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1911
http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=185167

Two illegal aliens, Ralphel Resindez 23 and Enrico Garza 26, probably believed they would easily overpower a home alone 11 year old Patricia Harrington after her father had left their two story home.

It seems the two crooks never learned two things, they were in Montana and Patricia had been a clay shooting champion since she was nine. Patricia was in her upstairs room when the two men broke through the front door of the house. She quickly ran to her father's room and grabbed his 12 gauge Mossberg 500 shotgun.

Resindez was the first to get up to the second floor only to be the first to catch a near point blank blast of buck shot from the 11 year olds knee crouch aim. He suffered fatal wounds to his abdomen and genitals. When Garza ran to the foot of the stairs, he took a blast to the left shoulder and staggered out into the street where he bled to death before medical help could arrive.

It was found out later that Resindez was armed with a stolen 45 caliber handgun he took from another home invasion robbery. The victim, 50 year old David Burien, was not so lucky as he died from stab wounds to the chest.
Cobra 76 two
OMG that's fucking awesome!! 027.gif We'll see what kind of coverage that one gets in the media though.
BattleRifleG3
"fatal wounds to the abdomen and genitals"

Fatal wounds to the genitals indeed.

My hero too.
MD_Willington
So does she get charged with anything in Montana for defending herself?

Even if she does, she's a juvenile...


If she was my daughter I'd buy her an S12 !
SuA
lol, she shot em in the nuts...

& MD: i doubt any judge or jury would convict her at that age for what she's done.
Tigerclaw_x
QUOTE (MD_Willington @ May 2 2007, 10:09 AM) *
So does she get charged with anything in Montana for defending herself?

Even if she does, she's a juvenile...


If she was my daughter I'd buy her an S12 !


AWESOME!!!
You see, this will NEVER make to the media, because the girl was obviously racist. She was trained to shoot Mexicans since she was 9. Her dad, obviously prepared her for her future life in mexican extermination. Seriously now. You publish that, and the latinos in US will make a stink of it. They will scream "racist", they will threaten to boycott a station that puts this on the news.
They will play a victim, claiming that "Racists in USA shoot latinos on sight". And since everyone is out to make a buck, nobody wants to lose latinos as customers, even if they are illegal (money do not smell). In fact, my wife, who is working in the bank was told by district managers to open a checking and savings accounts to ANYONE who asks, regardless of their legality status. Even if the only ID they have is Mexcian driver licence. It's business, folks. Money talk, BS walks. Politicians will also be silent, since they do not wish to lose Latino vote. The girl must receive a DSAF award (Did Society A FAVOR), now, those two scumbags will not be paid for by our tax money for their stay in prision, or for their treatment in hospitals or whatever else.
This article raises TWO very importan issues: 1) WHAT KIND OF PEOPLE COME TO USA ILLEGALY (largely an uneducated criminals) and 2) GUNS SAVE LIVES MORE OFTEN THEN THEY ENDANGER THEM.
It raises even a better issue: IF YOU DIDN'T TEACH YOUR KID ABOUT GUNS AND THE RESPONCIBILITY YOU ARE A HORRIBLE PARRENT. Too many people in US have children without any idea or desire to teach, educate and parent them. Such families, when a gun is introduced in them are asking for trouble.

The girl should get an award from Police, to be honest. In 1986 something similar happened in Russia. When a 13 year old girl shot her Azerbaijani assailant who broke into the appartment with her dads 16gauge shotgun. He was a wanted criminal. The Soviet Police gave her a commodation for "Subduing a dangerous criminal" (Of course she subdued him by shooting him point blank with a number 6 buckshot in the abdomen). I only wish that US police rewards the girl for taking yet another pair of criminals off our streets.

TC
Aethelbert
1911 --

Does anyone know when this incident occured? The LibertyPost.org article carried a date but only of the article and not the date/time of the incident. Just curious, as I like to be able to cross the t's and dot the i's when I tell someone about something like this.

