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rotortuner
Like the title says, just curiouse how many of us also have the heavy hitters here? I own several saiga 12's and love shooting them, but when i really nood more fire power i also have a 50 bmg. I have a barrett 82 A1. What about you guys? Pics are cool too, let see what ya got!

CJG
IndyArms
I have a quaint little Vulcan single shot... Laminated thumbhole stock... nice little popper... 032.gif

Pics in the gallery...

http://forum.saiga-12.com/index.php?autoco...=si&img=605

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waltham_41
I hate all of you guys with the .50 cal's. I knew I should have sold a kidney and bought one back when I had the chance. 009.gif

Errr any of you guys that own one need a kidney? rolleyes.gif
madmilo
My 500 S&W costs about $3.00 every time I squeeze the trigger. What does a 50 BMG cost per round?
Banshee
I shoot an AMAC with a Nightforce 5.5-22X56



with a 50BMG rifle handloading is a must. I load for $2.50 per rd. plus they shoot so much better. At the moment I have mine shooting 1 inch groups at 200yds. I know I get it down even tighter.

rotortuner
These are rough numbers:

Reloaded brass with surplus pulled projectiles $2.50-$3.00/round

New Brass with new projectiles, like what barrett or others sell about $4/round

match grade with A max or lepua projectiles. this stuff is the best and most accurate $5-$6.50/round

Does not include shipping, and these are just the rough prices I have been paying.
Banshee
I bought 200 rds of TALON remanufactured ammo and it was trash. The best groups I could get was 8-9 inches to 200yds. I have been using it to blast with and then reloading the brass.
Pointer
Mines being built.Its a Far 50 By Bohica Arms upper for a AR15 lower reciever,30" barrel.I have a DPMS lower,20x Super Sniper scope,Magpul PRS stock and 100rds of RSR Development rounds just sittin waiting for the upper 000.gif You think the drum issue here is crazy,Chris the owner is dealing with the same thing Mikes going thru with developing a new product.I got in on a introductory price before prices went up.

Pic is the newest Mk 3 generation upper with refined brake ..also comes standard with the bipod.
TonyRumore
I sold my 50 awhile back....too small. Got me a 20mm semi-auto instead.

That's a full size AK in the first pic. Second pic is a comparison between the wee-little 50 popgun round and the big 20mm.

Tony Rumore
Tromix Corp



waltham_41
Sweet! An old anti tank gun. I have to be nosy, what do the rounds for that baby set you back when you drag it to the range?
Pointer
That AK looks like a GI Joe action figure gun next to that 20mm 015.gif
IndyArms
That 20MM is all well and fine... But I dont know about YOU... but thats one piece of steel I would NOT like to have to CARRY anywhere to shoot... Unless I had a little gun bearer to schlep it along...

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TonyRumore
It's only about 110 pounds. No big deal. I have Bob Ash to carry it around. He can handle it, no problem.

The rounds run about $65 a shot. I have 55 rounds on hand at the moment.
You can reload for it and get the price down to about $15 a shot though.

Tony

waltham_41
Must be nice to have all of those wonderful toys wink.gif A video of the peoples faces when you brought that out would be priceless.
waltham_41
QUOTE (IndyArms @ Jul 29 2008, 06:55 PM) *
That 20MM is all well and fine... But I dont know about YOU... but thats one piece of steel I would NOT like to have to CARRY anywhere to shoot... Unless I had a little gun bearer to schlep it along...

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Heck, its on skids, just grab it by the barrel and start dragging. AFTER making sure its empty of course. naaaa.gif
Banshee
QUOTE (TonyRumore @ Jul 29 2008, 08:43 PM) *
It's only about 110 pounds. No big deal. I have Bob Ash to carry it around. He can handle it, no problem.

The rounds run about $65 a shot. I have 55 rounds on hand at the moment.
You can reload for it and get the price down to about $15 a shot though.

Tony



how much powder does that beast burn when you pull the trigger? It must be 400+ gr.
Cameron Hadley
QUOTE (Banshee @ Jul 29 2008, 08:24 PM) *
QUOTE (TonyRumore @ Jul 29 2008, 08:43 PM) *
It's only about 110 pounds. No big deal. I have Bob Ash to carry it around. He can handle it, no problem.

The rounds run about $65 a shot. I have 55 rounds on hand at the moment.
You can reload for it and get the price down to about $15 a shot though.

Tony



how much powder does that beast burn when you pull the trigger? It must be 400+ gr.

