dph arms
Aug 14 2008, 12:54 AM
We got the samples in today and here are the pics as promised. We tried to stick as closely as posible to the original Beryl design but we also wanted to make it user friendly with NO gunsmithing required.
The mount is connected to the rear site base with 2 hardned and pointed screws which will make a small indentation into the metal and act as a pivot point. The screws then have "set screws" that lock them into postion. We were originally considering using a "spot" drill bit to create a deeper indentation for the points to sit in but now that we have it in hand we are not sure that it will be needed. Testing will let us know.
The quick disconnect on the back does not require any alterations to the rear trunion. It is a separate piece that sits in the trunion and is held down with the rear stock screw. That piece has the "male" locking tab for the quick disconnect to mount to. I will get more detailed pics and post them.
As for price, we are working on that and I hope to have something very soon.
Scott


nalioth
Aug 14 2008, 01:06 AM
DELICIOUS!
rskins
Aug 14 2008, 01:27 AM
22_Shooter
Aug 14 2008, 04:25 AM
QD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Cobra 76 two
Aug 14 2008, 08:18 AM
Looks great Scott! Worth the wait!
dph arms
Aug 14 2008, 10:19 AM
Thanks guys, we have worked hard to get this right. We are right were we need to be. There are a couple of "tweaks" that we need to do. The rear trunion on the Saiga is not as deep as the Romanian guns so we have to fine a way around that and also we need to find out how many different variations there are in the rear trunions from country to country.
Scott
Paladin
Aug 14 2008, 04:31 PM
I've waiting for one (or three) Let us know when you're ready to roll them out!
HarvKY
Aug 14 2008, 05:13 PM
Looks like you have a winner there
Your site usually has a notification tab on products. Will you do that with this item and/or post it here when we can place an order or get on a list?
Uh, any ballpark guesstimation on pricing ??? not that we would hold you to anything
Is this for 7.62 only, or is the 308 Saiga a possibility as well?
Cheers,
HarvKY
evildog69
Aug 14 2008, 05:15 PM
let me know when ready i'll take two. looks great!!!
Makc
Aug 14 2008, 07:00 PM
Nice ads Scott... Just great!
Gas Giant
Aug 14 2008, 08:38 PM
does it come with a chocolate chip cookie?
if not I'll take one anyway.
Blackjack_21
Aug 14 2008, 10:34 PM
Damn, that makes my wallet hurt...
With that rail and a quad rail or an Ultimak and you'll never need iron sights.

More pix, kthx!
chevymann
Aug 15 2008, 12:22 AM
Wow! Very inventive. Gonna have to have one... or two...
rccola
Aug 15 2008, 05:44 PM
Is there going to be any way to fit this to an Ace folder?
nalioth
Aug 15 2008, 05:58 PM
QUOTE (rccola @ Aug 15 2008, 05:42 PM)

Is there going to be any way to fit this to an Ace folder?
From the description, you'll be able to use it with the Ace external block.
It needs an external stock tang to work.
dph arms
Aug 15 2008, 08:38 PM
QUOTE (Makc @ Aug 14 2008, 07:58 PM)

Nice ads Scott... Just great!
Did I do something wrong????
Scott
RangerM9
Aug 18 2008, 12:00 AM
Wow....sign me up!
just what i wanted for my .308 I assume it will work on that?
Thanks,
When ready to sell, suggest you make a contribution to the forum (forum rules, advertising requires a contributor status, or business membership) - suspect that was Makc's point......but i should not try to speak for him.
regardless, nice looking product!
dph arms
Aug 18 2008, 12:56 AM
I fully understand that you have to pay to play, we have intentionally not advertised anything for sale. We are simply trying to get all the feedback that we can to ensure that this thing is as best it can be.
I went back and checked all of our post and all we have ever done is respond to questions being asked by members and also asked for some feedback in reguard to R&D work. If I have misstepped I appologize!!!
Scott
Vultite
Aug 18 2008, 01:28 AM
Scott, what would the advantage be on this type of mount? seems like optics would hafta rest pretty low on that, would flip rear sights work with say a gas tube mounted front sight?
lonerider
Aug 18 2008, 10:56 AM
dph arms
Aug 18 2008, 11:05 AM
QUOTE (lonerider @ Aug 18 2008, 11:54 AM)