Tigerclaw-x mentioned we'd likely never see anything about this on the regular published/broadcast media because it would too easily be twisted into a race/ethnic theme. I suspect this would, indeed, be the case.
MrTuffPaws
Most impressive.
Cobra 76 two
QUOTE (Aethelbert @ May 2 2007, 12:00 PM) *
1911 --

Does anyone know when this incident occured? The LibertyPost.org article carried a date but only of the article and not the date/time of the incident. Just curious, as I like to be able to cross the t's and dot the i's when I tell someone about something like this.

Tigerclaw-x mentioned we'd likely never see anything about this on the regular published/broadcast media because it would too easily be twisted into a race/ethnic theme. I suspect this would, indeed, be the case.


It would even be more true if they were black. Al and Jesse would set up camp there in a heartbeat.

I was saying it wouldn't make the main stream media because a gun was actually used to PREVENT a crime.
MD_Willington
I agree SuA... though there are some of those strange people that believe she should have just been a hospitable victim... I'm not one of those people BTW... The criminals got what they deserved...
1911
QUOTE (Aethelbert @ May 2 2007, 11:00 AM) *
1911 --

Does anyone know when this incident occured? The LibertyPost.org article carried a date but only of the article and not the date/time of the incident. Just curious, as I like to be able to cross the t's and dot the i's when I tell someone about something like this.

Tigerclaw-x mentioned we'd likely never see anything about this on the regular published/broadcast media because it would too easily be twisted into a race/ethnic theme. I suspect this would, indeed, be the case.

I don't know. It cites the source as the NRA Files and as being published on Apr 25, 2007. It is posible that you may read of this in your next issue of The American Rifleman.
Tigerclaw_x
QUOTE (MD_Willington @ May 2 2007, 11:31 AM) *
I agree SuA... though there are some of those strange people that believe she should have just been a hospitable victim... I'm not one of those people BTW... The criminals got what they deserved...


You know what pisses me off? No, not the fact that people on this forum often get offensive or disagree with me. That's ok.
What pisses me off is that I and MY FAMILY had to jump through every loop possible. Banks didn't tell us "Press "7" to speak Russian"
When I applied for jobs people told me "Do you speak english?" and "Bring your green card or Citizenship Certificate" when I applied for work or for mortgage or ANYTHING.
When I spoke Russian in public people who are my friends would tell me "Leave Russian for your house, you are in USA, speak ENGLISH".
I did not break the law by coming here. None of my family members went to school or hospital while being illegal here and forced Americans to pay for the bill.
When I would work, I would not DARE to say "No Englese, por favor, non comprenevue", even when I was a stockman at Woolworth.
These... people come here and not only do they break the law, becoming felons as soon as they come here. They also claim that WE OWE THEM something.
They refuse to assimilate (why should they, when there are plenty places who will do business with them regardless),
they take away jobs. Do not dare to tell me that they "earn less". WHen my parents were building a house for themselves, They first hired one construction company who had bunch of mexicans in it, and those guys were still earning $100 per day. Same as everyone else. Same as the Russians whom we hired instead of them 1 day later. Russians didn't ignore us claiming that "They speak no English", they didn't stop working for 2 hours in the middle of the day claiming that they "having a ciesta" and that we are being "racist" when we told them that 1hour lunch and 2 15min breaks are enough.
I am trying really hard not to be prejudiced against them. However, I know who commits most of the crimes in areas where I live. I also know who are the drug dealers in a local high school (my second cousin goes to Buffalo Grove high). They come here illegaly, demand privileges all while largely continuing their criminal careers.
You do not have doctors from Mexico lining up to cross the borders. Or engineers, or accountants, or car mechanics, or programmers...
That leaves one question: WHAT KIND OF PEOPLE COME HERE FROM THERE??? and WHY SHOULD WE ACCEPT THEM???
I will point out that among immigrants from former USSR and Eastern Europe (Poland) over 75% have at least a 2 year college degree.
1911
Ti zhe znaesh, tak i dolzhno bit