Tony thats total badass fun right there! 027.gif 027.gif 027.gif 027.gif
second shooter
At least you gyus can get .50 ammo, my gun store hasnt had any 75mm ammo since 1945!Click to view attachment
evildog69
Holy Shit Tony! How about a 105mm on a skid. I'm jealous lol. I'm with Pointer on that i have a Bohica 50 on order and am waiting patiently for it. I have a Superior Arms lower i built all ready to go. I have ammo and my 50cal reloader brass, bullets and powder to reload. Try and cut the cost down on it to shoot. I ordered mine also before the price increase. So for now i'll have to wait patiently. 000.gif
DistalRadius
I'm currently trying to haggle with a guy over his Anzio 50 single shot. $2200 a good price? I really want in on this .50bmg stuff before its banned. Have you seen Anzio Ironworks mag fed 20mm?
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THE_HUNTER
my guns shrink as we speak..................
belt fed frog
DistalRadius

$2200 is a good average price for a low end gun ,i am not saying bad just low cost maybe 2 MOA at 1000 Yrd , i happen to know Nick (Anzio) as i know most every 50 builder with the exception of Bohica and Vulcan , i have only been a 50 shooter/ reloader for 30+ years
waltham_41
QUOTE (second shooter @ Jul 30 2008, 03:55 AM) *
At least you gyus can get .50 ammo, my gun store hasnt had any 75mm ammo since 1945!Click to view attachment


Nice howitzer, Italian? Japanese?
chase
QUOTE (TonyRumore @ Jul 29 2008, 07:34 PM) *
I sold my 50 awhile back....too small. Got me a 20mm semi-auto instead.

That's a full size AK in the first pic. Second pic is a comparison between the wee-little 50 popgun round and the big 20mm.

Tony Rumore
Tromix Corp





Christ on a bicycle....I would love to shoot that thing!
lance
so how long before .50s get banned? I want one too. I especially like the Bohica one, or the Ultramag50. whats the wait time on a MKIII Bohica?
RangerM9
As much as i would like to have one.....man.....how can you afford to shoot them?

I clearly am in the wrong job.
madmax4x4
QUOTE (TonyRumore @ Jul 29 2008, 06:34 PM) *
I sold my 50 awhile back....too small. Got me a 20mm semi-auto instead.

That's a full size AK in the first pic. Second pic is a comparison between the wee-little 50 popgun round and the big 20mm.

Tony Rumore
Tromix Corp




What's a Lathe with armorers kit & coffin and 99 20mm worth now a days? don't know if it is Lathi or how it is spelled.
Banshee
QUOTE (RangerM9 @ Aug 1 2008, 12:58 AM) *
As much as i would like to have one.....man.....how can you afford to shoot them?

I clearly am in the wrong job.



you just shoot as much as you can afford at the time. It cost me $100 to fire 40 rds. 40 rds is more than most people will care to fire in a trip to the range.
rotortuner
QUOTE (RangerM9 @ Aug 1 2008, 12:58 AM) *
As much as i would like to have one.....man.....how can you afford to shoot them?

I clearly am in the wrong job.


I have the semi auto barrett and I just ordered an EDM windrunner, its a bolt action .50. But with the barrett. I have had that for about a year and each time i take it out, I will only run about 10 through it. so thats about 30 bux. I usually shoot it a few times and then let friends shoot it. I have yet to get it out to a range where i can stretch its legs though. My EDM should be done in mid nov. Once I get that I will probably make a point of getting out somewhere where I can get 600-1000 yds.

I am glad I started this thread, it sounds like there is quite a few people on here with a rather "well rounded" collection of firearms. That 20mm of Tony's is pretty BA, but that stuff sounds so expensive that its difficult to keep any amount of ammo on hand. With the .50 stuff, a good 1000 dollar investment into ammo will actually get you a couple hundred rounds. But that thing is awesome none the less.

CJG
rotortuner
QUOTE (lance @ Jul 31 2008, 10:36 PM) *
so how long before .50s get banned? I want one too. I especially like the Bohica one, or the Ultramag50. whats the wait time on a MKIII Bohica?


I am sure as you know, the 50's are already banned in CA, I think MA, and NY. There are several more states such as HI and others that have been trying to enact there own state legislation but have started to come up against resistance. NOW is the time to buy. They are basically the same price they have always been, Since they are so expensive, so far there has always been adequit supply, not like saigas where there are thousands of people who can afford them or some people by like 5 of them. Only some poeple can afford like one or two. I think eventually if they get banned they will of course rise in value A LOT. Demand will still be out there and there wont be any more supply. However, if they are made transferable DD then they might be worth any more. There are a lot of scenarios, but basically as long as you want it and you will use it. there isnt any reason to NOT buy one. I think the worst case scenario would be, it ends up non trasnferrable and you have it until you die but cant sell it to any one. But at leas you would be grandfathered in.
To get back to your question though. the 50's are always named on the new gun bans they propose each year. They werent banned in 94, but now the libs have stepped up their assault on us and every year the legislation is really broad to cover way more firearms than the old ban did. So yes, the .50s some day may be extinct if we see legislation actually go through, or they are decared DD.