If I'm not mistaken, that is a plastic copy of our original Beryl mount. Thiers is made out of some type of polymer and ours is machined out of a solid block of aluminum.
Scott
Blackjack_21
Aug 18 2008, 10:16 PM
Hey, Scott, can we get a close-up shot of the attachment point on the gas block? I think my eyes are playing tricks on me.
22_Shooter
Aug 18 2008, 10:30 PM
QUOTE (dph arms @ Aug 18 2008, 12:03 PM)

QUOTE (lonerider @ Aug 18 2008, 11:54 AM)

If I'm not mistaken, that is a plastic copy of our original Beryl mount. Thiers is made out of some type of polymer and ours is machined out of a solid block of aluminum.
Scott
Plus, theirs doesn't look like it has QD capabilities. Which is a HUGE plus on your product, in my book.
skifast
Aug 19 2008, 02:46 PM
When and how much? Looks great.
lonerider
Aug 21 2008, 04:05 PM
Yea.......How Much???
And it WILL fit a Saiga? I'm finding so many parts that fit AK's but not Saigas
22_Shooter
Aug 21 2008, 06:05 PM
QUOTE (lonerider @ Aug 21 2008, 05:03 PM)

And it WILL fit a Saiga? I'm finding so many parts that fit AK's but not Saigas

Yes, it will fit a Saiga.
rskins
Aug 23 2008, 01:19 AM
hepcat85
Aug 27 2008, 11:42 AM
So..........
WHEN and HOW MUCH?
Sorry....I wanted to get to the point.
dph arms
Aug 28 2008, 10:52 AM
We are working on it. We are trying to find ways to keep cost down but still offer a quality mount.
Scott
Kriegerwithin
Sep 2 2008, 07:42 PM
I just received my rear rail system today. But on the instructions it says I have to disengage my rear iron sight, which don't make me a happy camper at all. To makes matters worse, it also says in big bold letters, "Warning; Sight will flip up at Mach 1 speed, may cause injury."
On your rail do you have to remove the iron sights or does it fit with it or what?
dph arms
Sep 2 2008, 07:57 PM
QUOTE (Kriegerwithin @ Sep 2 2008, 08:40 PM)

I just received my rear rail system today. But on the instructions it says I have to disengage my rear iron sight, which don't make me a happy camper at all. To makes matters worse, it also says in big bold letters, "Warning; Sight will flip up at Mach 1 speed, may cause injury."
On your rail do you have to remove the iron sights or does it fit with it or what?
I dont think you have our mount if it has that warning in the instructions.
Our original design does require the removal of the rear site leaf and all of the companies that have copied our design require the same thing.
On our new design which is pictured here in this thread, you DO NOT have to remove the rear site leaf.
Scott
Kriegerwithin
Sep 3 2008, 12:47 PM
QUOTE (dph arms @ Sep 2 2008, 08:55 PM)

QUOTE (Kriegerwithin @ Sep 2 2008, 08:40 PM)