NOT!
Gary
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1911
QUOTE (Gary @ May 2 2007, 12:14 PM) *
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You know, it must be like this
Tigerclaw_x
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QUOTE (Gary @ May 2 2007, 12:14 PM) *
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You know, it must be like this


In theory - no it should not. "Tak ne dolzhno byt". However, you know what they say about the road to hell? The ultralibs are trying to play "nice". To "b kind" to blacks and hispanics.
You know, I tell you this much, I AGREE about helping out black folks. Centuries of slavery and then not having some of the basic rights will NOT help the group to succeed socially and financialy.
Our Founding Fathers and the ancestors of many of the current americans bought, brought and owned slaves. I am not saying about apologies or paying them for damages, thats noncense. However, a social programs that would take kids (both black and white) off the streets and give them something to hope for are definitely needed. However, black folks are just as much of the USA citizens as anyone else.
Mexicans and other latinos are not. They are not US citizens, most of them do not even bother getting a green card, (thus showing a total disrespect for the country that they come into).
Many of them come in sick, putting a burden on our health systems. They refuse not only to learn the language, but to even show basic respect. For example, you do not see me driving my car with Soviet or Russian flag on the hood. However, many mexicans do just that. How many free TV channels are in Russian or Polish or Czech in Chicago? ZERO. How many free Latino channels in Chicago? Two.
How come a bank, when I call them do not say "To speak Russian press "9"". How come all immigrants are equal but some (who came here illegaly and therefore are felons) are more equal then others.?
And people attemt to say that they FIGHT racism by letting those kind of people in? Oh yeah. They may suppress the EXTERNAL show of racism, but they will NEVER suppress the dislike for Latinos where it counts: in jobplace.
I won't even mention of the negative impact that Mexicans have on our culture, as if Black gangsta rap was not enough we now have Latino gangsta rap - same crap but with some spanish thrown in...
I won't even mention that if "days of our lives" was not enough, now we have Mexican soap operas to turn people brains to mush.
Basically, the immigrants must assimilate, even if only externally (most Russians still watch Russian TV, buy Russian food, read Russian books and even play Russian Videogames, however, only at home).
I for example stand by that. I DO preffere Russian books and movies, I DO preffere Russian TV and love Russian music. I do think that Russian food is better. However, I speak english when outside the home, I do not decorate my car with Russian or Soviet flags, and I do not go to "Russian Pride"parade (even if it ever was held). This is an issue of BASIC respect. You LEARN the language to the fullest, SPEAK it in all public places, and DRESS like people around you.
AS I said, I was almost fired by Woolworth because my English was not good enough to do basic customer assistance. The only thing that saved me that in that Woolworth came many Russians and I helped them.
Now, if you go to any Walmart in Chicago land, you will be lucky to find anyone who is able to SPEAK english. You ask them for "Apple Juice" and they say "No vegetables here". Its' true. Happened to me two weeks ago.

Sheesh. Then they wonder why nobody wants to hire them for a higher paid jobs.
1911
QUOTE (Tigerclaw_x @ May 2 2007, 12:59 PM) *
QUOTE (1911 @ May 2 2007, 12:36 PM) *
QUOTE (Gary @ May 2 2007, 12:14 PM) *
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You know, it must be like this


