[SOPMOD]

BattleRifleG3, on Jul 14 2006, 04:46 PM, said:

An update on the most recent request, I now have a design for a two-piece S-12/S-20 no-gunsmithing handguard. It would likely block the standard sites, and it would not work on models with the adjustable vent rib, but that's the same case as Cobra's, Dinzag's, and all the front end shotgun conversions that I'm aware of. The buyer could, at his discretion, carve a notch with a dremel sander, but I'm not keen on doing it myself and then shipping at the mercy of the USPS.

Have you ever considered doing anything with Micarta or Diamondwood?

I would sorely like a set of charcoal or olive Micarta forend and grip for my M92 Yugo Krinkov;)

[dodgeturbointerceptor]

Also.

Any idea what black substance to paint this with that will simulate black polymer as close as I can????

[BattleRifleG3]

DodgeTI,
I gave you my address for payment via PM. I didn't get your E-mail and the forum mailer isn't enabled.
If you feel like overpaying, vents are a $10 option. It's only this cheap because it's easier to put the vents in a block of wood than a fully formed synthetic handguard with a finish to be careful of.

With the abovementioned frustration understood with no need for explanation, I want to thank you for serving. Certainly not in the same league of some of the careless folk.

SOPMOD,
The issue with exotic wood is that everyone wants something different and I can't plunk down for expensive wood and expect people to pay accordingly without a specific order. If you want to get a hold of this type of wood I would be more than happy to work with you on it.

[dodgeturbointerceptor]

I shall expedite immediately. Thanks for your patience. I jumped on a chance for leave. Looks like we have our orders now. And it's back to the shit-box again for a 3rd time.

Will peruse the pm's, and my e-mail for you or anyone is:

dodgeturbointerceptor@yahoo.com

[BattleRifleG3]

dodgeturbointerceptor, on Jul 14 2006, 09:50 PM, said:

Also.

Any idea what black substance to paint this with that will simulate black polymer as close as I can????

Not sure, but you could see about painting the handguard and buttstock with the same stuff for best match.

[dodgeturbointerceptor]

True. But I have an AK-100 rear folder with export markings that I'd hate to paint over.....

[BattleRifleG3]

That makes all the difference then. Well at least this one will help with parts compliance if you're going with a foreign buttstock.

[dodgeturbointerceptor]

BattleRifleG3, on Jul 17 2006, 01:11 PM, said:

That makes all the difference then. Well at least this one will help with parts compliance if you're going with a foreign buttstock.

Exactly!!!

Wanna build me a complete Dragunov wood clone setup for my Saiga-308 21"?

[BattleRifleG3]

Heck yeah! (long as you can be patient)

[dodgeturbointerceptor]

Quote

Heck yeah! (long as you can be patient)

No Problem! I've had to learn a bit since being into Saigas.

I.e.

Saiga-12 8 round mags from overseas, not to mention buying an AK-100 stock from Andrei/Ruseller.....half arrived in 4 months, the hardware never arrived. LOL

I will pay up-front. Let me know.

[BattleRifleG3]

I was sorely tempted to pick up some blackwood and/or cocobolo today, but as extremely expensive as it is I can't do that without an explicit order.

For now I'm going to tentatively quote for grips:
$40 in teak (add $5 for finger grooves)
$50 in cocobolo (add $10 for finger grooves)
$60 in blackwood (add $15 for finger grooves)

Plus shipping (thankfully based on size and weight, not price.)

Handguards and buttstock are doable in the first two woods, not sure about the third. And here's the kicker - I will have to, in order to be on the safe side, quote a four month lead time.

Now if YOU want to get your hands on some exotic wood and send it to me then everything's different. More normal lead time and I'll count the wood towards price.

[BattleRifleG3]

This grip was made from the knot of a piece of hickory. Extremely hard, wavy grain structure. The colors were really wierd so I stained it heavily and this is the result. I think it turned out ok.
 Stained_Hickory_Grip.JPG (7.65K)
Number of downloads: 16
It's available, but listed on a forum that doesn't allow multilisting. (If you know which one I'm talking about you can check it out there, otherwise PM me if sincerely interested.)

