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#1 FL Thunder Stick

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Posted 20 July 2017 - 09:39 PM

I picked this up yesterday from my dealer, the DDI-12 Saiga clone made in China, and it it AWESOME!!!!!

 

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Check out these features:

 

Left side charging handle

Four position adjustable gas system

Threaded barrel (same as Saiga-12)

AR-15 style safety (ambidextrous)

Fiber optic front site

Peep rear site on dust cover

Set up for AR-15 mil-spec buffer tube

Accepts ALL SAIGA-12 mags and drums

Most Saiga-12 accessories will fit

Uses ANY standard AK pistol grip

 

 

These are at Centerfire Systems for $439.99!!!  The quality is fantastic and I love the finish on this gun, it's gorgeous! I am so glad I got one.

 

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Posted 21 July 2017 - 09:22 AM

How's it shoot? Videos are good.


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Posted 21 July 2017 - 10:07 PM

How's it shoot? Videos are good.

 

Should be taking it to the range on Sunday. Videos for sure!!! :-)

 

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Posted 22 July 2017 - 08:04 AM

If you ever replace the factory handguard and want to sell it, please let me know! I've been wanting to see how that handguard would look on my Saiga 12 SBS.


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Posted 22 July 2017 - 05:27 PM

If you ever replace the factory handguard and want to sell it, please let me know! I've been wanting to see how that handguard would look on my Saiga 12 SBS.

I think it would look great shucked back a bit.


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Posted 22 July 2017 - 08:10 PM

 

If you ever replace the factory handguard and want to sell it, please let me know! I've been wanting to see how that handguard would look on my Saiga 12 SBS.

I think it would look great shucked back a bit.

 

 

That's craziness! These things kick like a mule with the 19" barrel, I can't imagine how they feel as an SBS!!! OUCH!!!

 

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Posted 24 July 2017 - 09:50 PM

Shorter barrel might tame that a bit, believe it or not.


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Posted 24 July 2017 - 10:31 PM

I end up getting the SAS12... I wanted the DDI but decided I'd pursue the Canik TP9SFX I'm already the proud owner of a TP9SA.

They really are awesome pistols.
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Posted 24 July 2017 - 10:43 PM

If you ever replace the factory handguard and want to sell it, please let me know! I've been wanting to see how that handguard would look on my Saiga 12 SBS.

I think it would look great shucked back a bit.
 
That's craziness! These things kick like a mule with the 19" barrel, I can't imagine how thYborey feel as an SBS!!! OUCH!!!
 
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Get one of the crosshair hydraulic recoil buffers that replaces the buffer tube in an m4-type stock.

You can shoot 3' mags in a t-shirt with nary a bruise.

There's another one, kynshot, that is adjustable, but I have no personal experience with that one.

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Posted 25 July 2017 - 01:03 AM

 

 

 

If you ever replace the factory handguard and want to sell it, please let me know! I've been wanting to see how that handguard would look on my Saiga 12 SBS.

I think it would look great shucked back a bit.
 
That's craziness! These things kick like a mule with the 19" barrel, I can't imagine how thYborey feel as an SBS!!! OUCH!!!
 
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Alan,
Get one of the crosshair hydraulic recoil buffers that replaces the buffer tube in an m4-type stock.

You can shoot 3' mags in a t-shirt with nary a bruise.

There's another one, kynshot, that is adjustable, but I have no personal experience with that one.

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The Crosshair Hydraulic recoil buffer doesn't replace the buffer tube, it just replaces the buffer in an AR.  I don't see how you could install that on an S12 unless you are referring to a different device


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Posted 25 July 2017 - 08:28 AM

I do have a Kynshot recoil damper (see my avatar) on my Saiga 12 and it is absolutely fantastic! I'm going to take it off of the Saiga 12 and put it on the DDI 12 for shooting at my brother's property later in the week. I will definitely take pictures and videos of me shooting this new DDI 12 and I'm sure it will function just fine, stay tuned. :-)

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Posted 25 July 2017 - 10:49 AM

glad youre happy, i liked the idea of the features.  and at this price its a lot better deal (than the 600 it came in at)...

 

the tak 47 is like 480+shipping at some retailers, i may chase one of those down...


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Posted 25 July 2017 - 01:10 PM

The DDI-12 has been rebranded as a Cheetah-12 and is currently being imported from China by SDS Imports.  We have parts and accessories at CSS.

 

http://www.carolinas...ries_s/2147.htm


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Posted 25 July 2017 - 11:30 PM

The DDI-12 has been rebranded as a Cheetah-12 and is currently being imported from China by SDS Imports. We have parts and accessories at CSS.

http://www.carolinas...ries_s/2147.htm


Thanks for the info. I have bought stuff from your website before when I was doing my Saiga 12. I am looking to do a few modifications to the DDI but nothing like I did to the Saiga! I probably have at least $2,000 invested in that gun! :-). Thanks again for the link, I will be visiting soon.

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Posted 26 July 2017 - 12:53 AM

If you ever replace the factory handguard and want to sell it, please let me know! I've been wanting to see how that handguard would look on my Saiga 12 SBS.

I think it would look great shucked back a bit.
 