In theory - no it should not. "Tak ne dolzhno byt". However, you know what they say about the road to hell? The ultralibs are trying to play "nice". To "b kind" to blacks and hispanics.
You know, I tell you this much, I AGREE about helping out black folks. Centuries of slavery and then not having some of the basic rights will NOT help the group to succeed socially and financialy.
Our Founding Fathers and the ancestors of many of the current americans bought, brought and owned slaves. I am not saying about apologies or paying them for damages, thats noncense. However, a social programs that would take kids (both black and white) off the streets and give them something to hope for are definitely needed. However, black folks are just as much of the USA citizens as anyone else.
Mexicans and other latinos are not. They are not US citizens, most of them do not even bother getting a green card, (thus showing a total disrespect for the country that they come into).
Many of them come in sick, putting a burden on our health systems. They refuse not only to learn the language, but to even show basic respect. For example, you do not see me driving my car with Soviet or Russian flag on the hood. However, many mexicans do just that. How many free TV channels are in Russian or Polish or Czech in Chicago? ZERO. How many free Latino channels in Chicago? Two.
How come a bank, when I call them do not say "To speak Russian press "9"". How come all immigrants are equal but some (who came here illegaly and therefore are felons) are more equal then others.?
And people attemt to say that they FIGHT racism by letting those kind of people in? Oh yeah. They may suppress the EXTERNAL show of racism, but they will NEVER suppress the dislike for Latinos where it counts: in jobplace.
I won't even mention of the negative impact that Mexicans have on our culture, as if Black gangsta rap was not enough we now have Latino gangsta rap - same crap but with some spanish thrown in...
I won't even mention that if "days of our lives" was not enough, now we have Mexican soap operas to turn people brains to mush.
Basically, the immigrants must assimilate, even if only externally (most Russians still watch Russian TV, buy Russian food, read Russian books and even play Russian Videogames, however, only at home).
I for example stand by that. I DO preffere Russian books and movies, I DO preffere Russian TV and love Russian music. I do think that Russian food is better. However, I speak english when outside the home, I do not decorate my car with Russian or Soviet flags, and I do not go to "Russian Pride"parade (even if it ever was held). This is an issue of BASIC respect. You LEARN the language to the fullest, SPEAK it in all public places, and DRESS like people around you.
AS I said, I was almost fired by Woolworth because my English was not good enough to do basic customer assistance. The only thing that saved me that in that Woolworth came many Russians and I helped them.
Now, if you go to any Walmart in Chicago land, you will be lucky to find anyone who is able to SPEAK english. You ask them for "Apple Juice" and they say "No vegetables here". Its' true. Happened to me two weeks ago.

Sheesh. Then they wonder why nobody wants to hire them for a higher paid jobs.

It scares me when I find something that I agree with you on. 015.gif Go back to being you, it's easier when you play democrat. 021.gif 021.gif
DocV
As much as I would like to believe this story, my B.S. meter is pegged. I searched and couldn't find any other mention of this incident or of the murder of David Burien other than this one article.

DocV
1911
QUOTE (DocV @ May 2 2007, 01:17 PM) *
As much as I would like to believe this story, my B.S. meter is pegged. I searched and couldn't find any other mention of this incident or of the murder of David Burien other than this one article.

DocV

Hiya Doc!

Does this count? http://www.newsnet14.com/?p=4278#more-4278
Tigerclaw_x
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It scares me when I find something that I agree with you on. 015.gif Go back to being you, it's easier when you play democrat. 021.gif 021.gif
[/quote]

Number one. I do NOT play Democrat. I am NOT Democrat, at least I am not Liberal. I happen to agree with Democrats on more issues then I agree with Republicans, that is it.
However,when it comes to GUN RIGHTS I stand with you, when it comes to curbing and stopping immigration I stand with you. When it comes to opposing political correctnes I stand with you.

TC
DocV
QUOTE (1911 @ May 2 2007, 01:26 PM) *
QUOTE (DocV @ May 2 2007, 01:17 PM) *
As much as I would like to believe this story, my B.S. meter is pegged. I searched and couldn't find any other mention of this incident or of the murder of David Burien other than this one article.

DocV

Hiya Doc!

Does this count? http://www.newsnet14.com/?p=4278#more-4278


Hey 1911! (One of my favorite dates)

Nope, doesn't count. It's a repeat of the same article. I would find it more believable if there was some mention in a Montana newspaper or TV station of either Patricia's story or the murder of Mr. Burien.

Like I said, My mind wants to believe it, but my gut...

DocV
Mike Davidson
QUOTE (MD_Willington @ May 2 2007, 11:09 AM) *
So does she get charged with anything in Montana for defending herself?

Even if she does, she's a juvenile...


If she was my daughter I'd buy her an S12 !

