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madmax4x4
Trying to fill out Form 1 and Form 4 to get my mac-11 and convert my saiga 12 to SBS. But don't know what to fill in and what corporation documents to send in with the form. Can any one help that has NFA weapons under a corp or any links to a example of a filled out form. Would even pay to get help if a dealer knows what to do. I just want it to be right the first time and don't want to brake any laws.

Need help please
RDSWriter
A Form 1 and a Form 4 are different forms.

I have used a revokable living trust - much cheaper, easier and no public disclosures to file... and no annual fees or meetings necessary. From what I understand the requirements for a corporation and trust are the same with regards to paperwork. If a dealer currently holds the MAC, they should be able to help you with the Form 4.

From my experience with trusts (which should be extremely similar to corporations), you'll need to submit:
1. The NFA forms in duplicate (Form 1s or Form4s, there is only one valid version of each)
2. Form 5330.20 in duplicate (Certification of Compliance/Citizenship)
3. A copy of your declaration of trust - or in the case of a corporation, the notarized Article of Incorporation (You might also need to send in your state's certification that the corporation is a legal entity, registered with the state)
4. A check in the amount of $200 for the machinegun or $200 for the SBS

When you sign the Forms and the Certification you need to sign and ALSO identify your title (e.g. for a trust you'd typically be the Grantor and Trusee - or in the case of a corporation, I'm guessing the President). With regards to HOW you fill out the forms, it will be the same (type) information for both a trust and corporation. For a few pictorals of the trust route, the following website has some good images. They will get your started in the right direction.

Arizona Gun List
madmax4x4
the form 1 is for me to SBS my saiga 12, The other two form 4's are for mac-11 and suppressor. I already have a corp. jsut didn't know what to send instead of the CLEO letter and fingerprints and photo.
RDSWriter
For paperwork, all you need is the Form1s or Form4s and the Form 5330.20 and a copy of the paperwork showing the corporation is actually a legal entity.
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