This is the second stock set for a Romak III lover.
 Romakdaddy__s_2.0_set.JPG (50.5K)
Number of downloads: 83

This post has been edited by BattleRifleG3: 29 July 2006 - 11:31 AM

[BattleRifleG3]

A few more items done.

This one is for a Saiga-410, made from white oak. The stock isn't mounted in the receiver the whole way. This one is intended to be a more classic Saiga style all around.
 Classic_Saiga_Set.JPG (55.68K)
Number of downloads: 54

Here's the same stock next to a rifle handguard.
 Classic_oak_set.JPG (28.66K)
Number of downloads: 25

Here are grips for two different orders with a change of scenery. The one on the far left is a Zastava style from white oak. I don't normally include ferrules but the buyer sent me his and I made the grip to fit. Turned out pretty nice if you ask me. The two on the right are made from lyptus and are part of another order. You might be able to guess that one is a replication of the synthetic S-12 style we've been seeing a bit on the boards lately, and one is styled like the Yugo "thin grip." If I had to do them over again I'd not try so hard to stick to the original patterns, but start from one of my patterns and modify a few details.
 3_grips_8_4_06.JPG (24.51K)
Number of downloads: 27

This post has been edited by BattleRifleG3: 05 August 2006 - 09:52 AM

[dodgeturbointerceptor]

Any pics for me BRG3?

[nyclu3]

BRG3,

Actually, I was also interested to know if you also do furniture for other rifles, such as L1A1 furniture in Israeli FN-FAL Heavy barrel style or FNC style. Also if you would endeavor to do other projects on other rifles. Just a thought for the future. Let me recuperate from the S-12 and all its in parts. My L1A1 is a good shooter but the furniture it came with is ugly. Here area few examples:

nyclu3

[BattleRifleG3]

NYCLU, You picked the perfect time to ask. I was considering getting into FALs. What would help a great deal is to take pictures of a complete FAL furniture set with emphasis on attachment points. That would help to estimate prototype pricing.

[dodgeturbointerceptor]

BGR3. Checking in with you. How's the Saiga-12K handguard coming along?

[BattleRifleG3]

It's in progress, but completing orders in the order received, it's waiting for the most aggressive machining. At the moment it looks rather... plain. Very rectangular if I do say so myself.

What this means is that when you're at the head of the line things will move much faster for you, and those behind you will be waiting as patiently.

[BattleRifleG3]

Here are a few recent developments:

This is quite possibly the nicest specimen of my Dragunov style stock, started around the time my beech supply was cut off. The buyer subsequently wanted a matching handguard, and sent the stock back to me for some upgrades. He asked for an AKM style front handguard for ergonomic reasons, but said he wasn't planning on having an upper handguard. Thinking that might be a little awkward, I came up with this expanded design. Integrally retained, complete with AK style sling loop.
 Beech_Saiganov_Set_for_LES.jpg (29.43K)
Number of downloads: 87

Next is an odd one, a fellow wanted a QPG buttstock from me but wanted to see about making the handguard as a project. Since inletting requires machine tools more on my scale than the average home shop, I proposed a "blank" handguard, where I just did the inletting so it could mount, but left all the shaping for the buyer to do to his preferences.
 QPG_w_Blank_HG.JPG (27.63K)
Number of downloads: 45

And last for today, a Galil/Valmet/Zastava style stock set for the Saiga-12. Wow, come to think about it that's every exotic AK in one. Galil style handguard, Valmet style buttstock, Zastava style grip.
 Oak_Galil_Set.JPG (29.85K)
Number of downloads: 44

Additionally, against my better judgement, I picked up some Cocobolo today. Thankfully it was on sale, and I'll be able to offer grips at the same price as Teak ones, $40 each for ungrooved, $50 for grooved. Can also do handguards, but would prefer to stick to the shorter styles such as the Galil style. The piece I have is not large enough for buttstocks, however, so a matching Cocobolo grip and handguard would be best suited if you're using a folding stock. This could be an excellent fit for a Tromix conversion.

This post has been edited by BattleRifleG3: 11 August 2006 - 08:33 PM

[dangerman]

Finally a look at how I'm going to spend next weekend! Thanks for the pic BR! I'll try to get some pics of my friend and I with the work in progress and of course the finished product. He is talking about some proprietary inlay/lamination process that he has had great success with recently. I've seen it in some of his other work and I think that it will be gorgeous. Please mail me with shipping details when you know whats what. Once again, i'm really excited about this great addition to muy beloved S-20!