CJG
rotortuner
QUOTE (DistalRadius @ Jul 30 2008, 08:54 AM) *
I'm currently trying to haggle with a guy over his Anzio 50 single shot. $2200 a good price? I really want in on this .50bmg stuff before its banned. Have you seen Anzio Ironworks mag fed 20mm?
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I dont know anything about that mag fed 20mm, but it looks like a fine firearm. I like tactical type 50's ("easy" to transport), that thing doesnt look so easy to carry around.

2200 for an anzio might seam a little steap to me. if it comes with a scope and some ammo then not too bad of a deal, but if thats gun only, i think it might be a little much. brand new i think they are currently 2k-2400. 2 years ago when our money was worth more, they were also all over GB and i think they were down to 1400-1800. so thats probably what that guy paid. like I said, if thats a package, its a dair price, if its not then keep looking or see if he will come down to about what he paid.
Cobra 76 two
I don't have one yet, but I sure would like to get one before it's too late.

Here's one that a friend of mine built. It's a BLAST to shoot! He's got another one he built on an AK Receiver that is totally BA! He doesn't take it out as much because of the huge heavy barrel and tripod, but it was the first one I ever shot and I think I like that one better. But of course....it's an AK! (well sorta..)

Anyway here's his "little .50"
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This is a pretty cool pic of one of my buddies firing it for the first time. I love the way that thing clears every bit of debris in a ten foot circle around the shooter! Stand behind it around ten feet back, and it feels like it blows you back too. I can't imagine what that 20mm must be like! He really enjoys letting other people shoot it and filming them. Hopefully one day I'll get those videos....hint hint... blush.gif
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rotortuner
QUOTE (Cobra 76 two @ Aug 1 2008, 09:38 AM) *
I don't have one yet, but I sure would like to get one before it's too late.

Here's one that a friend of mine built. It's a BLAST to shoot! He's got another one he built on an AK Receiver that is totally BA! He doesn't take it out as much because of the huge heavy barrel and tripod, but it was the first one I ever shot and I think I like that one better. But of course....it's an AK! (well sorta..)

Anyway here's his "little .50"
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This is a pretty cool pic of one of my buddies firing it for the first time. I love the way that thing clears every bit of debris in a ten foot circle around the shooter! Stand behind it around ten feet back, and it feels like it blows you back too. I can't imagine what that 20mm must be like! He really enjoys letting other people shoot it and filming them. Hopefully one day I'll get those videos....hint hint... blush.gif
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Ya, half the fun of owning one is letting other people shoot them. My favorite "tragets" to shoot are those small disposable camping propane cylinders. walmart usually has em an sale 2 for $4. I take one of those and tape a piece of 1 inch thick steel plate to it. then shoot it with API. that thick plate lights the api up and lights the propane. makes for about a 7-8ft dia fireball. add a garbage bag of stoich mixed oxy/acetaline over the propane tank and you have some seriouse hardkore american freedom going on. hahahaha.

CJG
Cobra 76 two
Wow that does sound fun. 011.gif I'll tell him about that. We were mainly blasting gallon water jugs for cheap easy reactive targets. Funniest thing I ever shot with it was this huge pumpkin that I cut a small hole in the top and filled with water. That thing made the prettiest 25 foot orange halo I ever saw..lol. Got that on video, it was awesome.

Speaking of shooting steel with it, here are some pics of a bullet he managed to stop with a chunk of steel.

The clean pass through was a miss on the first plate (he had them stacked). It landed safely in the backstop.

The one that hit lower pierced the first plate and stuck in the second. Pretty awesome firepower. 015.gif

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chevymann
I have the Barrett 82A1. My wife got it for my birthday this year..... It was a complete surprise, although I had dreamed of owning one for over 3 years. We went to the gun shop to get some ammo. As we were leaving she went back in to see if she could "use their bathroom" and came back out with 2 guys carrying large boxes... The gun store guys were as wide eyed as I was when I opened the case..

It was a good deal CDNN had a package that included the Barrett 82A1, Swarovski 10X Scope, cleaning kit, hearing protection, 80 rounds of ammo and a HK calender for $8500 delivered.. Also came with a coupon to get another 10rd mag from Barrett for free..

