This post has been edited by post-apocalyptic: 15 March 2009 - 10:02 PM
Case neck Swelling PICS... Plus range report...
#31
Posted 15 March 2009 - 01:42 PM
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#34
Posted 13 April 2009 - 03:39 PM
gothchick, on Apr 13 2009, 02:29 PM, said:
That makes sense, since the Russian military doesn't use 5.56 NATO, any spent casings found by Russian police are obviously not from Russian military weapons, so no "step" is necessary.
I've since answered my own question from a couple posts above: Arsenal SGL20's do not have this Russian gun control "feature" either. No "steps" in my case necks. It wouldn't have been a big deal either way, but I have to admit that I'm glad my rifle doesn't deform casings like that, (she just dents the shit out of the side of em
This post has been edited by post-apocalyptic: 13 April 2009 - 03:45 PM
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#35
Posted 06 May 2009 - 04:07 PM
Things got interesting when I tried shooting some reloads I'd put together 10 years ago for my now-departed Mini-30. They shot very well also, a little better than the Wolf except for a flyer or two. Then I went looking for the brass (3x reloaded IMI).
Found circumferential case neck cracks in about half of the cases. The cracks were just above the case shoulder in the middle of the bulged area caused by the gun control "feature". The carbine was fired after the rifle and on one case fired in the carbine, the upper part of the neck was missing. That's what got my attention. On checking the other cases fired in the carbine, I found several others that were cracked in the same location. Going back to the cases fired earlier in the rifle, I found cracks on about a third of them, but no neck separations.
There wasn't any gas leakage from the action, nor was there any sign of it on the sides of the cases. Both loads were put together with starting powder charges and felt light when shot. One used a light 110Gr. bullet (shot in rifle) while the other used a heavy 165Gr. bullet (in carbine). Cracking seemed worse with the heavy bullet, but several case necks cracked with each load. None of the Wolf steel cases I retrieved showed any sign of cracking.
So, no more reloads for the Saigas....and maybe no more brass case ammo for the Saigas. I've got a little S&B brass case stuff that I might try, but I'm not buying any more for these guns. Steel case only from now on. Guess I'll have to go find another Mini-30 if I want to shoot those reloads.
This was the only negative in my first outing with these guns. They're actually great little shooters, more accurate than I'd hoped, and neither missed a beat. It's a shame that the single issue came from an "engineered defect".
If you're shooting brass, keep an eye on the cases.
Bob
This post has been edited by 555JM: 06 May 2009 - 04:12 PM
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#36
Posted 06 May 2009 - 04:40 PM

I shoot both reloaded and factory ammo (wolf), the reloads I have done are using Lapua brass, I have reloaded these cases about 5 times each so far - the swelling is completely got rid of by a full length resize and I have had no signs yet that they may crack or anything.
I loads a couple of different types, one slightly reduced to drop under my ranges 2100fps limit and full power loads also.
interesting that you have had cracks on the slight bulge, my only thoughts are either that the chamber marking is maybe deeper on yours? (cant see them using different tooling though) or maybe your brass is a bit brittle or maybe just different - i have IMI cases in 44 mag, and they "feel" different inthe press that the 44 remingtons I have. My brass is new and only been fired in this saiga, cant really see how that may be relevant tbh...
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I buy my wolf for Ј23 per 100, I think your being done over m8! (unless its reloadable brass of course...)
I really dont think that velocity is affected to a degree where its an issue, after all consistency of velocity spread is more important than say losing 5fps or so
just my 2c
This post has been edited by sh00ter: 06 May 2009 - 04:47 PM
#37
Posted 06 May 2009 - 05:46 PM
Steel casings get a (smaller) side dent as well, but they're cheaper and non-reloadable anyway. So, it's steel only from here on out.
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#38
Posted 06 May 2009 - 05:47 PM
There are still 400 unfired IMI cases here from 10 years ago. Glad I didn't order more. Lapua brass is too pricey in the States. Would rather spend the money on Wolf.
Bob
1)Keep a low profile
2)Don't waste ammo
3)Plan for the worst
4)Hope for Change.....
#39
Posted 07 May 2009 - 01:19 AM
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this is one area i havnt rectified yet, i get very small particles of brass that collect just under the chamber, i had attributed it to the magazine lips - as the cases have a fine scratch along the length - i was thinking of slightly polishing the underneath of the feed lips on one magazine and seeing how i go.
ive also read the same thing about annealing cases! have never done so though, will be interesting to hear from you if you do it.
#40
Posted 26 June 2009 - 06:58 AM
#41
Posted 01 August 2009 - 09:03 PM
You would also have to make sure the headspace is right, and that would require chamber go no-go headspace gages and a good gunsmith.
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#43
Posted 18 August 2009 - 12:35 PM
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#45
Posted 22 September 2009 - 07:39 PM
They say the Sun even shines on a dog's ass now and then...
I am going to guess you got either an older barrel matched to the newer rifle, or they made a few that way for a military contract, and the over run went to general production...
either way... ROCK ON! LOL
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#47
Posted 15 November 2009 - 01:09 AM
Sailor
#48
Posted 15 November 2009 - 08:40 AM
I know my S/N on the trunnion looks like a mess by the H. Maybe they were going to stamp one way and went another.
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