Brotherjethro 0 Posted December 30, 2008 Report Share Posted December 30, 2008 Sweet. Santa arrived today at 4pm and brought two Surefire Saiga 12 mags from CSS! Yes, they're big. And yes, they really do hold 13 rounds and still insert on a closed bolt! Can't wait to try them out. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BUFF_dragon 3 Posted December 30, 2008 Report Share Posted December 30, 2008 That is definitly a monster ... WOW Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AmericanKenpo 0 Posted December 30, 2008 Report Share Posted December 30, 2008 Sweet. Santa arrived today at 4pm and brought two Surefire Saiga 12 mags from CSS! Yes, they're big. And yes, they really do hold 13 rounds and still insert on a closed bolt! Can't wait to try them out. DAMN........... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jdeitch 32 Posted December 30, 2008 Report Share Posted December 30, 2008 WOW THATS BIG!!! All you need is a rubber foot and that would make a great monopod! How does it function compared to the AGP? I notice it has no metal lips... Any issues? I wonder if it could be cut down smaller to go through a standard width doorway for home defense? (8 to 10 rnds maybe) I'm interested... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Brotherjethro 0 Posted December 30, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 30, 2008 WOW THATS BIG!!! All you need is a rubber foot and that would make a great monopod! How does it function compared to the AGP? I notice it has no metal lips... Any issues? I wonder if it could be cut down smaller to go through a standard width doorway for home defense? (8 to 10 rnds maybe) I'm interested... I won't know about function until I get out to the range. Probably within the week. Greg from CSS says they work great, so for now I'll have to take his word for it. I believe they are designed to be cut down to shorter lengths if you like. The mag body has ribs to engage the floor plate all along its length, so you'd just cut along one of those. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Prodge 0 Posted December 30, 2008 Report Share Posted December 30, 2008 HOLY MOLY! Looks huge and bad a.. lol, how does the gun feel in your hands now with a loaded mag? balanced? seems like it might take some getting used too?? I ordered two from CSS also...just out of curiosity when did you place your order? Thanks for the comparison pics by the way Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Brotherjethro 0 Posted December 30, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 30, 2008 (edited) HOLY MOLY! Looks huge and bad a.. lol, how does the gun feel in your hands now with a loaded mag? balanced? seems like it might take some getting used too?? I ordered two from CSS also...just out of curiosity when did you place your order? Thanks for the comparison pics by the way The balance doesn't seem any different than with the AGP 10rd mags. Visually it's a bit shocking, but it's 13 rounds! Who needs a drum? Re: When did I order -- I don't remember exactly, but it was about 2 weeks before Christmas, and it was understood that these were just preorders. It appears CSS is cranking through the order backlog quickly. Edited December 30, 2008 by Brotherjethro Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Prodge 0 Posted December 30, 2008 Report Share Posted December 30, 2008 I'm with you...although I think the drum has it's place a couple 13 rd mags will pretty much do it for me Yeah I pre-ordered about 10 days ago...Just wanted to have an idea where he was at. Can't wait to get mine HOLY MOLY! Looks huge and bad a.. lol, how does the gun feel in your hands now with a loaded mag? balanced? seems like it might take some getting used too?? I ordered two from CSS also...just out of curiosity when did you place your order? Thanks for the comparison pics by the way The balance doesn't seem any different than with the AGP 10rd mags. Visually it's a bit shocking, but it's 13 rounds! Who needs a drum? Re: When did I order -- I don't remember exactly, but it was about 2 weeks before Christmas, and it was understood that these were just preorders. It appears CSS is cranking through the order backlog quickly. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ballistician 1 Posted December 30, 2008 Report Share Posted December 30, 2008 The AGPs look so tiny now.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DrWho 10 Posted December 30, 2008 Report Share Posted December 30, 2008 ok i ordered mine: Dec 21 (9 days ago) think they will come today? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Brotherjethro 0 Posted December 30, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 30, 2008 The AGPs look so tiny now.. Somehow I picture your avatar saying that! But seriously, you're right. I never thought I would think that the AGPs looked "normal". Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sunnybean 939 Posted December 30, 2008 Report Share Posted December 30, 2008 (edited) Noobie alter...can someone please point me to this CSS company. I googled w/o luck. Thank you. ETA...Doh, just found their banner above. Edited December 30, 2008 by sunnybean Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DrWho 10 Posted December 30, 2008 Report Share Posted December 30, 2008 link: http://store.carolinashooterssupply.com/se...-shotgun/Detail Quote Link to post Share on other sites
