Hi,

I've seen the post about your Saiga 12, and i wonder if you've the time and opportunity to take some pictures of this shotgun for me, please?

In fact, it's to create a full 3D replica call "render" that you see in video games as Call of Duty 4 by instance:
http://img222.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hk416be8.jpg
http://img45.imageshack.us/img45/491/usasmdlwip3aa5.jpg
http://img502.imageshack.us/my.php?image=m16a2cr4.jpg
Mostly of the 2d/3d artists who create these renders need good references pics of real firearms under various angles of views.
So, the goal of my site is to share freely the best pics to help them in their work: http://www.pixagogo.com/DeicideNBF
That's why i need pictures in high resolution (~2000x1500) from a strict "orthographic" point of view (as a blueprint) and not blurred, if possible.

I would like these views, plz:

Full sides : Right, left


Close-ups:

-Buttstock: Right, left, top, bottom, rear (buttplate)

-Grip and trigger: Right, rear, bottom

-Receiver: Right, left, top, bottom, rear (top cover opening button)

-Ejection port (open/close) : Right

-Chamber visible as showed here: http://img440.imageshack.us/my.php?image=b...3chamberni7.jpg
+ Another one, same pov with mag loaded (+1 rd)

-Magwell: Bottom

-Forearm and forward grip: Right, top, bottom

-Sights: Rear, right, top, front

-Barrel: Right, front (muzzle)

-Mag: Right, rear, bottom, top (follower full/empty)


You can send me all the pictures directly here: deamon3@hotmail.com
Or upload from this site if you prefer: www.yousendit.com

Of course, all the pics will be stored on my site with the SN hidden.

Thanks in advance for your help, from me and all the 2D/3D community artists: http://www.game-artist.net/forums/

Best regards,

Christophe

Somehow I just don't feel this is being done for the fun of it, so I don't think I will take the time to provide high resolution photographs for free so someone else can make money.

Somehow I just don't feel this is being done for the fun of it, so I don't think I will take the time to provide high resolution photographs for free so someone else can make money.

So you're not going to help him?

I don't know a damn thing about it, but I am willing to bet there is money involved in it..

Nope, you're wrong. Serious gamers make these skins and send them off to the production company. Unless he is making his own mod, he ain't making shit. They are just trying to enhance the game. I can't believe you'd be so shitty about this. Hell if he just needs pics for the mechanical aspect, I'll do it.

if its for a game, or other "for profit" enterprise, charge him for the pics...... and get a credit...... hell yeah, if he's makin a buck, why not?

I just said it's non profit, he's more than likely doing it for a game modification or just because.

Second Life doesn't need detailed Saiga-12 models, does it? I mean, firearms aren't even incorporated as far as i know. And a game with terrible graphics like that just wouldn't need anything more detailed than a black stick with a smaller black stick on the bottom.

To stay realistic, there's 99% chanse it's a non-profit project.

Zak, how about you ask him what he needs it for? (EDIT: Reading through the post a bit more carefully, he already stated why he needs it. That's reasonable. Go see his site, and if you feel comfortable with having a gallery like that added about your Saiga then go for it.)

From articles I've read, people have made guns of all kinds. You can't fire them, but they're still popular. Just goes to show, you don't know everything about the gaming industry and every way to make money in it.

From the articles you've read, eh? Just for the record, i KNOW second life. I tried it. I didn't say for a second you can't sell model guns in it, i just said a game that's technically so crap does not demand model detail like that, in fact it would draw even more resources from an already badly optimised game. What you fail to see is, the target audience of these photo reference source site things are not second life whores, but honest FPS modders. It's funny that you mention i don't know about gaming industry, when i dedicated half of my life so far to gaming, made several total conversion mods, and i'm on friendly terms with the developer team called Stormregion, and have seen plenty of other companies' way of handling things.

Yadda, yadda, yadda. Give it a rest. Nobody here gives a rats ass about what you claim to have done, who you're "friendly" with, or what you've seen. If you want to help the guy, help him. If you can't, leave others to decide for themselves.

A friend and I were asked to record cockpit radio traffic for the BF2: Project Reality mod. Trouble was, they wanted the real-deal FM radio transmissions, and it's illegal to record them. I think my buddy ended up giving they unsecure radio recordings, not sure if they used them or not. They also wanted just a recording of ambient noise throughout the flight. I didn't really see a reason to charge them for it. Since we both played BF2 PR, we felt we could contribute to making the game better.

I might just be stupid, but couldn't he just go to the S12 section and download pics from the picture thread, do search for Tromix in general as just about everyone who's ever bought one has posted pictures of it, or last, just click on the Tromix header up above and copy pics from Tonys site. Just thinking about easy options that require no action from anyone other than the person looking for the pics............

A friend and I were asked to record cockpit radio traffic for the BF2: Project Reality mod. Trouble was, they wanted the real-deal FM radio transmissions, and it's illegal to record them. I think my buddy ended up giving they unsecure radio recordings, not sure if they used them or not. They also wanted just a recording of ambient noise throughout the flight. I didn't really see a reason to charge them for it. Since we both played BF2 PR, we felt we could contribute to making the game better.

Decide, I am a COD4 player, and I own an S-12. Mine is nothing like a Tromix though, just a regular ol' conversion. PM me and I'll get ya' what you need.

Shane

Yeah? Why don't YOU leave them to decide instead of making up stupid speculations to scare people away from helping him? If you didn't go and try to sabotage the guy and even dare question me i wouldn't have posted this to begin with.

Wow, i didn't know the BF2:PR guys went THAT far. That's nothing short of amazing. I might end up pickin up BF2 and givint that a try.

what Mod and what platform/game is it for???


If it were me? I would provide the pictures in detail, to put this gun into another game. If its french, its a mod, from my experience.

MAKE THEM CALL IT A SAIGA-12 THOUGH!!!!!

I have PM'ed Decide and will try to help him with my humble conversion.