Help - Search - Members - Calendar
Full Version: Toy Gun Ban
forum.Saiga-12.com > WELCOME > General Discussion - Any topic is welcome here!!!
1911
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,354071,00.html

Lawmakers are claiming that toy guns are a danger to police & citizens. "Tennessee lawmakers are considering a proposal by state Rep. John Deberry to make it a misdemeanor to intentionally display or expose "an imitation firearm in a public place in a threatening manner." Exceptions include justifiable self defense, lawful hunting, and displays such as a museum collection" Tell me how in the world you are going to use a toy gun for "justifiable defense & lawful hunting"?

"National Rifle Association spokesman Ashley Varner said anti-toy gun legislation is "silly" because "it doesn't deal with issues of crime."
"It won't eradicate the human element of the crime," she said. "It doesn't target getting criminals off the street." I can agree with that!

It strikes me that they are trying to destroy the so called gun "culture" or simply breed us out.

It they can eliminate kids playing "Cowboys and Indians" or "Cops and Robbers" or "Soldier" then perhaps they will never acquire a desire for firearms or view them in a bid light. Ever feel like there is no end to the mischief lawmakers can be up to?

1911


SaigaNoobie
"One of the imitation weapons I got at a convenience store looked very much like the assault weapons that the secret service and other FBI agents carry under their suits," he said. "Another one was a handgun that had a silencer on it."

In other news, FBI agents have started carrying ASSAULT weapons under their suits.

Also, Plastic guns too loud, children deafening parents! Tennessee calls for Silencers for these noise toys!
rd99fxdl
Here in the Detroit area last week,some guy was robbing a gas station with a pistol with the barrel tip painted red to look like a toy gun.The clerk went to fight him for it and got shot.
Criminals dont care about any laws,they use them against us most of the time anyways.

Gunfixr
QUOTE (rd99fxdl @ May 9 2008, 12:53 PM) *
Here in the Detroit area last week,some guy was robbing a gas station with a pistol with the barrel tip painted red to look like a toy gun.The clerk went to fight him for it and got shot.
Criminals dont care about any laws,they use them against us most of the time anyways.


I thought several years ago that it would be ideal to try to make a real gun look like a toy by painting the muzzle red or orange, if I was a criminal, of course. I haven't actually done it. I see, though, that someone else had the same idea, and carried it out.
waltham_41
Its sad, but I can see some cop getting killed because he took the split second to see if the 13 yr old kid was carrying a toy glock or a real one.

Todays kids dont play cowboys and indians, GI Joe or cops and robbers. They play gangsta and bust a cap in your ass.

There is a problem, maybe they ought to make toy guns look like ray guns or something so there is no mistake that they are not real.
1911
"Todays kids dont play cowboys and indians, GI Joe or cops and robbers. They play gangsta and bust a cap in your ass."
That is indeed sad if true.
1911
dayan inikhaton
Just for shits & giggles I unscrewed the orange tip of my airsoft AK-47, and tried screwing it on my WASR-10 after removing the wedge muzzle brake. PERFECT FIT. I would still get a second glance for carrying the thing in public, but if I was ever to be challenged by police and remove the airsoft magazine (which also fits), unless they actually handle the weapon for themselves they might buy it.

That said and done, I was involved in a near shooting over an airsoft weapon about 2 years ago when posted to an office building. 2 grown men were doing some 'wrastlin' in a car, as I ran over thinking it a real fight- one pulled a real enough looking pistol. he about wet himself when I drew my very real 40 caliber on him

"It fake dog, it FAKE!"
waltham_41
QUOTE (1911 @ May 9 2008, 10:56 PM) *
"Todays kids dont play cowboys and indians, GI Joe or cops and robbers. They play gangsta and bust a cap in your ass."
That is indeed sad if true.
1911


From what you generally see on the news and such, my guess is that it is most likely along the right line.


Kids killing each other at 9, 10 years old. 10 years olds taking guns to school to kill teachers, We didnt do that back in the days of our cap guns and cowboy hats.