emptythemag 1 Posted December 30, 2008 Report Share Posted December 30, 2008 My payment went out on 12-10-08 for 20 of these mags...cant wait to get them....hopefully soon. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gmorgan 2 Posted December 30, 2008 Report Share Posted December 30, 2008 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Franky 2 Posted December 30, 2008 Report Share Posted December 30, 2008 Ridiculous! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
G O B 3,516 Posted December 31, 2008 Report Share Posted December 31, 2008 If they wont work, you can allways use 2 of them make a bridge so you can drive a truck over the creek. Damn them things is LOOOOONG! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DMGunn 1 Posted December 31, 2008 Report Share Posted December 31, 2008 (edited) If you were to shorten one significantly (like, to 8 rds), does the company make any mention of trimming the spring? I would expect it to fatigue faster being under more than normal compression, even when empty. The option of making my choice of capacity (wonderful idea) is what I find most appealing about these things, as long as it will feed reliably for years to come.......the AGPs are great, but even they are a bit too long for my needs. I wouldn't be able to show my face in public toting one of these things around, at least in stock form. It is the stick mag equivalent to the Alliance 30 round drum - (only in appearance, of course - I hear a piece of downspout with a slinky inside would be the equivalent in function). Edited December 31, 2008 by DMGunn Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cobra 76 two 2,677 Posted December 31, 2008 Report Share Posted December 31, 2008 To each his own I guess... I don't really give a rat's ass what other people think. If I've got 13 rds at my disposal....then I've got 13 rds....period. I have factory 2 rdrs, 5 rdrs, 8 rdrs, +2 extensions that will work on all of them... AGP 10's, MD-20's, hell even a 20 round WM tampon dispensor I think they are awesome....but then again, I actually have tried them and know they don't feel that much different really in the weapon. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
fxhart 14 Posted December 31, 2008 Report Share Posted December 31, 2008 I got an email Sunday from Greg @ Carolina Shooters Supply Sunday saying he's printing the label and my mags will go (went) out on Monday. Now if only I could afford ammo (lay off's suck). Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GLOCKshooter 1 Posted December 31, 2008 Report Share Posted December 31, 2008 They are COOL as Hell in my 8", Really adds to the whole "krinkov" thing! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
emt1581 0 Posted December 31, 2008 Report Share Posted December 31, 2008 Just got my care package from CSS. In it was my 4 12rd. mags and some other goodies! These mags are definitely HUGE, but not obtrusive in my opinon. It might sound a little off, but when you're looking at the gun it almost reminds me of Falcon wings being down under the body. I'm looking at the chopping points and it looks like you can cut it down to 10rds, 8rds, 5 rds, or 2 (or 3) rds. I'm not sure how others are able to do it, but I couldn't get my mag in with a closed bolt with 12 or 13 rounds. I'm assuming the rest of yall are using the BHO, inserting the mag, pressing down on the top-most round, and then letting the bolt slide closed....sound about right? That's how I did it, but yeah definitely holds 13rds. with no problem! Thanks Greg! Hell of a guy! -Emt1581 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
emt1581 0 Posted December 31, 2008 Report Share Posted December 31, 2008 They are COOL as Hell in my 8", Really adds to the whole "krinkov" thing! I'd love to see pics! Thanks! -Emt1581 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hobbyshooter 59 Posted December 31, 2008 Report Share Posted December 31, 2008 (edited) Just got my care package from CSS. In it was my 4 12rd. mags and some other goodies! These mags are definitely HUGE, but not obtrusive in my opinon. It might sound a little off, but when you're looking at the gun it almost reminds me of Falcon wings being down under the body. I'm looking at the chopping points and it looks like you can cut it down to 10rds, 8rds, 5 rds, or 2 (or 3) rds. I'm not sure how others are able to do it, but I couldn't get my mag in with a closed bolt with 12 or 13 rounds. I'm assuming the rest of yall are using the BHO, inserting the mag, pressing down on