[mike123456]

Special thanks go out to imparidel for telling me about the TDI rails. I just found the time to get in the shop, mill these rails, handguards, and drill the holes to mount them.

Tony at tromix for converting these awesome shotguns.


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Thats all your allowed to see now stop drooling.

[6500rpm]

Mike, what AR stock adapter did you use? Nice builds!

[headshot]

6500rpm, on Dec 22 2007, 01:31 PM, said:

Mike, what AR stock adapter did you use? Nice builds!

Looks like an Vltor adapter.

[mike123456]

Thestock adaptr is a vltor.

The biggest problem with these shotguns is you have no good way to put a sling on them. The rails give me the option to use a rail mounted side sling adaptor. Now I have slings on them and can take them somewhere without my arms falling off.

[TheGunHustler]

Does your drum actually work?

[Paladin]

Cool! Nice S12's

[dayan inikhaton]

the mag reminds of that ancient folly the French Cheucheu, or how ever that piece of shit was spelled. Mud in the magazine was just one of the things wrong with that animal

[bl4ckd0g]

You mean the Chauchat? (Cow-shit)

Did Tony have to fit your drum mag into the receiver? Looks damn nice.

[mike123456]

nope, Ive had these shotguns for a while now, just showing off the rails, slings, and drum.

The drum works in both guns, but its a little loose in the side folder, so it rocks back and forth a little. Yes the drum works in both guns.

[jcmfirearms]

It's exactly like that Chauchat POS. If anyone is not familiar with the French contribution to warefare then read this!

The Complete Military History of France:
* Gallic Wars - Lost. In a war whose ending foreshadows the next 2000 years of French
history, France is conquered by, of all things, an Italian.
* Hundred Years War - Mostly lost, saved at last by female schizophrenic who inadvertently creates The First Rule of French Warfare:
"France's armies are only victorious when not led by a Frenchman."
* Italian Wars - Lost. France becomes the first and only country to ever lose two wars when fighting Italians.
* Wars of Religion - France goes 0-5-4 against the Huguenots
* Thirty Years War - France is technically not a participant, but manages to get invaded anyway. She claims a tie on the basis that eventually the other participants started ignoring her.
* War of Devolution - Tied. Frenchmen take to wearing red flowerpots as chapeaux.
* The Dutch War - Tied
* War of the Augsburg League/King William's War/French and Indian War - Lost, but claimed as a tie. Three "ties" in a row induces deluded Frogophiles the world over to label the period as the height of French military power.
* War of the Spanish Succession - Lost. The War also gave the French their first taste of a Marlborough, which they have loved ever since.
* American Revolution - In a move that will become quite familiar to future Americans, France claims a win even though the formerly English colonists saw far more action. This is later known as "de Gaulle Syndrome", and leads to the Second Rule of French Warfare:
"France only wins when America does most of the fighting."
* French Revolution - Won, primarily due the fact that the opponent was also French.
* Napoleonic Wars - Lost. Temporary victories (remember the First Rule!) due to leadership of a Corsican, who ended up being no match for a British footwear designer.
* Franco-Prussian War - Lost. Germany first plays the role of drunk frat boy to France's ugly girl home alone on a Saturday night.
* World War I - Tied and on the way to losing, France is saved by the United States. Thousands of French women find out what it's like not only to sleep with a winner, but with one who doesn't call her "Fraulein." Sadly, widespread use of condoms by American forces forestalls any improvement in the French bloodline.
* World War II - Lost. Conquered French liberated by the United States and Britain just as they finish learning the Horst Wessel Song.
* War in Indochina - Lost. French forces plead sickness, take to bed with the Dien Bien Flu
* Algerian Rebellion - Lost. Loss marks the first defeat of a western army by a Non-Turkic Muslim force since the Crusades, and produces the First Rule of Muslim Warfare; "We can always beat the French." This rule is identical to the First Rules of the Italians, Russians, Germans, English, Dutch, Spanish, Vietnamese and Esquimaux.
* War on Terrorism - Losing. France, keeping in mind its recent history, surrenders to Germans and Muslims just to be safe. Attempts to surrender to the Vietnamese ambassador fail after he takes refuge in a McDonald's. France will be the first European country to fall to Islam and will no longer exist for Frenchmen.

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[mike123456]

I dont plan on low crawling through the mud with it, so it works for my purposes. My purpose is a range toy.

If I use it in combat, theres no question about it. I would only use the russian 9rd stick mags, drums are too big and cumbersome to carry even if they do work....

Slamming WM on this fourm is getting old BTW.

This post has been edited by mike123456: 22 December 2007 - 09:41 PM

[jcmfirearms]

Sorry if it's getting old for you but several very reliable sources on this forum can attest to the failures of the Wraithfaker. I'm glad you have had no problems but until they get their shit together they aren't getting any breaks from me. Nice gun by the way, here's my favorite!