[RangerM9]

BattleRifleG3, on Aug 11 2006, 08:29 PM, said:

Here are a few recent developments:

This is quite possibly the nicest specimen of my Dragunov style stock, started around the time my beech supply was cut off. The buyer subsequently wanted a matching handguard, and sent the stock back to me for some upgrades. He asked for an AKM style front handguard for ergonomic reasons, but said he wasn't planning on having an upper handguard. Thinking that might be a little awkward, I came up with this expanded design. Integrally retained, complete with AK style sling loop.
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Next is an odd one, a fellow wanted a QPG buttstock from me but wanted to see about making the handguard as a project. Since inletting requires machine tools more on my scale than the average home shop, I proposed a "blank" handguard, where I just did the inletting so it could mount, but left all the shaping for the buyer to do to his preferences.
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And last for today, a Galil/Valmet/Zastava style stock set for the Saiga-12. Wow, come to think about it that's every exotic AK in one. Galil style handguard, Valmet style buttstock, Zastava style grip.
attachment

Additionally, against my better judgement, I picked up some Cocobolo today. Thankfully it was on sale, and I'll be able to offer grips at the same price as Teak ones, $40 each for ungrooved, $50 for grooved. Can also do handguards, but would prefer to stick to the shorter styles such as the Galil style. The piece I have is not large enough for buttstocks, however, so a matching Cocobolo grip and handguard would be best suited if you're using a folding stock. This could be an excellent fit for a Tromix conversion.

DOH!....thought that middle one was mine for a second there!....was getting all excited!


patience is a virture...

[BattleRifleG3]

Here's a sneak preview of things to come, out of an exotic wood I'm really starting to like. Not cheap, but boy is it nice.

 Cocobolo_Grooved_Stoner_Grip.JPG (15.92K)
Number of downloads: 29

[jonathon]

Whats the LOP on this style of stock?



Can it be made 1.5"-2" shorter than a standard S-12 stock? I am wanting to put a rubber recoil pad on one..

Shoot me a quote for the buttstock?

[tokarevsvt]

You do some cool work - I saw you had done PSL/RomakIII stocks - SWING - that caught my attention. I Would like to have a Dragunov style stock like the one you made for the Saiga. I pickup and shoot lefthanded so the factory stock really sucks bad being the that it has the cheek rest only for right handed shooters. I like the heavy look of your design - a stock set in teak would be real cool. Trying to keep a miltary look about the rifle.

[BattleRifleG3]

Question, Tojarev SVT - did I hear from you already via PM or E-mail? If not I'd be happy to be in touch about your furniture needs.

[BattleRifleG3]

Picture's worth a thousand words, so I'll save the words for later.

Stock parts and sets in various stages of completion:

Attached File(s)

•  Maple_S410a.JPG (31.67K)
  Number of downloads: 52
•  Maple_S410b.JPG (33.13K)
  Number of downloads: 31
•  Modernish_Galil_S_12_Set.JPG (32.33K)
  Number of downloads: 37
•  PanAK_Hickory_stock_set.JPG (43.81K)
  Number of downloads: 26
•  S12K_handguard.JPG (34.36K)
  Number of downloads: 16

[tokarevsvt]

BattleRifleG3 - no pm's/emails from me yet, just signed up on the site yesterday. My rifle is being assembled at this time (barrel to receiver). Should have it back shorty.

[tokarevsvt]

Received the call yesterday that my PSL is on its way back from being assembled - A Dragunov style stock would finish the build.

[BattleRifleG3]

This is a one piece AKM-like handguard style for the S-12, along with an AKM style buttstock with a limbsaver recoil pad. The wood is hickory, and the set is a few steps from completion.

Attached File(s)

•  Hickory_S_12_AK_style_set.JPG (29.78K)
  Number of downloads: 16

[Abomanog]

G3 I am looking for a standard fore arm slotted and a Galil style grip for an s-223 How Much? I will be using an ace clamp on front sight any recommendations on wood or options would be ok?
Thanks...
Abomanog...