18" or send to Tromix and SBS to 12" or possibly 8" (12" gives my more handguard to shoot drums). Appreciate all suggestions and opinions. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sdustin 578 Posted January 4, 2017 Report Share Posted January 4, 2017 Send it to me. You could do that. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pedal2alloy 206 Posted January 4, 2017 Report Share Posted January 4, 2017 Recently acquired a LEO 12C for a great price. Great Shotgun but the 22 inch barrel is just too long. 20161228_113802.jpg 20161228_114030.jpg I was thinking of chopping/threading to 18" or send to Tromix and SBS to 12" or possibly 8" (12" gives my more handguard to shoot drums). Appreciate all suggestions and opinions. All good options Quote Link to post Share on other sites
evlblkwpnz 3,418 Posted January 4, 2017 Report Share Posted January 4, 2017 Go 8". You will figure out how to hold it with drums. I always wanted to see one a 12C with "NOT" engraved big above the "FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT ONLY" Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mullet Man 2,114 Posted January 4, 2017 Report Share Posted January 4, 2017 Cut it..... Cut it...... Cut it...... Cut it 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
netpackrat 566 Posted January 5, 2017 Report Share Posted January 5, 2017 I always wanted to see one a 12C with "NOT" engraved big above the "FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT ONLY" Nah. Below it engrave "LOAD AP" or "LOAD SLUGS". Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HB of CJ 1,263 Posted January 5, 2017 Report Share Posted January 5, 2017 Hack saws exist. Blades beckon. Big vices vice big. Fine files file finely, Have done and be done. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HB of CJ 1,263 Posted January 5, 2017 Report Share Posted January 5, 2017 You could swap or sell it to JDeko. It would make a good high altitude AK B29 gun. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sdustin 578 Posted January 7, 2017 Report Share Posted January 7, 2017 I'd buy a remchoke adapter and cut the barrel to be 18" with the choke adapter perm attached. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scoutjoe 273 Posted January 7, 2017 Report Share Posted January 7, 2017 So I'm guess I'm the only one that would rather not see a rarer variant chopped? 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HB of CJ 1,263 Posted January 7, 2017 Report Share Posted January 7, 2017 Trade it off to somebody who wants a goose gun. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
spicoli 12 Posted January 8, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 8, 2017 So I'm guess I'm the only one that would rather not see a rarer variant chopped? Its really the reason I am even asking the question. I hate to permanently change a rare bird but most would agree 22 inches is just ridiculous for a magazine feed shotgun. The advantages of 4 less inches and threading for muzzle devices seems just to practical and aesthetically pleasing to do. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
patriot 7,197 Posted January 8, 2017 Report Share Posted January 8, 2017 (edited) See what you can sell it for. If the money is right, do it and get another one to cut up. Here's a similar 12C on Gunbroker for 2499. http://www.gunbroker.com/item/612133416 Edited January 8, 2017 by patriot 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
netpackrat 566 Posted January 8, 2017 Report Share Posted January 8, 2017 The reason they go for a premium price is not because they are collectible, but because the stock conversion is already done. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
patriot 7,197 Posted January 8, 2017 Report Share Posted January 8, 2017 The reason they go for a premium price is not because they are collectible, but because the stock conversion is already done. I think he's hittin' the crack pipe a bit too much. The stock conversion's easy. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scoutjoe 273 Posted January 9, 2017 Report Share Posted January 9, 2017 So I'm guess I'm the only one that would rather not see a rarer variant chopped? Its really the reason I am even asking the question. I hate to permanently change a rare bird but most would agree 22 inches is just ridiculous for a magazine feed shotgun. The advantages of 4 less inches and threading for muzzle devices seems just to practical and aesthetically pleasing to do. The only reason I chopped my 22" was to thread the barrel. The cutting wasn't hard, or the threading. The next thing I had to do was knock off the gas block and drill another port. It was easier to buy the 19" threaded from Cadiz the 2nd time around. Shame your 12-c didn't come with the marked 8rd mag too. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