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[headshot]

dayan inikhaton, on Dec 22 2007, 06:28 PM, said:

the mag reminds of that ancient folly the French Cheucheu, or how ever that piece of shit was spelled. Mud in the magazine was just one of the things wrong with that animal

That hilarious because that is exactly what I said about the wraithmaker a couple months ago in some other thread. Open mag=big mistake.

[headshot]

Bvamp, on Dec 23 2007, 01:17 AM, said:

nice guns man, now you just need to load up 20 slugs in that thing and video yourself up bump firing them in one short burst down it

That would be a nice change. I would love to see an entire WM drum bump-fired in an unmodified gun just so there would be some proof of it. It certainly would end some arguments.

[mike123456]

Im not sure if its possale to bumpfire the drum off from the hip because the drum gets in the way.

Im going to the range today so i'll bring the camera and give it try.

[Gary]

jcmfirearms, on Dec 22 2007, 06:27 PM, said:

It's exactly like that Chauchat POS. If anyone is not familiar with the French contribution to warefare then read this!

The Complete Military History of France:
* Gallic Wars - Lost. In a war whose ending foreshadows the next 2000 years of French
history, France is conquered by, of all things, an Italian.
* Hundred Years War - Mostly lost, saved at last by female schizophrenic who inadvertently creates The First Rule of French Warfare:
"France's armies are only victorious when not led by a Frenchman."
* Italian Wars - Lost. France becomes the first and only country to ever lose two wars when fighting Italians.
* Wars of Religion - France goes 0-5-4 against the Huguenots
* Thirty Years War - France is technically not a participant, but manages to get invaded anyway. She claims a tie on the basis that eventually the other participants started ignoring her.
* War of Devolution - Tied. Frenchmen take to wearing red flowerpots as chapeaux.
* The Dutch War - Tied
* War of the Augsburg League/King William's War/French and Indian War - Lost, but claimed as a tie. Three "ties" in a row induces deluded Frogophiles the world over to label the period as the height of French military power.
* War of the Spanish Succession - Lost. The War also gave the French their first taste of a Marlborough, which they have loved ever since.
* American Revolution - In a move that will become quite familiar to future Americans, France claims a win even though the formerly English colonists saw far more action. This is later known as "de Gaulle Syndrome", and leads to the Second Rule of French Warfare:
"France only wins when America does most of the fighting."
* French Revolution - Won, primarily due the fact that the opponent was also French.
* Napoleonic Wars - Lost. Temporary victories (remember the First Rule!) due to leadership of a Corsican, who ended up being no match for a British footwear designer.
* Franco-Prussian War - Lost. Germany first plays the role of drunk frat boy to France's ugly girl home alone on a Saturday night.
* World War I - Tied and on the way to losing, France is saved by the United States. Thousands of French women find out what it's like not only to sleep with a winner, but with one who doesn't call her "Fraulein." Sadly, widespread use of condoms by American forces forestalls any improvement in the French bloodline.
* World War II - Lost. Conquered French liberated by the United States and Britain just as they finish learning the Horst Wessel Song.
* War in Indochina - Lost. French forces plead sickness, take to bed with the Dien Bien Flu
* Algerian Rebellion - Lost. Loss marks the first defeat of a western army by a Non-Turkic Muslim force since the Crusades, and produces the First Rule of Muslim Warfare; "We can always beat the French." This rule is identical to the First Rules of the Italians, Russians, Germans, English, Dutch, Spanish, Vietnamese and Esquimaux.
* War on Terrorism - Losing. France, keeping in mind its recent history, surrenders to Germans and Muslims just to be safe. Attempts to surrender to the Vietnamese ambassador fail after he takes refuge in a McDonald's. France will be the first European country to fall to Islam and will no longer exist for Frenchmen.

This is one of the damned-funniest things I have read in a very long time. Without question, worth saving as a word document for further use.

Thank you jcmfirearms!!!! You ROCK!!!!

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[mike123456]

It turned into a blizzard all day, freezing cold, so the range got canceled. I'll make a vid tomorrow morning and post it.

These shotguns are tromix conversions that havent been modified other than the stocks and grips which I did. The one with the galil handguard may have a stoppage once in a while but its just the bolt not closeing all the way, a tap forward on the charging handle and your back in buisness.

The side folder, oddly enough, the drum is a little loose and rocks back and forth a little but it runs 100% havent had a problem with it yet.

This post has been edited by mike123456: 23 December 2007 - 06:28 PM

[jcmfirearms]

Glad you appreciated the french humor Gary, as I pretty much hate all things from the country that shows off that rusty erector set they call a tower!

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