When I was a kid, (long ago) if a cop car drove by us while we were shooting caps at each other, one side wearing cowboy hats, the other dressed as indians, they smiled

Now when a cop drives by kids with something that looks like guns, I would bet their rear ends pucker because they are on alert that actual gunfire may erupt.

Edited for mispelled word
rd99fxdl
Part of that trouble is that most kids arent taught about guns any more.They see the shit on the tv and the parents try to shield them from it without explaining why what they saw on the news wasnt right.Then they see how everything turns out ok in video games and dont understand the difference.
Its all back to the forbidden fruit thing.

waltham_41
Saw this article and thought of this thread, pretty sad actually.

Girl, 3, shot with handgun

Last Update: 5/11 6:16 pm

Graphic: Russell Mills LAWTON, Okla. (AP) - Police say a 3-year-old girl is being treated for injuries after a 5-year-old boy accidentally shot her in the leg with a handgun he found in a northwest Lawton home.

Police Capt. Jackie LaRoche says police responded to the home about 1 p.m. Saturday and discovered the girl had been shot with a .45-caliber handgun.

The girl was airlifted to a Fort Worth, Texas, hospital, but LaRoche says her injuries are not believed to be life-threatening.

Police believe the boy thought the gun was a toy and fired it at the girl.

LaRoche says there were adults present at the time, but no arrests were immediately made.
SaigaNoobie
If you teach your kids that this is a REAL gun and will HURT or KILL someone, then they can make a judgement, be it a child's judgement. But if you hide it from them, then they are going to think it's a toy when they first see it.

Kids are curious by nature and will pick up anything that's new to them in order to study it and learn.... if they study and learn in an unsupervised fashion, bad things might happen...

You wouldn't let your child learn to swim on his own, but you teach them to swim so they can be safe around water.... Teach them how to shoot so they'll be safe around guns.
macbeau
rolleyes.gif Sheesh! And then you have NYC Mayor Bloombutt going after Lauer Custom for making paint that makes real guns look like toys... There's just no pleasing some people... rolleyes.gif rolleyes.gif rolleyes.gif
Gaddis
Bullshit, what a cop-out. You can usually tell the difference between a toy gun and real one just by the weight of it. angry.gif

Just like all those f**kers who try to beat shooting raps by saying some bullshit to the investigators like "the gun just went off accidentally on me." 018.gif

Well, then asshole, you *SOULDN'T HAVE* been pointing it at somebody then, right? rolleyes.gif

Every gun I have ever shot (even with half-assed, unskilled trigger mutilation hack jobs on them) usually still took some bit of effort to make it go off. 022.gif

Besides, if the kid had been exposed to safe gun handling procedures, he wouldn't have been pointing it at the girl in the first place. Another thing I blame on the FU "scared rabbit" liberal education system. 016.gif
uzitiger
When I was growing up the squirt guns made by Park looked like the Luger, P-38 and PPK while the scution cup dart guns looked like Colt 1911 pistol. Most cap guns looked like single action revolvers and Mattel made the M-16.

We knew the difference between real and toy guns. While I had no real guns in the house we knew that playing won't kill anyone. These anti gun Nazis want to remove any trace of guns even toy ones to psychologically castrate today's boys so they'll grow up to be good goose stepping leftists and instill gun phobia in them. This is as bad as the idiot asshole school principal who expelled boys for playing cops and robbers and pretended their hands were gun or the one who expelled a child for drawing a gun on paper. Their lame excuse was 'zero tolerance'.

We played cops and robbers, cowboys and Indians and soldiers and nobody got hurt from it because we knew the difference between real and toy guns even if we didn't see real ones.

SaigaNoobie is right, children need to know the difference between a toy and a real gun and how to be safe with guns.
This is a "lo-fi" version of our main content. To view the full version with more information, formatting and images, please click here.
Invision Power Board © 2001-2009 Invision Power Services, Inc.