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Brown Berets de Aztlan are recruiting and forming new chapters



It's funny how they can try this in OUR country but they can't try it in theirs to take control and make their government take care of them. (We all know that their government wouldn't allow it. Let's see if our's does.)

Let the civil wars begin.....

by
Ernesto Cienfuegos
La Voz de Aztlan

Los Angeles, Alta California - May 1, 2008 - (ACN) "The Brown Berets de Aztlan have undertaken an active campaign to recruit more soldiers and form new chapters throughout Aztlan," said Chairman David Rico yesterday. "We will be having a series of presentations throughout the Southwest starting in San Diego on May 8, 2008," he added.

David Rico is one of the original founders of the Brown Berets in California and was one of the Brown Beret soldiers that seized and took over land in Barrio Logan in San Diego that later became, the now world famous, "Chicano Park".

In the first presentation in San Diego, David Rico and other Brown Berets will be speaking on what it takes to be a Brown Beret de Aztlan, what the organization believes in and on future plans. They will also be answering questions.

The first presentation is scheduled for May 8, 2008 from 6:30-9:00 p.m. at the Centro Cultural de La Raza located in Balboa Park at 2125 Park Blvd, San Diego.

After the recruitment campaign, the Brown Berets de Aztlan will be organizing caravans to the state of Arizona where our community is presently under siege by racists and other anti-immigrant elements.

http://www.aztlan.net/brown_berets_de_aztlan.htm


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patriot
Caravan or armed column?

Maybe we'll get lucky and some enterprising soul will make it a target of opportunity?
nsa400
Im wondering how LE is going to handle this with out being called racist? Our government has not done a f@!#ing thing about illegals this is bull!!!



AllJacks
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macbeau
(Done to the tune of "Ballad of the Green Beret" By SSG Barry Saddler - 1966)

Fighting Soldiers, from Mexi-Land,
We eat frijoles, from a can...
Hombres who work, just by the day...
Those crazy vatos, in the Brown Beret

Put Chicken wings, with my combo plate,
Please hurry up - I can't wait.
More chips and salas, por favor...
And dos Coronas - if you please, Senor...

Skilled to work, our landscaped land,
Will make tortillias - all by hand..
We'll re-do you roof, for a little pay,
You can build your fence, we won't go away...

Hey!
Are these Chicken wings, on my combo plate?,
They look thin - is that pidgeon I ate?.
Hey! Where's the dog, your burritos look fine!...
But I think I see, a flea collar in mine...

Back en casa, Namoradas wait...
Their trabajador's, they have to work late.
They'll all pile in, to the truck when done,
To Taco Bell, they'll make a border run ...

Slow down your truck - We work like slave!.
And all you'll pay us, is $10 bucks a day...
We'll be the men, who'll work today...
But tomorrow, we'll be a Brown Beret!
ReverendFranz
A friend of mine had a poster that read (in spanish) There are no Chicanos in Mexico - Only Mexicans. Its very true and I always refer to that idea when things like this come up.

There are no Chicanos in America either - only Americans.

guido2
WTF?
I think you lost me there, Sir.....
guido2 in Houston

QUOTE (ReverendFranz @ May 17 2008, 02:07 PM) *
A friend of mine had a poster that read (in spanish) There are no Chicanos in Mexico - Only Mexicans. Its very true and I always refer to that idea when things like this come up.

There are no Chicanos in America either - only Americans.

rocinante
macbeau that was entertaining.

I don't know what to say about those guys. The chicas looked good in their short skirt uniforms though.
uzitiger
QUOTE (ReverendFranz @ May 17 2008, 03:07 PM) *
A friend of mine had a poster that read (in spanish) There are no Chicanos in Mexico - Only Mexicans. Its very true and I always refer to that idea when things like this come up.

There are no Chicanos in America either - only Americans.


There are a lot of illegal aliens in America in addition to Americans. This is what the so called Palestinians' did in Israel under the Israeli government's eyes and they did nothing either while they raised a terrorist army.

If they want to start taking over parts of this country by force a lot of people are going to say no to them and they're going to find our put to good use. We don't need this, I lived in the LA area and I'm not going to tolerate this shit.
ReverendFranz
the palestinian israeli comparison seems backwards to say the least, but ill drop that immediately.

the poster (on the wall of a proud american one generation out of mexico) was pointing out the fact that the chicano movement is silly and missguided. There are no chicanos in mexico, only in america. its not even a spanish word. Its a silly college students movement that rose out of MEChA's attempt to create some sort of social unity among its own minority.

My point, and where i lost you, im sure was that there are mexicans, citizens of mexico, and there are americans, citizens of america. there, are, im sure, even those with dual citizenship, but even they arent Chicano, and would probably laugh at you if you brought it up. The Chicano movement is incredibly misguided, a tool of division, both between mexico and america, and oddly enough, an American invention, not supported by Mexicanos any more than the concept of Aztlan is anything more than a literary device and myth.

Deal with them the same way you deal with other misguided and silly college social movements. Like PETA.
guido2
Hello, ReverendFranz
PETA isn't trying to steal my Country, my job, my children's future, my culture, or depreciate my home values. They aren't known for driving unlicensed and un-insured and often under some degree of inebriation, along with the above-mention lack of insurance, etc.
As far as I know, they don't overlook a "culture" of child molestation. They also don't make their first act as a "temporary American" an illegal one. And one difference in "silly college movements" is the "college" thing, misguided or no, at least they have some education. Not 19th century workers in a 21 century workforce. Or worse yet, a virtual boat-anchor around the neck of our children in public schools who actually want to be educated, and have the tools to do so.