I just received my rear rail system today. But on the instructions it says I have to disengage my rear iron sight, which don't make me a happy camper at all. To makes matters worse, it also says in big bold letters, "Warning; Sight will flip up at Mach 1 speed, may cause injury."
On your rail do you have to remove the iron sights or does it fit with it or what?
I dont think you have our mount if it has that warning in the instructions.
Our original design does require the removal of the rear site leaf and all of the companies that have copied our design require the same thing.
On our new design which is pictured here in this thread, you DO NOT have to remove the rear site leaf.
Scott
No, I got the SGM Rear Tactical Mount. I was just asking if your new system requires the rear sight to be dismounted.
I rather keep my iron sights on that way if there's a problem with the optics, I can simply remove it and continue shooting via iron sights.
dph arms
Sep 4 2008, 12:26 AM
I thought you had gotten theirs, the one that they have is a copy of ours. We had sent a sample out to a rather large vendor who then forwarded it to SGM for them to copy. That is one reason we are being so slow to release this new one. I hate for someone to simply buy one and then send it to China to be reversed engineered after we have spent 8 months in development on it.
To answer your question, our new design doesn not require the rear site leaf to be removed. You will have both the rail and your iron sites.
Scott
SOPMOD
Sep 4 2008, 01:56 AM
QUOTE (dph arms @ Sep 4 2008, 12:24 AM)

I thought you had gotten theirs, the one that they have is a copy of ours. We had sent a sample out to a rather large vendor who then forwarded it to SGM for them to copy. That is one reason we are being so slow to release this new one. I hate for someone to simply buy one and then send it to China to be reversed engineered after we have spent 8 months in development on it.
To answer your question, our new design doesn not require the rear site leaf to be removed. You will have both the rail and your iron sites.
Scott
I went through that same situation with a certain manufacturer of crappy folding plastic stocks with a sample I sent them(not allowed to get to specific yet)but your mount is EXACTLY what I was hoping for and if it will really hold zero when installed properly then you have solved a real dilemma for me in the eye relief department

As you can see if a guy want's to use one of those nifty 1-4X scopes with a short stock and nose to topcover hold getting the proper scope position is not gonna work out unless the mount is right behind the RSB.
When will your be available?
Kriegerwithin
Sep 4 2008, 08:45 AM
QUOTE (dph arms @ Sep 4 2008, 01:24 AM)

I thought you had gotten theirs, the one that they have is a copy of ours. We had sent a sample out to a rather large vendor who then forwarded it to SGM for them to copy. That is one reason we are being so slow to release this new one. I hate for someone to simply buy one and then send it to China to be reversed engineered after we have spent 8 months in development on it.
To answer your question, our new design doesn not require the rear site leaf to be removed. You will have both the rail and your iron sites.
Scott
I'm in LOVE with your product then! How much would it roughly cost? Do you do trades? lol
kdc415
Oct 2 2008, 04:52 PM
Is there any ETA on when this will be available?
rskins
Oct 7 2008, 01:32 AM
any news ? need rail badly!!!
SJgunguy24
Oct 7 2008, 06:16 AM
Bueller...............Bueller...............Bueller
r8408n
Oct 15 2008, 02:48 AM
Great Job bro, but for those of us losers that thought your original was bullet proof ( and still is!) and want to buy more....i.e. more than two. Will you still be making the old one's? Yeah, we all know where to get copies........ ya got ta have some compassion though, some of us really like yer work, even though your admiration for authentication involved in this one was more than appealing. Much Love.
dph arms
Oct 15 2008, 04:20 PM
QUOTE (r8408n @ Oct 15 2008, 03:46 AM)

Great Job bro, but for those of us losers that thought your original was bullet proof ( and still is!) and want to buy more....i.e. more than two. Will you still be making the old one's? Yeah, we all know where to get copies........ ya got ta have some compassion though, some of us really like yer work, even though your admiration for authentication involved in this one was more than appealing. Much Love.
We still manufacture our original mount and will continue to.
Scott
r8408n
Oct 16 2008, 04:27 AM
BAM!
docwade
Nov 24 2008, 04:42 PM
Tried to find the old style on your website, but none were listed. I need another one bad!
r8408n
Nov 30 2008, 05:50 AM
QUOTE (docwade @ Nov 24 2008, 12:42 PM)

Tried to find the old style on your website, but none were listed. I need another one bad!
Yeah, your not the only one, bro. Been wait'n!
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