evlblkwpnz 3,418 Posted January 9, 2017 Report Share Posted January 9, 2017 The reason they go for a premium price is not because they are collectible, but because the stock conversion is already done. I'd say your assessment is justified though there is some collectible cool factor to a real 12C. It would cost quite a bit to have a shop build an accurate replica of a 12C, over $2k for that and an unmolested donor gun. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
spicoli 12 Posted January 9, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 9, 2017 I was lucky enough to get the Law Enforcement Marked Magazine. Good reminder of the dark days. If I do cut the barrel down to 18" will need to re-drill/add ports? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Vance665 225 Posted January 10, 2017 Report Share Posted January 10, 2017 (edited) I don't think you will run into low gas untill under 12". Edited January 10, 2017 by Vance665 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
evlblkwpnz 3,418 Posted January 10, 2017 Report Share Posted January 10, 2017 I'm not intimately familiar with what port number and size that may have came with (a guess, probably 3 at about 0.070"), but fire it before you do any port work. If it doesn't run, see how many ports there are, measure them, and post that info. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HB of CJ 1,263 Posted January 10, 2017 Report Share Posted January 10, 2017 How about just keeping it the way it is and eventually either shoot or trade? Sometimes cutting stuff gets out of favor. We know an old coot who got a stamp for a SBS Saiga then changed his mind and asked the ATF to remove the SBS stamp. They did. He even got his $200 bucks back. The 8 year old NIB Saiga 12 still resides deep inside one of the gun safes. Who knows? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scoutjoe 273 Posted January 11, 2017 Report Share Posted January 11, 2017 I'm not intimately familiar with what port number and size that may have came with (a guess, probably 3 at about 0.070"), but fire it before you do any port work. If it doesn't run, see how many ports there are, measure them, and post that info. You would have to look in the gas block and check to see what you have. My guess would also be a 3 port gun like evlblkwpnz said. I'm no expert on what runs and what doesn't run at a certain barrel length, I'll leave that to the pros out there who have been doing it for years. I just know that my 22" gun had 3 ports. When I shortened the barrel to remove the internal choke, it wouldn't run on low brass all the time. I went the route to drill a 4th hole, gun runs like it did before. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mullet Man 2,114 Posted January 11, 2017 Report Share Posted January 11, 2017 It's an older gun and a lot of the older 22's had 2 ports. So it's anybody's guess. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
evlblkwpnz 3,418 Posted January 11, 2017 Report Share Posted January 11, 2017 It's an older gun and a lot of the older 22's had 2 ports. So it's anybody's guess. The Russians always keep it interesting Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gunfun 3,930 Posted January 19, 2017 Report Share Posted January 19, 2017 Go 8". You will figure out how to hold it with drums. I always wanted to see one a 12C with "NOT" engraved big above the "FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT ONLY" Nah. That's a badge showing we won. Or you could put a line through "LAW" and put "Constitution" above it. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HB of CJ 1,263 Posted January 20, 2017 Report Share Posted January 20, 2017 Sell or trade it to JDeko Quote Link to post Share on other sites
saltydecimator 482 Posted February 3, 2017 Report Share Posted February 3, 2017 (edited) Too long for what? What kinda price you get? Keep it, range toy it, get another for your SBS indoor work needs Edited February 3, 2017 by saltydecimator Quote Link to post Share on other sites
evlblkwpnz 3,418 Posted February 10, 2017 Report Share Posted February 10, 2017 Too long for what? What kinda price you get? Keep it, range toy it, get another for your SBS indoor work needs Too long for everything Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kmoore 3 Posted June 20, 2017 Report Share Posted June 20, 2017 (edited) hadn't been on this board for years, decided to check on the state of the Saigas.Sorry to resurrect this thread, I had a 12c from a long time back, just after the ban sunsetted. I don't remember the number, but the 12c's came in on a weird exception. at 22 inches, that gun never failed to cycle/shoot. YMMV, and good luck. Edited June 20, 2017 by kmoore Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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