Most specifically, PETA can be easily ignored. The above is a bit more difficult...

I see you are from Arizona, why should I have to explain this to you?

Rant off, again...

Respectfully posted,
guido2 in Houston

QUOTE (ReverendFranz @ May 17 2008, 08:36 PM) *
the palestinian israeli comparison seems backwards to say the least, but ill drop that immediately.

the poster (on the wall of a proud american one generation out of mexico) was pointing out the fact that the chicano movement is silly and missguided. There are no chicanos in mexico, only in america. its not even a spanish word. Its a silly college students movement that rose out of MEChA's attempt to create some sort of social unity among its own minority.

My point, and where i lost you, im sure was that there are mexicans, citizens of mexico, and there are americans, citizens of america. there, are, im sure, even those with dual citizenship, but even they arent Chicano, and would probably laugh at you if you brought it up. The Chicano movement is incredibly misguided, a tool of division, both between mexico and america, and oddly enough, an American invention, not supported by Mexicanos any more than the concept of Aztlan is anything more than a literary device and myth.

Deal with them the same way you deal with other misguided and silly college social movements. Like PETA.

ReverendFranz
You don't have to explain anything to me sir, and im well aware of the problems the southwest has seen with the housing construction boom and now its crash, and the resulting influx of workers. its devastating, for alot of people. Im just clarifying the distinction between mexican crimigrants who want nothing more than money and think the american (sorta) way is the best to get it, and the political Chicano movement, which is a student movement of first, second and third generation americans (primarily, though that term is loose, as alot of students were brought here as children, i just dont think they qualify as imigrants, as they didnt chose to come here). To tie the rhetoric of one into the other is silly and missguided especially when many people are mislead as to what the rhetoric is. Again, mexicans never heard of Aztlan for the most part, nor would they call themselves Chicano, or want to "Reclaim the Chicano homeland" They are mexicans. Now, that isnt to say that these americans who call themselves Chicanos wouldnt like to see a larger spanish speaking immigrant population to push there Brown Power hispanic nationalism, but lets face it, they dont have the power to do much about any of it. If you want to blame someone for the immigration problem, look to the economy, and those in charge of it, not MEChA, which i stated is a college organization.

Glenn Spencer, of the American Patrol, is the source of the ENTIRE myth of the current "reconquista," either out of malice or ignorance. It was nothing more than rhetoric before then (and not to annex the southwest to mexico, but to unite americans of mexican heritage) and its nothing more than rhetoric now, (to push foreward Nativist politics)

The truth is that Aztlan is a spiritual, and not political idea set foreward by a poet named Alurista in the late 60's or early seventies. He later wrote:

“People call California, Arizona, Nueva Mexico and Colorado, Aztlán, but really, Aztlán is wherever we are. We don’t recognize borders. It’s more a matter of cultural/political identity. When I say this is our land, I don’t mean that we own it. "

Aztlan was a spiritual concept which was meant to unite Americans of mexican heritage in a united civil rights movement. Latinos throughout the US were very divided because they had very different and distinct cultures from state to state. At that time we arent even talking about immigrants as we had practically open borders, and very little movement across them then and these are all families that were "anexxed" so to speak, by the united states, first as the republic of texas, and the war with mexico. they were very seperate, and distinct comunities, and as civil rights became and issue nationaly, and with several different groups, activists were looking for a way to unite them behind a common goal. Before the Chicano Movement there was no concept that united them. In other words, “Aztlan,” is spiritual concept that those people who are american, but didnt feel that they fit into the culture of a whitebread america are still a people that have a homeland, people who belong where they were born and live. Its connection to immigration is practicly nil.

Im not saying your assertation that mexican immigration is detrimental to the united states is incorrect, but you should look at who is really to blame, and know all the facts before we form an army to go beat up a bunch of dorky college kids in french hats. 021.gif

Besides, PETA IS trying to steal my right to own a dog, hunt, eat hamburgers, wear a coat in the winter (all 30 minutes of it) or use new medical technology. Please dont discount, or ignore this threat. 022.gif

I have the hunch that you have strong feelings on the crimigrant issue, so Im sure we wont agree, but im always glad to be able to discuss relevant issues with people who arent drooling on the themselves as they watch Al Gore on TV. Besides, if you are right, you will be better served with more information.

Ever a soldier, till the war is won.

QUOTE (guido2 @ May 18 2008, 01:06 AM) *
Hello, ReverendFranz
PETA isn't trying to steal my Country, my job, my children's future, my culture, or depreciate my home values. They aren't known for driving unlicensed and un-insured and often under some degree of inebriation, along with the above-mention lack of insurance, etc.
As far as I know, they don't overlook a "culture" of child molestation. They also don't make their first act as a "temporary American" an illegal one. And one difference in "silly college movements" is the "college" thing, misguided or no, at least they have some education. Not 19th century workers in a 21 century workforce. Or worse yet, a virtual boat-anchor around the neck of our children in public schools who actually want to be educated, and have the tools to do so.

Most specifically, PETA can be easily ignored. The above is a bit more difficult...

I see you are from Arizona, why should I have to explain this to you?

Rant off, again...

Respectfully posted,
guido2 in Houston
Norseman
I guess I am glad I live in NH, there don't seem to be any illegal canadians here.

-E

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