That's craziness! These things kick like a mule with the 19" barrel, I can't imagine how thYborey feel as an SBS!!! OUCH!!!
 
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Get one of the crosshair hydraulic recoil buffers that replaces the buffer tube in an m4-type stock.
You can shoot 3' mags in a t-shirt with nary a bruise.
There's another one, kynshot, that is adjustable, but I have no personal experience with that one.
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The Crosshair Hydraulic recoil buffer doesn't replace the buffer tube, it just replaces the buffer in an AR.  I don't see how you could install that on an S12 unless you are referring to a different device

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You're looking at the wrong one.

Go to Mesa Tactical and look up the one for a shotgun.

The one you're referring to is for an AR, and does indeed go inside the buffer tube
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Posted 26 July 2017 - 01:05 AM

 

 

 

 

 

If you ever replace the factory handguard and want to sell it, please let me know! I've been wanting to see how that handguard would look on my Saiga 12 SBS.

I think it would look great shucked back a bit.
 
That's craziness! These things kick like a mule with the 19" barrel, I can't imagine how thYborey feel as an SBS!!! OUCH!!!
 
Alan

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Get one of the crosshair hydraulic recoil buffers that replaces the buffer tube in an m4-type stock.
You can shoot 3' mags in a t-shirt with nary a bruise.
There's another one, kynshot, that is adjustable, but I have no personal experience with that one.
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The Crosshair Hydraulic recoil buffer doesn't replace the buffer tube, it just replaces the buffer in an AR.  I don't see how you could install that on an S12 unless you are referring to a different device

Pedal,
You're looking at the wrong one.

Go to Mesa Tactical and look up the one for a shotgun.

The one you're referring to is for an AR, and does indeed go inside the buffer tube
JESS1344

 

 

Oh yeah, that's cool.  Thanks!

 

https://mesatactical...uffer-mil-spec/

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Posted 26 July 2017 - 01:10 AM

The DDI-12 has been rebranded as a Cheetah-12 and is currently being imported from China by SDS Imports.  We have parts and accessories at CSS.
 
http://www.carolinas...ries_s/2147.htm


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I wish someone would make a deeper pig nose for that crosshair buffer.

As it is, you only get to use a bit over half of the threaded end to go into the pig nose before it bottoms out against the heads of the bolts that hold it against the ace hinge.

I keep getting this mental image of either the threads stripping out, or the pig nose splitting under recoil, and me eating the back of the receiver!

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Posted 26 July 2017 - 03:58 AM

The DDI-12 has been rebranded as a Cheetah-12 and is currently being imported from China by SDS Imports.  We have parts and accessories at CSS.

 

http://www.carolinas...ries_s/2147.htm

 

Can you tell us which parts in the current configuration are US made for 922r compliance? I'm concerned that SDS isn't making the parts substitutions as done by DDI. The one I examined didn't have the cartridge FCG that the DDI guns did.


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Posted 03 August 2017 - 12:23 AM

 

The DDI-12 has been rebranded as a Cheetah-12 and is currently being imported from China by SDS Imports.  We have parts and accessories at CSS.

 

http://www.carolinas...ries_s/2147.htm

 

Can you tell us which parts in the current configuration are US made for 922r compliance? I'm concerned that SDS isn't making the parts substitutions as done by DDI. The one I examined didn't have the cartridge FCG that the DDI guns did.

 

 

Has anyone EVER been prosecuted for 922® violations? I have heard that there have been ZERO cases regarding such violations.

 

Can anyone confirm this?

 

As for the gun having U.S. parts, I would have to say that it has at least eight, either made by DDI or some other U.S. company.

 

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ETA - Correction.....make that at least FIVE parts. I just found out that the magazine it ships with is an imported part.


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Posted 03 August 2017 - 01:59 PM

As I understand it, all parts are made in China.  For 922r, if you care, you can get to 5 parts using a combinations of these parts:

 

Buttstock (1)

Pistol Grip (1)

Handguard (1)

Magazine (3)

Muzzle Brake (1)

 

Some could argue the brake doesn't count but this is our list.


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Posted 03 August 2017 - 08:08 PM

As I understand it, all parts are made in China.  For 922r, if you care, you can get to 5 parts using a combinations of these parts:

 

Buttstock (1)

Pistol Grip (1)

Handguard (1)

Magazine (3)

Muzzle Brake (1)

 

Some could argue the brake doesn't count but this is our list.

 

I'm going to have to disagree.

 

If ALL parts are Chinese and ALL Chinese guns are banned from import, how did it get to my house?

 

My guess? It is being imported from Canada. Therefore, NO IMPORT BAN!!!

 

 

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Posted 04 August 2017 - 09:09 AM

umm no. all guns are not banned from China. Only rifles and pistols. There are several shotguns and parts coming direct from China, the coach shotgun that like 10 companies offer are all Chinese.


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Posted 04 August 2017 - 08:25 PM

umm no. all guns are not banned from China. Only rifles and pistols. There are several shotguns and parts coming direct from China, the coach shotgun that like 10 companies offer are all Chinese.

 

That does make sense because I also have an IAC Hawk 982 that is from China and it is a great gun!

 

BTW, I love your mags for the S12 & DDI12! You guys ROCK!!!!!

 

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