JohnInNH

I think MD wanted $5 each.. I had to lower the back of the clip so the catch in the back would fit in the groove. The back of the clips is a little wider on the MD clips. Place on hard surface.. Use a large BASTARD metal file.. Then behind the lips lower the top part that fits under the protrusion that the mag rel clips under. It does not take a lot.remove only about 1-2 match book cover thicknesses. Then you may need to remove a little material in front of the lips to get them to seat forward enough to engage the nubs into the holes of the clips. I describe it a little in the p

The SureFire holds the top round in better than the AGP mags do. If you take each mag and put in 5 rounds each and then flip the tip of the round up, the AGP will lift up very easily. The SureFire mags, not as easy.. I found the AGP's would loose a round easily when pulling them from my range bag and the round pop out then roll of the bench. That lead me to compair them to Surefire, OEM mags and the MD-20 Drum. That's when I discovered the AGPs were lacking in that one aspect. (the rest is just fine) So I took the metal clip from my MD-20 drum and noticed it had longer lips on it.

its just sad that it was only 3" . yeah we know, thanks. I think the pictures came out well..Did the .gov take them or use HIS pictures ... makes ya wonder. LOL

Supposedly the clear surefire mags have taken into account the raw material and they used a special plastic that is allegedly as good or BETTER than the plastic they use in the black mags. I have a clear surefire mag and so for it has worked as well as the black surefire mags. The top round retention is a LOT better than the retention I get from the stock AGP mags. I took off the AGP metal clips and replaced them with reworked MD-20 drum clips. They now have about 50% more retention (lift up on the nose of the shotgun shell) On an AGP and it will lift up VERY easily, the Surefir

That can be the only conclusion. I even tried lightly tapping it back in because forget trying to put it back in by hand. I don't abuse my weapons other than how they should be and I know I haven't done anything to cause by user error. None the less the stock one goes right back into place so I believe something is faulty with my puck. Do they use an inferior metal or something? I don't want to start internet rumors about a company because I know how annoying that can get. However something isn't right. Has this happened to other people? I had the same problem with the stock Twister puc

That right there is the most intelligent sentence in this thread. All you self proclaimed bad-asses that put those stupid videos on youtube are doing more harm then you can imagine. If you think that the government doesn't view those videos, your sadly mistaken. Grow up, quit thinking your some kind of mercenary soldier of fortune, and quit placing those videos on public web sites. If you want a shotgun or a rifle to remain classified as sporting purposes, then treat it as a sporting gun while in the public eye. If you want them declared as a destructive devise, then keep doin

MD-20 Drum is BATF&E Famous: http://www.atf.gov/publications/firearms/012611-study-on-importality-of-certain-shotguns.pdf See last pages..

I am waiting on the double stack mags. I HOPE the RIO slugs and buck with the roll crimp fit. The AGP 10 rounds are nice but a tad long. I have a MD-20 which runs fine.. But it is BIG and really is for "play" I would consider a compact double stack THE answer.

I will have to play with the #3 and #4 setting some more.. It was 10 deg out and windy so I did not spend much time playing with it. It just looked to me as if the cut out was indexed so the openings were the most at those 2 settings. But it's hard to really see. Maybe the #4 is to much and for some reason the timing is such that it hits the bolt handle Regardless I like your Gas plug... It's staying in. IF #5 works with a stock spring with Federal bulk and #2 is enough to prevent damage with high power ammo that's a GOOD thing. Keep us posted on the double stack mags! (drool)

My wallet is now waiting for the double stack from MD AND the 60 round QUAD stack for my M16A1

The RIO Slugs and buck will not fit the MD-20 either :-( If only the MD-20 was just a little bit longer... Any source for cheap buck and slugs that will fit a MD-2? I guess 10 rounds will JUST have to do LOL

Mike... Thanks for the Mag "Clips"... See pictures here of my modified AGP Mags: http://forum.saiga-12.com/index.php?showtopic=19834&st=120 Now the AGP will do till the double stack comes out. :-) When I got the clips from you I was going to order another drum.. but decided to wait for the double stack. I have noticed the V-Plug for my High Brass needs to be on #3 I do not have ammo that will eject with it on #2. #1 I feel is just a gas "shut off" for a Red Jacket silencer LOL .. That or for mongo 3" rounds. OUCH If I screw the gas plug in all the way it w

Used my KA Tappet while testing my MD spring clip modified AGP mags. I put the stock SAIGA recoil spring back in and was able to cycle low brass just fine with my V-Plug on "+" KA Tappet still would shake loose in the gas tube after 30 rounds. I am glad I exchanged the Twister for it. THANK YOU King Armory!

I don't know if it was just my 10 round AGP mags that are having this problem or if all Gen 2 AGP mags do this. The top round flips out VERY easily.. Just a bump taking it out of my range bag and the top shell will pop out flying over the bench... Take your finger and gently lift up on the front of the shot shell and it will VERY easily lift up and then pivot, the spring pressure then pops it out. My other mags do not do this. The surefire plastic lip mags hold tight.. and the OEM 5 round with the spring steel clip lips hold very tight and the MD-20 drum holds it even tighter.

I just received my replacement tappet from KA for the twister I sent in for the exchange KA is offering.. They have my business and I will support them when I can. I wonder if KA will do some precision measurements of the returns and publish the results on their site? I also wonder how many returns they got, and how many provided detailed 1st hand experience of how the twister performed in their guns. I installed it and was impressed by the initial quality. It has a very nice finish. I have yet to shoot it. I HAVE put the factory recoil spring back in and will bring the reduce