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#1 VanKiller

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Posted 31 October 2009 - 10:28 AM

Well I just felt the need to start one of these projects. With a Cutts Comp I should be able to keep the felt recoil down to manageable levels. Or I might just do it as a SBS and let people who piss me off shoot it............... Posted Image

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Posted 31 October 2009 - 10:50 AM

You're a sick man Tom Cole....

Can I shoot it ? :wub:

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Posted 31 October 2009 - 10:58 AM

Joe, do you have a part time job as a "Crash Test Dunny" ?

OK, Keep your eyes peeled for a Saiga range day in Cadiz, and you can come be abused by my inventory..... Posted Image

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You're a sick man Tom Cole....

Can I shoot it ? Posted Image

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Posted 31 October 2009 - 11:09 AM

I was looking at trying something like this recently...does it clear the bottom of the magazines??? maybe a 10 rounder????

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Posted 31 October 2009 - 01:27 PM

Or maybe the but can be elongated to be able to slide over it. This should be interesting. :Johnboy:

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Posted 31 October 2009 - 03:39 PM

scoutjoe, on 31 October 2009 - 10:50 AM, said:

You're a sick man Tom Cole....

Can I shoot it ? Posted Image

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Posted 31 October 2009 - 07:11 PM

I would love to have an underfolder s12! Cant wait to see the finished pics and vids

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Posted 31 October 2009 - 10:04 PM

Looks like your on to something here. It almost looks like a under folder from a MP40. Is that where you got your design? Is that a custom one off piece you made or an uderfolder from something else(AK)?

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Posted 31 October 2009 - 10:51 PM

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Is that a custom one off piece you made or an uderfolder from something else(AK)?

It's an AK under folder, looks like a Yugo to me.

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Posted 31 October 2009 - 11:04 PM

Heh, this idea of Tom's really is sadistic. The AK underfolding stock is pretty uncomfortable even firing 7.62x39, (as compared to other AK stocks). That stock on a 12-gauge firing high-brass... ouch. :sick:

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VanKiller, on 31 October 2009 - 10:58 AM, said:

Joe, do you have a part time job as a "Crash Test Dunny" ?

No but I really dislike my shoulder and I enjoy recoil, why else would someone use a single shot 10 gauge to go after groundhogs :devil:

VanKiller, on 31 October 2009 - 10:58 AM, said:

OK, Keep your eyes peeled for a Saiga range day in Cadiz, and you can come be abused by my inventory..... Posted Image

....but I get the rights to the vids........

As long as I'm abused in a classy fashion...I'm not into that amateur stuff

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Posted 01 November 2009 - 11:19 AM

Not fer me,,, looks nice.. but under folders.. are so damn unforgiving...

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Posted 01 November 2009 - 08:06 PM

I did a Yugo UF on the Wife's S-.410. It works well on the .410, but I don't think you can put enough muzzle brakes on a 12 to keep it from destroying the UF!

P.S. UF clears a factory .410 10rd mag.

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Posted 01 November 2009 - 08:44 PM

LOL..............if you look at the total surface area of the butt of the yugo, then compare it to the surface area of the AMD butt on the folder I used in the vankiller video, I think they are about the same.........So maybe I should do a 12 inch selectfire on the underfolder for the sake of comparision................. Posted Image

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Posted 01 November 2009 - 08:53 PM

Now you're talkin! :super:

BTW...if recoil was too much of a problem for anyone shooting it, a plain ol' AK GL butt pad would fix that, no problem.... :smoke:

I think GOB had the best point...whether or not the folder itself can take it....

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Posted 01 November 2009 - 09:00 PM

Looks like fun! I want to try!

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Posted 01 November 2009 - 09:17 PM

will this be the first time somebody has actually put a underfolder on a s12. ive only ever heard people say the recoil will destroy the stock no actual evidence of it happening.

stamped or milled its all kalashnikov in the middle.

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Posted 02 November 2009 - 10:28 AM

Nice!! I'm not sure how it will play out, but you have definitely done us a favor in the interests of research and development!

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saigafreake, on 01 November 2009 - 09:17 PM, said:

will this be the first time somebody has actually put a underfolder on a s12. ive only ever heard people say the recoil will destroy the stock no actual evidence of it happening.

That's what I was worried about. I believe I've read that they had problems with those stocks on ak's due to recoil. Perhaps some reinforcement, hardening and buffering will take care of that . R & D baby!

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raidersfan_5544, on 31 October 2009 - 10:04 PM, said:

The AK underfolding stock is almost a direct copy of the MP40's. Ya can't say the Russians were'nt paying attention when the Germans invaded.

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Posted 03 November 2009 - 08:46 AM

The Yugo stock is well built. All of the week points are reinforced from the factory, so I think it's going to hold up.
It won't be long till we all find out ....................... Posted Image

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Posted 03 November 2009 - 05:43 PM

what hanguards and trigger guard are you going to put on it.

stamped or milled its all kalashnikov in the middle.

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Posted 03 November 2009 - 06:02 PM

The Yugo's are well made, but I wouldn't do one on the S-12 as the folding mechanism just doesn't look strong enough for it. Hope I am wrong and yours holds up just fine. I did the S-.410 and a bastard parts (no 2 matching parts) AK for the Wife, and both with Yugo's and they came out great, she loves them.

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Posted 04 November 2009 - 09:03 AM

I'll be using my trigger guard and, of course, a Chaos rail ..... Posted Image

saigafreake, on 03 November 2009 - 05:43 PM, said:

what hanguards and trigger guard are you going to put on it.

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Posted 04 November 2009 - 10:08 PM

I want to try it. :super:

I'll even try it out with slugs. :smoke:

I love the looks of the underfolder AK's
Everytime I try one on for size it just feels weird, I bet it will hurt with a 12ga. :chris:

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Posted 06 November 2009 - 10:32 AM

Finished this little monster........
Now to find a crash test dummy................. Posted Image

Actually with the Cutts the recoil is not bad, even with high brass loads.

I think this will be this years hunting gun.......

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Posted 06 November 2009 - 01:49 PM

Lookin good!

Personally, I think that'd look great with one of Red Jacket's "AK Classic" press-on uppers. It'd look just like an AK underfolder.

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Posted 06 November 2009 - 02:08 PM

That looks excellent Tom!
I want one! :up:

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VanKiller, on 06 November 2009 - 10:32 AM, said:

Finished this little monster........
Now to find a crash test dummy................. Posted Image

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Posted 06 November 2009 - 04:15 PM

Maybe I can find someone at the pit this weekend to try it on for size.............. Posted Image

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