patriot 7,197 Posted August 22, 2017 Report Share Posted August 22, 2017 http://www.hannity.com/content/2017-08-22-cyber-warfare-navy-says-collisions-may-be-intentional/ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
G O B 3,516 Posted August 23, 2017 Report Share Posted August 23, 2017 Is there any connection to the "Fat Leonard" scandal? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HB of CJ 1,263 Posted August 23, 2017 Report Share Posted August 23, 2017 What is worse here? The second bad collision of one of our nifty fast manoeuvrable zero to 30kts in 3 minutes Burke class destroyers getting T Boned by an OIL TANKER? Or the immediate, (like considered before the fact) several day stand down of our 7th fleet? Which is worse? Are all the various brass and ship commanders singing in tune? Someone here on this Forum Topic hit the nail on the head? Is this a Mutiny by other means? Is our Navy sending a strong message to Trump? Or another message elsewhere? Yikes and yikes! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gaddis 1,689 Posted August 23, 2017 Report Share Posted August 23, 2017 (edited) Like Daniel Tosh would (most likely) point out, I bet a female Asian Naval officer was at the wheel. Or helm, or whatever it's called. I know someone will step up and correct me. Edited August 23, 2017 by Gaddis 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HB of CJ 1,263 Posted August 24, 2017 Report Share Posted August 24, 2017 If memory serves, the wheel is the physical wheel, lever, knob, or button one turns to change rudder positions. The Helm is the area immediately to and adjacent including the wheel. The Helm is more of a physical representation. The wheel is the actual gadget? Some help here please. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Capt Nemo 882 Posted August 24, 2017 Report Share Posted August 24, 2017 "I don't think these kids can steer!" ADM James T. Kirk. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
G O B 3,516 Posted August 24, 2017 Report Share Posted August 24, 2017 I fear that the problem is POLITICIZATION of the Military, the previous Administration had made great strides in turning the Nations War Fighters into "Rainbow warriors". All this stand down talk and accountability is just going to 'harsh their mellow', and we will hear how Trump is making the snowflakes feel scary! Mommies will call him evil for not giving their kids 'participation trophies' for just being there (or in the Hospital on the military dollar getting an 'addadicktome', or a 'vaginization'.! This is NOT a rant against the rainbow bunch, it is QUESTION : What business has the US Military have getting into this shit? Time to separate the Military from this social engineering fiasco they have been on for the last 8 years! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
6500rpm 670 Posted August 24, 2017 Report Share Posted August 24, 2017 How the fuck is it that a guided missile destroyer has no counter measures that keeps something like this from happening in this day and age. There should be absolutely no reason why anything should be able to get, or be headed in the path of a ship with that kind of weaponry without some type of failsafe in place to protect or evade it. This whole thing is mind blowing to me with the end result being 7 dead crew members, and the whole incident making our technology look feeble and weak. Someone really needs to get their head out of their ass. I really would like to know the series of events that allows this to happen as do the families of the dead sailors. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HB of CJ 1,263 Posted August 25, 2017 Report Share Posted August 25, 2017 There can be many poor reasons why this happened and all of them are bad. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sim_Player 1,939 Posted August 25, 2017 Report Share Posted August 25, 2017 (edited) I suspect China hacked the tanker's navigation systems (made in China?) No fingerprints and the US Navy would never fire on a civilian vessel, unless they fired first. Good officers will be thrown under the bus to protect the narrative that we are safe. Edited August 25, 2017 by Sim_Player Quote Link to post Share on other sites
IndyArms 10,186 Posted August 25, 2017 Report Share Posted August 25, 2017 Even our everyday driver vehicles have proximity warnings... Should be nothing to have a ship of that price point have a similar detection system and ability to override control and perform evasive maneuvers just like our cars can brake, or park themselves Quote Link to post Share on other sites
G O B 3,516 Posted August 25, 2017 Report Share Posted August 25, 2017 If anyone is AWAKE on our Destroyers, then there is NO WAY IN HELL to use freighters and cargo ships to ram them!!!!!!!! That is like trying to chase down a dirt bike with bulldozer - not gonna happen! Whatever is going on is an INTERNAL problem, and WE BETTER FIX IT QUICKLY! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
patriot 7,197 Posted August 25, 2017 Report Share Posted August 25, 2017 Now the USS McCain. Too many incidents to not be connected. My best guess is a cyber attack. http://www1.cbn.com/cbnnews/us/2017/august/uss-mccain-accident-forces-navy-to-call-for-one-day-operational-pause Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Machinist 150 Posted August 25, 2017 Report Share Posted August 25, 2017 Patriot, looks like we have an issue with the additional loss of life and multiple at sea collisions. I was glad to see the Admiral order a full investigation. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
patriot 7,197 Posted August 26, 2017 Report Share Posted August 26, 2017 http://nypost.com/2017/08/21/navy-to-consider-whether-crashed-warships-were-hacked/ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ronin38 2,117 Posted August 26, 2017 Author Report Share Posted August 26, 2017 China’s government rebuked the US Aug. 10 because the USS MCCain sailed too close to man-made islands in waters it claims to control. And N. Korea is known to have a large cyber-hacking department as well. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
G O B 3,516 Posted August 26, 2017 Report Share Posted August 26, 2017 There is NO WAY to 'hack' a Mark1 Mod0 EYEBALL! There can not be a collision if you ACTUALLY HAVE LOOKOUTS POSTED!!!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Capt Nemo 882 Posted August 26, 2017 Report Share Posted August 26, 2017 YUP! They're relying on their fancy toys too much! Like people on crackphones! I actually wouldn't mind if little Kimmie would EMP nuke us! It would force people to put down their damn phones! 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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