the top-most round, and then letting the bolt slide closed....sound about right? That's how I did it, but yeah definitely holds 13rds. with no problem! Thanks Greg! Hell of a guy! -Emt1581 Congrats guys. I'm still waiting for my email, but at least I've got 4 AGP mags to empty at our new years blast. As for loading on a closed bolt, it's tricky with any mag loaded at any capacity. As long as the mag still has some spring to compress when fully loaded you should be able to jam the front of the mag in hard enough for the bolt to shove the rounds down in the mag a little and get the front hook to catch, then rock it back fast. I practiced it with 3" shells in an AGP and got it in a few times but the number of failed tries was far greater. I found it so much easier to just reach under the gun and pull the bolt open with my left hand and flick the BHO up with my trigger finger. I don't compete so I don't really need to speed load. I just wanted to be comfortable doing a mag swap with the gun still on target in the event of zombie, squirrel, or bird attacks. <edit> I got an shiping info email as I was typing this post. HA! Edited December 31, 2008 by hobbyshooter Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AkuSaru 0 Posted December 31, 2008 Report Share Posted December 31, 2008 It's a (belated) Christmas miracle! Just got my shipping notification for my 5 mags, Tri-Rail Foregrip, and Vert Grip. I'M EXCITED! Now to make up my mind on a folding stock I like before it's too late... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
fxhart 14 Posted December 31, 2008 Report Share Posted December 31, 2008 I just got mine today! They are frikkin' HUGE! Definately will be buying 8 rounders and a 2 rounder when they come out. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AlaskanMBR 0 Posted January 1, 2009 Report Share Posted January 1, 2009 I ordered mine on 12/14, hopefully I'll be getting a shipping email soon!!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TR Young 175 Posted January 1, 2009 Report Share Posted January 1, 2009 I just got word that my 20 will be shipping on Friday! Can't friggin wait! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gpqueen 545 Posted January 1, 2009 Report Share Posted January 1, 2009 I ordered mine on 12/14, hopefully I'll be getting a shipping email soon!!! Since 12/24/08 we have sent out several hundred mags. We have been receiving 100 every 3 days or so. All orders placed up to 12/10/08 have shipped. The next shipment is expected on Monday 1/5/09 and we will be able to ship all orders placed from 12/10/08 and most of 12/11/08. Production will start moving much faster with the holidays over and the shipment sizes will increase. We will start catching up quickly on all pre-orders after next week. I am going to extend the $47.95 pre-order price until every pre-order is filled. We had originally planned on being caught up by the 1/1/09, but the first shipments had been delayed a few weeks. You can still pre-order them for $47.95 for a little while if you do not mind waiting a few weeks for them to ship to you. Once we are caught up they will be $49.95. Shipping is by Priority USPS. They are the quickest. We charge $7 for the first magazine and around $1 for each additional. We really appreciate everyone's business and I always try to return email's and phone calls as soon as possible. Email's and PM's are still the easiest way to catch me. Thanks again, Greg Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sonnydazegunsmithing 42 Posted January 1, 2009 Report Share Posted January 1, 2009 I ordered mine on 12/14, hopefully I'll be getting a shipping email soon!!! Since 12/24/08 we have sent out several hundred mags. We have been receiving 100 every 3 days or so. All orders placed up to 12/10/08 have shipped. The next shipment is expected on Monday 1/5/09 and we will be able to ship all orders placed from 12/10/08 and most of 12/11/08. Production will start moving much faster with the holidays over and the shipment sizes will increase. We will start catching up quickly on all pre-orders after next week. I am going to extend the $47.95 pre-order price until every pre-order is filled. We had originally planned on being caught up by the 1/1/09, but the first shipments had been delayed a few weeks. You can still pre-order them for $47.95 for a little while if you do not mind waiting a few weeks for them to ship to you. Once we are caught up they will be $49.95. Shipping is by Priority USPS. They are the quickest. We charge $7 for the first magazine and around $1 for each additional. We really appreciate everyone's business and I always try to return email's and phone calls as soon as possible. Email's and PM's are still the easiest way to catch me. Thanks again, Greg what if you were a dumb ass and made 2 different orders oh well ill get mine when they show up Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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