Ithink in Montana she will be able to stuff them and put them by the fireplace. She will at least get to stand them up on the front porch in a coffin on end for a few days. She's good to go. I would say the local news is patting her on the back(like she deserves). 027.gif
Mike Davidson
QUOTE (Mike Davidson @ May 2 2007, 02:59 PM) *
QUOTE (MD_Willington @ May 2 2007, 11:09 AM) *
So does she get charged with anything in Montana for defending herself?

Even if she does, she's a juvenile...


If she was my daughter I'd buy her an S12 !

Ithink in Montana she will be able to stuff them and put them by the fireplace. She will at least get to stand them up on the front porch in a coffin on end for a few days. She's good to go. I would say the local news is patting her on the back(like she deserves). 027.gif


Edit: If it's true.
Cobra 76 two
[/quote]

Number one. I do NOT play Democrat. I am NOT Democrat, at least I am not Liberal. I happen to agree with Democrats on more issues then I agree with Republicans, that is it.
However,when it comes to GUN RIGHTS I stand with you, when it comes to curbing and stopping immigration I stand with you. When it comes to opposing political correctnes I stand with you.

TC
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Well Tigerclaw, you and I will get along fine then as long as we don't argue...lol.

In the area where I live blacks are just as big a problem as hispanics, just in different ways.

At least we don't have Latino history month every other month around here or a Chavez Blvd in every fucking town...yet...
Mike Davidson
QUOTE (Tigerclaw_x @ May 2 2007, 02:42 PM) *
Number one. I do NOT play Democrat. I am NOT Democrat, at least I am not Liberal. I happen to agree with Democrats on more issues then I agree with Republicans, that is it.
However,when it comes to GUN RIGHTS I stand with you, when it comes to curbing and stopping immigration I stand with you. When it comes to opposing political correctnes I stand with you.

TC

Are you sure you agree more with what liberals stand for? Here are some more things to consider. Do you favor a larger or smaller military? The right stand by larger. Do you favor a larger or smaller goverment? Right stands for a smaller goverment. Do you think a rich working man should have a higher tax 50% compared to around a average of 30% for middle class? (Some people say the rich should pay more because they have it. Keep in mind that if a rich man was taxed the same and makes a million dollars he would be paying around $300,000 in taxes for the year which IS a lot more than most pay a yr.

If your interested there are somemore questions to ask yourself. I have found that a good part of Democrats I've talked to was more Republican at heart and didn't even know it.
guido2
It would even be more true if they were black. Al and Jesse would set up camp there in a heartbeat.

Hello, Cobra

You appear to have the good fortune of not having to listen to the drivel spewed by LULAC (League of United Latin American Citizens).
If I never hear how "crimigrants" civil rights are being infringed upon again, it will be too soon.....Although to my simple mind, it certainly seems that being a criminal immigrant supercedes your "constitutionally justified civil rights". Sounds more like an oxymoron to me....

Respectfully posted,
guido2 in Houston
Aethelbert
QUOTE (1911 @ May 2 2007, 01:12 PM) *
Ti zhe znaesh, tak i dolzhno bit



Say what?!?!?

Sorry. But my operating vocabulary of Russian is limited to a doggerel form of broken Russian where I hail the waitress ('scuse me -- I mean 'server') and tell her

"Eto zhukoi. Cofeei. Tree puchinya. Spasiva!" (Intended meaning: I am dry. Coffee and three cookies. Thank you!)
Aethelbert
QUOTE (1911 @ May 2 2007, 02:26 PM) *
QUOTE (DocV @ May 2 2007, 01:17 PM) *
As much as I would like to believe this story, my B.S. meter is pegged. I searched and couldn't find any other mention of this incident or of the murder of David Burien other than this one article.

DocV

Hiya Doc!

