topmaul
Aug 5 2008, 05:33 PM
Comrades,
What is your reload technique?
oldandslow
Aug 5 2008, 07:57 PM
I have created by own magazine pouch. The magazines are stored bottom down. About 1/3 of the magazine sticks up above the pouch. The pouch contains 3 magazines across the front belt line.
I have an extended magazine release. And a magazine well.
When I want to change a magazine, I hit the aluminum extended release lever, at the same time grabbing the new magazine with my left hand. I turn the gun about a quarter turn to the see the mag well hole.
Stuff in the magazine. If you haven't grabbed the magazine low enough, you hand will prevent the magazine from seating. It is important to hold the gun as close as you can to shooting level, as after the reload, all you have to do is rotate the sight into you vision and pull the trigger.
Shot to aimed shot best time 1.99 seconds.
Without a magazine well, I have to hit the old magazine with my left fist containing the new magazine (because the old magazine will not drop out) and then rock and lock with my left hand.
Shot to aimed shot bet time 2.59 seconds. The problem really isn't the difference in time, the problem is I can't seem to get better than 3 out of 4 error free reloads.
Dean Makkos claims 1 second reloads without a mag well. I would normally say he is full of it, except his "Rumore" competition gun has the shit beat out of it from practice reloading.
ncglocker
Aug 6 2008, 07:19 AM
any info or pics on the mag well?
topmaul
Aug 6 2008, 06:32 PM
A mag well would be nice but I am moving on and going to work on my Rock and Lock treating my Saiga like it's an AK using the fresh magazine as a tool to release the old magazine.
I do plan to put a LRBHO device on my gun at some point.
SGTCap
Oct 18 2008, 11:51 AM
QUOTE (oldandslow @ Aug 5 2008, 07:55 PM)

I have created by own magazine pouch. The magazines are stored bottom down. About 1/3 of the magazine sticks up above the pouch. The pouch contains 3 magazines across the front belt line.
I have an extended magazine release. And a magazine well.
When I want to change a magazine, I hit the aluminum extended release lever, at the same time grabbing the new magazine with my left hand. I turn the gun about a quarter turn to the see the mag well hole.
Stuff in the magazine. If you haven't grabbed the magazine low enough, you hand will prevent the magazine from seating. It is important to hold the gun as close as you can to shooting level, as after the reload, all you have to do is rotate the sight into you vision and pull the trigger.
Shot to aimed shot best time 1.99 seconds.
Without a magazine well, I have to hit the old magazine with my left fist containing the new magazine (because the old magazine will not drop out) and then rock and lock with my left hand.
Shot to aimed shot bet time 2.59 seconds. The problem really isn't the difference in time, the problem is I can't seem to get better than 3 out of 4 error free reloads.
Dean Makkos claims 1 second reloads without a mag well. I would normally say he is full of it, except his "Rumore" competition gun has the shit beat out of it from practice reloading.
I wasn't aware that there was a magwell currently available. Could you provide any more information on it?
gunnysmith
Oct 18 2008, 06:23 PM
Cobra 76 two
Oct 18 2008, 08:59 PM
W

W
gunnysmith
Oct 18 2008, 09:18 PM
Like that Cobra?
scoutjoe
Oct 18 2008, 10:21 PM
QUOTE (gunnysmith @ Oct 18 2008, 10:16 PM)

Like that Cobra?

Shit I had to watch it twice to figure out what the hell all you were doing
Glocker
Oct 18 2008, 10:50 PM
QUOTE (gunnysmith @ Oct 18 2008, 10:16 PM)

Like that Cobra?