When I told my dad I was getting married, he said "It will either be the best thing for you or the worst thing for you. No middle of the road with marriage".
I'm sure I made the correct decision...

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belt fed frog
Cobra 76 two,
that "home made " looks too much like a Ligmac Ultralite 50 AR upper with a harris bopod

the "build " is push the two pins on the AR lower out , probly a new hammer and spring and push the pins back in now you have a 50

it is not nice to try and fool a pro nonono.gif
hogdog
QUOTE (chevymann @ Aug 1 2008, 10:34 AM) *
I have the Barrett 82A1. My wife got it for my birthday this year..... It was a complete surprise, although I had dreamed of owning one for over 3 years. We went to the gun shop to get some ammo. As we were leaving she went back in to see if she could "use their bathroom" and came back out with 2 guys carrying large boxes... The gun store guys were as wide eyed as I was when I opened the case..

It was a good deal CDNN had a package that included the Barrett 82A1, Swarovski 10X Scope, cleaning kit, hearing protection, 80 rounds of ammo and a HK calender for $8500 delivered.. Also came with a coupon to get another 10rd mag from Barrett for free..

When I told my dad I was getting married, he said "It will either be the best thing for you or the worst thing for you. No middle of the road with marriage".
I'm sure I made the correct decision...

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Evidently you did make the correct decision! That's one heck of a birthday present!
waltham_41
Boy I can see I'm hanging out with a crowd with some deep pockets!

My converted S12 and my Romak 3 are the most expensive weapons I will ever own, and are the most expensive weapons that anyone I know have ever been around.

Oh well, at least I got to play with some fun stuff while I was in the Army.

Racer 27
QUOTE (chevymann @ Aug 1 2008, 10:34 AM) *
I have the Barrett 82A1. My wife got it for my birthday this year..... It was a complete surprise, although I had dreamed of owning one for over 3 years. We went to the gun shop to get some ammo. As we were leaving she went back in to see if she could "use their bathroom" and came back out with 2 guys carrying large boxes... The gun store guys were as wide eyed as I was when I opened the case..

It was a good deal CDNN had a package that included the Barrett 82A1, Swarovski 10X Scope, cleaning kit, hearing protection, 80 rounds of ammo and a HK calender for $8500 delivered.. Also came with a coupon to get another 10rd mag from Barrett for free..

When I told my dad I was getting married, he said "It will either be the best thing for you or the worst thing for you. No middle of the road with marriage".
I'm sure I made the correct decision...

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She have a sister?
DistalRadius
You guys have all seen this BS right? The infamous "heat seeking bullets" idiocy? Can't remember if this was already posted on this forum or not. Stupid politicos.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BRQqieimwLQ

Cuz apparently, "incediary"="heat seeking". scorn.gif

Oh and I love that opening splash graphic: ".50 caliber terror!" with the pic of the Barrett and a jetliner in crosshairs. Such pathetic fear-mongering.

ChevyMan: You lucky SOB.
1911
QUOTE (waltham_41 @ Aug 1 2008, 11:08 AM) *
Boy I can see I'm hanging out with a crowd with some deep pockets!

My converted S12 and my Romak 3 are the most expensive weapons I will ever own, and are the most expensive weapons that anyone I know have ever been around.

Oh well, at least I got to play with some fun stuff while I was in the Army.

One mans floor is another mans ceiling. No matter who you are or how many toys you have there is always somebody above you. Paul said that he had learned to be happy no matter what state he was in. (I guess that includes NY smile.gif )

Great B-day giht Chevyman. Did you have to earn the money for her to get it for you? 021.gif That's how it works here and it works mighty well!

1911
Cobra 76 two
QUOTE (belt fed frog @ Aug 1 2008, 12:04 PM) *
Cobra 76 two,
that "home made " looks too much like a Ligmac Ultralite 50 AR upper with a harris bopod

the "build " is push the two pins on the AR lower out , probly a new hammer and spring and push the pins back in now you have a 50

it is not nice to try and fool a pro nonono.gif

Siwwy wabbit! Twix are for kids!