Does this count? http://www.newsnet14.com/?p=4278#more-4278


Hmm. Not sure that counts as confirmation. First noted that this article was about a week older than the originally cited article and the wording was identical. I then noted that they cited 'sources'. Clicked on that link and -- behold! -- I was at the article from LibertyPost.com.
Tigerclaw_x
QUOTE (Mike Davidson @ May 2 2007, 02:29 PM) *
QUOTE (Tigerclaw_x @ May 2 2007, 02:42 PM) *
Number one. I do NOT play Democrat. I am NOT Democrat, at least I am not Liberal. I happen to agree with Democrats on more issues then I agree with Republicans, that is it.
However,when it comes to GUN RIGHTS I stand with you, when it comes to curbing and stopping immigration I stand with you. When it comes to opposing political correctnes I stand with you.

TC

Are you sure you agree more with what liberals stand for? Here are some more things to consider. Do you favor a larger or smaller military? The right stand by larger. Do you favor a larger or smaller goverment? Right stands for a smaller goverment. Do you think a rich working man should have a higher tax 50% compared to around a average of 30% for middle class? (Some people say the rich should pay more because they have it. Keep in mind that if a rich man was taxed the same and makes a million dollars he would be paying around $300,000 in taxes for the year which IS a lot more than most pay a yr.

If your interested there are somemore questions to ask yourself. I have found that a good part of Democrats I've talked to was more Republican at heart and didn't even know it.


Yes, I am quite sure.
DO I stand for smaller military? YES!!!! We do not need all those nuclear carrers, attack subs and missile cruisers. Japanese Imperial Navy ain't going to threaten us, neither will Soviet.
We do not need all those heavy Armored Divisions. Soviet "Armored Hordes" have largely rusted away. We do not need a military built to fight wars of 1940s and 1980s. We need a small, highly trained and mobile force. An F22 or F35 is just the thing we need to fight a sniper in Baghdad. A Nimitz class carrier is just the thing to hunt for Osama or Taliban. And Seawolf missile submarine is just the thing against an IED. All this is just YOUR money being given by republicans to their friends who own stock in Military Industrial Complex.

Do I stand for larger government? NO!!! Then again take a look how much the government have been increased under Bush the 2nd.

Do I stand for higher taxes for rich? YES!!! You can't get rich by doing a honest working. You can't become a gazillioneer by beeing a Sysadmin, a Doctor, car mechanic, engineer, research scientist, nurse, construction worker, an architect, an X ray tech, a researh assistant, a tech support specialist, or a Professor in University. Heck, even an owners of local restaurants are not billionaires. Are we to say that some idiot who produces NOTHING and only buys and resells realistate is more important then a doctor or a teacher? NO!!!!
A professor of genetics at UIC makes only about $50000 a year. That isn't rich. A carpenter makes about the same. That ain't rich. I say tax the living hell out of anyone whos family income is over $500000 a year.
There is NO SUCH THING as "hard working rich". Tax the bastards through the roof!!!! The RICH do not pay taxes, trust me, there are so many tricks and write off open to you if you own a business or rental properties that you wouldn't even believe. I won't even talk that the corporations enjoy all the rights of individuals without any responsibility of thereoff.

Abortions: I SUPPORT THE RIGHT FOR AN ABORTION. (Democrat)

GAY RIGHTS: They have the right to remain silent and do whatever they want to each other in the privacy of their own homes. Nothing more. Nothing else. (Moderate Republican)

AFFIRMATIVE ACTION: I am for equality of races and genders. Not on the prefferencial treatment. (Moderate Republican).

FREEDOM OF SPEECH: I support that whole heartedly. Political correctness must die (Democrat).

CIVIL RIGHTS: I oppose domestic surveilance with all my heart. Believing it to be a step to become a fascist police state ruled by corporations (Democrat).

RIGHT TO BEAR ARMS: You should have the right to have anything you want. Up to and including a 30mm cannon. (Republican)

RELIGION: Religion has no place in the federal and state government buildings. "So help me God", "One nation under God" are to be removed. (Democrat). My wife is a pagan. Why nobody cares about her religious feelings?

MIDDLE CLASS: I am for tax breaks for those who make under $30000 per person. (Democrat)

CORPORATION: I am for strict control of the corporations by the government and break up of any monopolies (Democrat).