I sure did!
acer_saiga308
Oct 19 2008, 12:08 AM
Holy moley that was fast. What was the third action for? It's like you're flipping something on the left side of the gun or something. I've watched it 8 or 10 times and I still can't figure it out.
1: pull trigger and click.
2: rack bolt.
3: click something. sounds like the trigger again, but it involves the left hand.
4: grab new mag and knock old one out.
5: insert new mag.
6: rack bolt.
Curiously,
Acer
ETA: I thiiinnk I've got it. It's you hitting the mag release. Your trigger finger never leaves its spot.
thereisnospoon
Oct 19 2008, 07:28 AM
Man, do I need A LOT more practice!
Spoon
Cobra 76 two
Oct 19 2008, 07:42 AM
Acer he's going through a training exercise where he's clearing a malfunction (like a misfire or dud round), swapping mags for a good one, and getting back to rockin and rollin.
That's outstanding man!
Like she says.....OMG! lol
TGReaper
Nov 27 2008, 10:46 AM
Here's mine....
TG Reaper Speed ShotgunWith my Tromix Saiga with magwell, handmade Kydex magpouch, and magazines modified according to my friend Greg Queen at Carolina Shooter's Supply, 1.30-1.5 seconds, shot to shot on target. Video to follow soon!
ML Roak
Nov 28 2008, 03:30 AM
QUOTE (TGReaper @ Nov 27 2008, 11:44 AM)

Here's mine....
TG Reaper Speed ShotgunWith my Tromix Saiga with magwell, handmade Kydex magpouch, and magazines modified according to my friend Greg Queen at Carolina Shooter's Supply, 1.30-1.5 seconds, shot to shot on target. Video to follow soon!
I thought I recognized your alias from when I used to haunt the SASSwire and CasCity.
I shoot my S-12 plenty quick, but I need a LOT of work on the reloads.
kisatu
Nov 28 2008, 01:41 PM
I speed load my mags same way but i do a up and under reach around to my baby, not over the top, i guess its preference. I will make a video soon of me with my Saiga 12 maybe with my Ak too, but there is already a lot out there with the AK. Or you could just use an MD20, if that is the case no zombies left to reload for >.> Plenty of time to get ready for wave 2! LOL
aessu
Nov 28 2008, 04:23 PM
I'm still a newb in with the gun, had it for like 2 months now. Here is few vids from today's dry-fire practice. And no, those aren't live rounds in the magazine.
Edit: Yeah, I definitely need a extended magazine release. First one is with cycling the action, second without cycling, though i did mess up bit on inserting the magazine.
headshot
Nov 28 2008, 09:51 PM
QUOTE (gunnysmith @ Oct 18 2008, 06:21 PM)

Nice. I saw some polish soldier training video where they were doing that. They were FAST. I'll try to find it, but it appears to be a really good technique.
headshot
Nov 28 2008, 09:54 PM
QUOTE (aessu @ Nov 28 2008, 04:21 PM)

I'm still a newb in with the gun, had it for like 2 months now. Here is few vids from today's dry-fire practice. And no, those aren't live rounds in the magazine.
Edit: Yeah, I definitely need a extended magazine release. First one is with cycling the action, second without cycling, though i did mess up bit on inserting the magazine.
Hi fellow Finn!
I was about to call you a cheater cuz we american bastards cant have nice toys like your Saiga.... or is that the new vepr?
aessu
Nov 29 2008, 08:22 AM
QUOTE (headshot @ Nov 29 2008, 03:54 AM)

QUOTE (aessu @ Nov 28 2008, 04:21 PM)

I'm still a newb in with the gun, had it for like 2 months now. Here is few vids from today's dry-fire practice. And no, those aren't live rounds in the magazine.
Edit: Yeah, I definitely need a extended magazine release. First one is with cycling the action, second without cycling, though i did mess up bit on inserting the magazine.
Hi fellow Finn!
I was about to call you a cheater cuz we american bastards cant have nice toys like your Saiga.... or is that the new vepr?
It's a Spetsnaz Saiga-12k in it's factory config except for world's ugliest compensator. It's gonna be looking totally different after I modify it the way I feel perfect for competition. Gonna get a custom rear trunnion with threads for AR-buffer tube, picatinny mount for Eotech in place of the normal rear sight as it's now too back, VFG, mid-barrel comp and few other mods...
scoutjoe
Nov 29 2008, 11:06 AM
I'm really slow
http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseacti...ideoID=42735768but the milk jugs still couldn't run away fast enough
aessu
Nov 29 2008, 11:09 AM
Go ahead and get a magwell, as it will most likely speed up your reloads significantly. AGP mags can easily be modified to fit and lock in the magwell. I did the mod with a file and a knife. It's pretty pricy, but if it would who decides, worth every penny. After you try it once, there is no coming back.
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