netpackrat 566 Posted June 8, 2017 Report Share Posted June 8, 2017 http://www.cc.com/video-playlists/vek0yl/stand-up-jordan-solves-previews/tmcgtz 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pyzik 597 Posted June 8, 2017 Report Share Posted June 8, 2017 Pretty frustrated with that little bit about UBC and 3 day wait times.Dude is a badass and has done some awesome things. Is a great shooter but damn. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
XD45 7,124 Posted June 8, 2017 Report Share Posted June 8, 2017 Another reasonable gun owner. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HB of CJ 1,263 Posted June 8, 2017 Report Share Posted June 8, 2017 Interesting. I liked the rope climb. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pyzik 597 Posted June 9, 2017 Report Share Posted June 9, 2017 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KSgVu3Lnz-UHe's on P&S if anyone is interested in watching. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
evlblkwpnz 3,418 Posted June 9, 2017 Report Share Posted June 9, 2017 Legislation never matters in the mind of a criminal, but these morons can't seem to wrap their heads around the concept. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
VR762Shooter 838 Posted June 9, 2017 Report Share Posted June 9, 2017 I'd almost guarantee that is edited to shit. They love doing that and have done it in almost every example I've seen and being its a "Comedy Central" skit, I have about 0 confidence it isn't completely altered 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
netpackrat 566 Posted June 9, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 9, 2017 (edited) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KSgVu3Lnz-U He's on P&S if anyone is interested in watching. I watched that; about the only thing he gets right is when he says "I could have just shut up." To hell with both of them. Even if Comedy Central edited the video to make it say something totally opposite from what was said, that doesn't explain away the following: Seems to eliminate any question of him having been taken out of context. As much as he'd like to change it now, he said it and he meant it. Edited June 9, 2017 by Netpackrat Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mullet Man 2,114 Posted June 10, 2017 Report Share Posted June 10, 2017 Full retard indeed 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
XD45 7,124 Posted June 10, 2017 Report Share Posted June 10, 2017 Background checks and databases and bans, oh my... Gun owners who are too reasonable can be duped by "reasonable restrictions". That's why I'm an unreasonable gun owner. I will not be reasoned out of my rights and the rights of every law abiding citizen. Fortunately the majority of Americans still support the Second Amendment. But these days the greatest danger is not to the Second Amendment, but to the First Amendment. In just about every western country you can now be thrown in prison for expressing the wrong opinion. But here in America we have the First Amendment, the absolute protection of our right to free speech. Or do we... Even here in America the camel's nose is under the tent. If you say the wrong thing it is labeled "hate speech". It is called discrimination. You can lose your job. You can lose your business. You can be bankrkupted. As that great philosopher Al Sharpton said, "Resist we much!" 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
evlblkwpnz 3,418 Posted June 10, 2017 Report Share Posted June 10, 2017 My problem with all of it is that 100% of law abiding people will be forced to abide by a law that will accomplish little to nothing except creating more work for me to do. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
XD45 7,124 Posted June 10, 2017 Report Share Posted June 10, 2017 If you think universal background checks will accomplish little to nothing then you don't understand what it is actually meant to accomplish. It is meant to close the "loophole" that allows people to buy and sell guns without government knowledge. UBC gives the government the registration database that they need to accomplish their long term goals. Waiting periods accomplish nothing. They are just a silly distraction meant to appease the weak-minded. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
netpackrat 566 Posted June 11, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 11, 2017 What Darth said, plus every time they can add more ass-pain to the process, they ensure that fewer people will be willing to go through it. That's the real reason so many places are off limits to CCW.... The point is to make carry enough of a pain in the ass that few people will bother, or alternatively to force otherwise law abiding gun owners into breaking the law if they want to go armed. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jerry52 893 Posted June 11, 2017 Report Share Posted June 11, 2017 We all agree that crazy people should not have guns. Back ground checks will never stop them. I have a vet freind who is breaking down mentally. He will not get help, he cannot keep a job, his wife ended their marriage but lets him stay at the house. He is in a different world and at times in anger talks about shooting his wife. He came to me the other day asking to borrow money. I bought his guns with out a background check but because he has not been diagnosed as mentally Ill he can get all the guns he wants. Evene if they are diagnosed mentally ill they can still lie on the application and most of the time the diagnosis does not get into the loop. Obama Care was supposed to link all this up. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
poolingmyignorance 2,191 Posted June 14, 2017 Report Share Posted June 14, 2017 We all agree that crazy people should not have guns. Back ground checks will never stop them. I have a vet freind who is breaking down mentally. He will not get help, he cannot keep a job, his wife ended their marriage but lets him stay at the house. He is in a different world and at times in anger talks about shooting his wife. He came to me the other day asking to borrow money. I bought his guns with out a background check but because he has not been diagnosed as mentally Ill he can get all the guns he wants. Evene if they are diagnosed mentally ill they can still lie on the application and most of the time the diagnosis does not get into the loop. Obama Care was supposed to link all this up. The problem was as always had been, they lump arbitrary power in to decide what is "mentally defunct" instead of simply including only officially adjudicated individuals. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
evlblkwpnz 3,418 Posted June 14, 2017 Report Share Posted June 14, 2017 If you think universal background checks will accomplish little to nothing then you don't understand what it is actually meant to accomplish. It is meant to close the "loophole" that allows people to buy and sell guns without government knowledge. UBC gives the government the registration database that they need to accomplish their long term goals. Waiting periods accomplish nothing. They are just a silly distraction meant to appease the weak-minded. For clarity, little or nothing good. Trust me, I know what the goal is. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
poolingmyignorance 2,191 Posted June 14, 2017 Report Share Posted June 14, 2017 If you think universal background checks will accomplish little to nothing then you don't understand what it is actually meant to accomplish. It is meant to close the "loophole" that allows people to buy and sell guns without government knowledge. UBC gives the government the registration database that they need to accomplish their long term goals. Waiting periods accomplish nothing. They are just a silly distraction meant to appease the weak-minded. For clarity, little or nothing good. Trust me, I know what the goal is. This is why I've considered the idea of simply including an disclaimer such as "PROHIBITED" on DL's or ID's... when an individual has been adjudicated as ineligible to own a firearm. We do it for minors so that store clerks can see at a glance they're too young to purchase liquor.. it would also mean that in the event it was necessary for armed citizen action in the context of which the 2nd Amendment was written, there would be no true barrier to preventing private sale... Ultimately the universal background check is just a stepping stone to achieve universal registration. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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