My mistake, I know he built the AK one, so I assumed he had custom built this one too when he said the barrel came from overseas somewhere. I wish I could get him to join up here and post some stuff. He's got some really cool toyz. 000.gif


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belt fed frog
Cobra 76 two

see if he will let you take some pic i would be Veeery interesed, there are some very cool homemade designed actions out there and i would be intresed on his design solution ,making an action is not an easy task .

what you guys and gals are to AK`s and Siaga`s i am to everything 50 BMG rifle or beltfed .

you friends barrel is more than likely than not a Lothar Walther from Germany
Cobra 76 two
I believe he did say it came from Germany. Yes I've been trying to get pics of the AK-50 from him for a few years now...lol...and the video of the pumpkin blast. I only see him when we get together for the big shoots and he always has a different new toy to bring. The barrel on that AK one is about 4 to 5 feet long and around 2 inches diameter, from what I remember, with a big tank brake on it. The tripod is also huge so he doesn't take it out too much. It's got a removable stock and a PG with a big scope on it. The breech unscrews from the rear for each shot. I'll bug him some more and see if he will send me some pics.
waltham_41
QUOTE (1911 @ Aug 1 2008, 11:44 AM) *
QUOTE (waltham_41 @ Aug 1 2008, 11:08 AM) *
Boy I can see I'm hanging out with a crowd with some deep pockets!

My converted S12 and my Romak 3 are the most expensive weapons I will ever own, and are the most expensive weapons that anyone I know have ever been around.

Oh well, at least I got to play with some fun stuff while I was in the Army.

One mans floor is another mans ceiling.



1911


How very true 1911, but it sucks living under the 12 illegal immigrants that rented the basement of the outhouse and subleased me THEIR basement! 021.gif 021.gif 021.gif 021.gif 021.gif 021.gif 021.gif

At least I can laugh about it.

Like I said, I got to play with some neat stuff in the Army, it wasnt mine but it still went BOOM for me smile.gif From a Abrams with 105mm cannon inc M240 MG and M2 machine gun and then on to M728 Combat Engineer Vehicle (CEV) with 165mm demolition cannon w/machineguns to 40 lb C4 cratering charges, 75mm recoilless rifles, and bangalore torpedoes in the guard.

Ahhhhh the good old days. 027.gif 027.gif 027.gif

And I really do enjoy watching you guys with the great toys. Just makes me a little wistful is all.
chevymann
QUOTE (Racer 27 @ Aug 1 2008, 12:18 PM) *
QUOTE (chevymann @ Aug 1 2008, 10:34 AM) *
I have the Barrett 82A1. My wife got it for my birthday this year..... It was a complete surprise, although I had dreamed of owning one for over 3 years. We went to the gun shop to get some ammo. As we were leaving she went back in to see if she could "use their bathroom" and came back out with 2 guys carrying large boxes... The gun store guys were as wide eyed as I was when I opened the case..

It was a good deal CDNN had a package that included the Barrett 82A1, Swarovski 10X Scope, cleaning kit, hearing protection, 80 rounds of ammo and a HK calender for $8500 delivered.. Also came with a coupon to get another 10rd mag from Barrett for free..

When I told my dad I was getting married, he said "It will either be the best thing for you or the worst thing for you. No middle of the road with marriage".
I'm sure I made the correct decision...

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She have a sister?

Nope... She's an only child... If she had a sister, I convert to Mormon and marry her too.... lol
chevymann
QUOTE (1911 @ Aug 1 2008, 12:44 PM) *
QUOTE (waltham_41 @ Aug 1 2008, 11:08 AM) *
Boy I can see I'm hanging out with a crowd with some deep pockets!

My converted S12 and my Romak 3 are the most expensive weapons I will ever own, and are the most expensive weapons that anyone I know have ever been around.

Oh well, at least I got to play with some fun stuff while I was in the Army.

One mans floor is another mans ceiling. No matter who you are or how many toys you have there is always somebody above you. Paul said that he had learned to be happy no matter what state he was in. (I guess that includes NY smile.gif )

Great B-day giht Chevyman. Did you have to earn the money for her to get it for you? 021.gif That's how it works here and it works mighty well!

1911

Well, we both work so it all comes out of one pool of $$... We've spent a lot restoring her 72 Chevelle convertible. Maybe she wanted to even the score. But seriously, I got it as an investment I can play with. I dont see the prices of them going down anytime soon.
Juggernaut
But, LOORRRIIEEEEE!!!! all the other guys got a .50 Cal!!!!!!!! 018.gif
1911
QUOTE (Juggernaut @ Aug 1 2008, 03:52 PM) *
But, LOORRRIIEEEEE!!!! all the other guys got a .50 Cal!!!!!!!! 018.gif

021.gif 021.gif 021.gif 021.gif 021.gif 021.gif That'll fly Juggs! Let us know how that works out for you. 015.gif
waltham_41
QUOTE (Juggernaut @ Aug 1 2008, 03:52 PM) *
But, LOORRRIIEEEEE!!!! all the other guys got a .50 Cal!!!!!!!! 018.gif



If that works for you, keep in mind that I am up for adoption wink.gif
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