HEALTH CARE: I am for federal health care (Democrat).

EDUCATION: I am for free education in state schools (Democrat).

FREE AFTER SCHOOL ACTIVITIES: I am for all those, keeps the kids off the street and gives them something to do (Democrat).

ENVIRONMENT: I am for clean environment. I even would propose to impose a tax on people who own a non environmental friendly cars (unless such cars are needed for work). I am against cutting down forests for developing. And yes, I DO recycle. (Democrat)

IMMIGRATION: CLOSE THE BORDER FOR THE ILLEGALS. Deport the illegals, let only "desirables" in. (Patriot)



Do you know why american right is so much against marijuana? Because american right, owns a lot of land where trees are harvested from. Marijuana plants are 5 times more efficient in making such thigns as paper, and would turn the entire wood harvesting industry into dust.

Any more questions? I am more democrat then republican. You will ask me where would I take the money for the programs?? From the military spendings. Put two aircraft carriers in reserve and see how much money will you find. Disband 1 armored and 1 heavy infantry division and see how much money you will save. USSR put everything they could into the military. It didn't do anything good to their people.

Any more questions?
S12.308NSC
Democrats are pro freedom of speech and anti-PC? I thought it was the other way around LOL, didn't democrats invent/start the whole PC thing? Who knows.

I think talking/arguing about democrat vs. republican is pointless though, in my opinion there is no difference. Both sides pretend like there's a difference during election years and pick a few points to take opposite sides on and argue about. They do their damndest to keep a third party out of the feeding trough. Then, when they get elected they all do what the money tells them to do, democrat or republican, liberal or conservative. Money runs things here.

All these pointless labels. I just want to be left alone and allowed to do what I want to do. I promise not to bother anyone or stop them from doing what they want to do unless they infringe on my right to do the same.

I guess that makes me a Libertarian. tongue.gif
44rdv4rk
QUOTE (S12.308NSC @ May 3 2007, 04:28 PM) *
Democrats are pro freedom of speech and anti-PC? I thought it was the other way around LOL, didn't democrats invent/start the whole PC thing? Who knows.

I think talking/arguing about democrat vs. republican is pointless though, in my opinion there is no difference. Both sides pretend like there's a difference during election years and pick a few points to take opposite sides on and argue about. They do their damndest to keep a third party out of the feeding trough. Then, when they get elected they all do what the money tells them to do, democrat or republican, liberal or conservative. Money runs things here.

All these pointless labels. I just want to be left alone and allowed to do what I want to do. I promise not to bother anyone or stop them from doing what they want to do unless they infringe on my right to do the same.

I guess that makes me a Libertarian. tongue.gif



yes sir, it does! welcome to the club. 027.gif
DocV
Ahem! Getting back on topic. I did a net search of all the Montana newspapers I could find that had websites and archives. Not a single mention of the young lady or the gentleman who was murdered.



DocV
1911
QUOTE (DocV @ May 3 2007, 06:41 PM) *
Ahem! Getting back on topic. I did a net search of all the Montana newspapers I could find that had websites and archives. Not a single mention of the young lady or the gentleman who was murdered.



DocV

Well crap! Another perfectly good story shot down. Some things I just prefer to be ignorant about. At least it shone a little sunlight on us for awhile. I still enjoy all the American Rifleman stories of folks who used a firearm to defend themselves. Thanks for the research Doc, better to not be promulgating falsehood even if it does sound delightful. smile.gif

1911
guido2
Well, this young hero may not live in Montana or the news accounts or even in reality, but she lives in my mind, dammit!
She's STILL my hero!

Respectfully posted,
guido2 in Houston
Aethelbert
QUOTE (guido2 @ May 6 2007, 06:30 PM) *
Well, this young hero may not live in Montana or the news accounts or even in reality, but she lives in my mind, dammit!
She's STILL my hero!

Respectfully posted,
guido2 in Houston


Just as Paul Bunyan lives in my mind as my hero.
RI_shotgunner
She sure busted his "clays". Brave girl, and a quick thinker
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