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#31 Mike Rogers

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Posted 21 December 2017 - 12:20 PM

Is it possible to put "standard" handguards on an unconverted front end? I just looked on Ironwood Design's page [happy they're still around] and they show an S12 with AK  style furniture on it and the gas tube sticks way out in front.

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as if you can then that pretty much removes my only reservation.

 

With regard to current KS-12 and Saiga IZ-109 shotguns, some level of customization is necessary to install AK furniture. Dinzag (an S12 forum vendor) manufactures and sells this set up which will work with the KS-12 or Saiga IZ-109: http://www.dinzagarm...a_12/aks12.html


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Posted 21 December 2017 - 12:32 PM

 

Is it possible to put "standard" handguards on an unconverted front end? I just looked on Ironwood Design's page [happy they're still around] and they show an S12 with AK  style furniture on it and the gas tube sticks way out in front.SAIGA_12_SHOTGUN_CONVERTED_STOCKS-5.jpeg
 
as if you can then that pretty much removes my only reservation.

Sorry to burst your bubble, but that's a picture of a Saiga 308. They must've temporarily used that picture because they don't have the Saiga 12 page set up.

 

 

I thought it looked wrong but I never saw an IZ-109 with hand guard off so I didn't know if it had that angled bit connecting the gas tube to the barrel.


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Posted 03 January 2018 - 10:07 PM

Does anyone know when K-USA will be selling their version of the Saiga 12 mags? It would be nice to get some of those.

 

Another question I have for the owner's of this gun are about the mags. Are the mags steel reinforced like the true Russian counterparts, or is it just straight plastic with a metal feed lip clip like the Promags?



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Posted 03 January 2018 - 10:12 PM

I was looking around for some other stuff and stumbled across some 5 round K USA Saiga 12 mags. I think it was at legionusa.com


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Posted 04 January 2018 - 07:35 PM

Thank you for the info. I might take a chance on one of those.



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Posted 02 February 2018 - 08:21 AM

 

At least the mag wasn't wobbling all over the place. I'd rather have to fit. Sounds like a winner.

Agreed. Not so long ago a US made Saiga assembled from top notch materials, with operating parts machined from solid billet was almost too much to hope for.

 

Given the way these are made, a $900 price tag isn't surprising. Hopefully (since the factory already has the capability to create one) we'll see a Version 030 iteration of the gun sometime in the not too distant future.

 

Mike the 030 version is available now in Europe. A Turkish company has done a similar licensing deal, but decided to produce a clone of the 030 version. They are called Armsan, and they are calling it the RS-S1. They are also making 10 round mags that are less than half the cost of the saiga/vepr versions. Time will tell on if they are reliable ! I picked one up yesterday. Not fired it yet but others report favourably. Vepr 12 mags will fit and function with the LRBHO, if they have the Saiga recess cut into the mag lip. Standard Saiga magwell mags will fit but don't obviously work the LRBHO. I would assume that 030 mags will also work and action the LRBHO. First impressions are that the mags will need to be fitted to the gun, as they are quite stiff to insert, and don't drop free. The vepr /saiga mags that belong to a magwell version pre 030 glide in like silk and drop free. The mag release will also need work as you cannot really action it without taking a hand off the gun. All small issues and very easily corrected. I assume that as with the other Turkish guns, Akda, UTAS, Bora etc that these will be readily available over there?


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Posted 02 February 2018 - 08:37 AM

Not yet, at least.


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Posted 02 February 2018 - 11:23 PM

Awwwwwwwwwwwwww Yeah! Spare parts if I need them!


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