How many people do you know that don't owne guns and say they have no need for then.
Except when SHTF they say they want to stay at your well stocked home?
I tell them when shtf good luck getting here with no guns.

Tell those people that if they want to stay in your house when SHTF they need to buy ammo for you in advance.

I've had people tell me stupid shit like, they're coming to my house when the shit hits the fan. Most of them don't say that they have no need for guns, but don't have guns for some reason.

I don't have any friends who don't own guns

Some of the reasons why they don't like the guns:

http://www.corporatemofo.com/stories/021210guns2.htm

I'll be too busy pillaging the neighborhood for supplies to care.

Hello
I live in Texas. I don't believe anybody lives here that doesn't have at least a couple of guns. Except for maybe crimigrants, they're not really 'sposed to have 'em, but most of 'em probably do.
Most folks have a bunch.

guido2 in Houston

Yep, all my buds say theyre coming to my house. I tell em to get their own damn guns, I've only got so many to go around and the best shots are getting priority!

People like that can fend for themselves. If they don't own guns ,its safe to assume they also don't do anything to protect your right to own one.
But when SHTF they will sure want to reap the benefits of gun ownership.

Same thing for people that built bomb shelters and stocked them with food and water,while their neighbors laughed at them. They would be beating down
their doors when the sirens sounded. I have had plenty of wingdings say they would like me to take them shooting,or "tell me the next time you go,I'd love to come." Do they inquire about what kind of ammo they should buy? Not so much. Like I want to baby sit some Liberal while he gets his rocks off
wasting my ammo.

It could be an opportunity when SHTF happens to say,"sure...you can come in,just sign over your Silverado and you're good to go."

I have plenty of people ask to go shooting with me too but I always ask them "So what do you want to shoot? ARs, AKs, Snipers, Pistols?" Then when they tell me I tell them "Ok well let me know how many rounds you want to shoot because ammo costs X and either you need to bring your own or I'll buy it for you"

At that point they usually never get back to me which is great.

I read something kinda funny over on ARFCOM down this line...guy said he had two couples over for dinner one night. One couple was SHTF conscious, had supplies, guns, preps, etc. The other family was from just down the street and would constantly give the guy shit about having all the preps, guns, etc.

Then, the non-prepper said "if the SHTF, I'm coming over to your house" to which the ARFCOM guy responded "you won't make it across the front lawn."

He was talking about how he thinks he really hurt the guys' feelings, but hey - sounds like a liberal to me - give you crap for having preps, then expect you to hand them out when the time comes. GET YOUR OWN! You have the time, money and opportunity to do so now.

If the SHTF and somebody wants to use one of my guns, "I'm using that one."

And guess what? "I'm using that one too."

Don't take this the wrong way, but it just might not be that they can't afford the ammo, but rather the attitude you give off. At least from your post, it sounds kind of unwelcoming. When we go to the range, all of our friends know they're invited whether they have their own guns or not. We know people who have fun shooting, but aren't at the point where they want to buy their own gun yet. And, letting them come up and shoot off some rounds gets them into the sport a little more. Telling people that they have to tell you beforehand how many rounds they want to shoot, or to go buy their own ammo, can sometimes be enough to make people not want to bother. Back in the early 90s, Esteban and his business partner used to take their Barretts up to the range and pretty much let anyone fire off a few rounds. This was back when nobody had 50s except them, so it was a positive experience for anyone wanting to try it.

Who knows, taking some of these people shooting might change the way they see firearms, and firearm owners.

I don't own any guns but I figure I planned pretty well. I already live with the guy with all the guns!

Hey Racegal20 you sound like my future bride to be. She has claimed ownership of my XD9mm, and one of my custom AR's. Its funny she has learned how to field strip all of my guns including ar15,all my saigas,and all my hand guns. Oh and when we go to the range she loads her own ammo.

guido2 I dont think shtf will happen in texas got to be the safest state to live in.
Well ok dallas can burn
The dallas cowboys suck.

Pretty much no one I know owns guns, but my uncle hunts. But on the same note, no one is against gun ownership, that I know. My blood, and a few close friends will have a place with me, regardless of their gun owning status, if S ever HTF. For my circle of friends and family, guns aren't something we were brought up with. I don't hold that against them, only because they aren't actually against gun ownership. I'm trying little by little to get people I know to come shoot with me. If not for preparedness-sake, just for fun and to open their eyes to something new and fun.

Honestly, if someone wants to go shoot with you, you should definitely take them. I do it like this, unless it's a chick, then I pony up the cash and cross my fingers that she won't get intimidated and think I'm a raging lunatic: 1) Pick them up with a bunch of guns in my car, 2)ride to Academy, 3) walk to the ammo section and say "if you want to shoot this, get this, if you want to shoot that, get that, if you want to shoot the pistols, go talk to the guy behind the counter" (at this point they usually grimace at the cost of ammo, and buy a box of 20 rounds of 7.62x39 and maybe a box of 9mm). Then I take them out and they usually have a great time. I'll usually toss them a couple of boxes of ammo when they run out having a good time. Then I expect lunch and/or beer.

Hell, I took one of my liberal friend's friend from college out to shoot the AK and my glock, and he went to the next gun show and bought a Ruger .357, and now he wants to get an AK. I've even got the same liberal friend who "doesn't see why you should be able to get guns so easily" saying he wants to get "one of those dirty hairy looking revolvers."

You know what old Ben Franklin said "you catch more flies with a spoonful of honey than a gallon of vinegar."

You have to educate people.

Ever since being personally converted into a 2nd ammendment fan, I've been an advocate that we need to do constant "missionary work". The more ppl we convert, the bigger we can make our sport and collective. Then more ppl are aware of the issues. More votes can get to pro 2nd ammendment issues. AND the less ignorant we can make our populance = the less liberal our populance can be.

I'll invite as much people as I can. I will always be greatful for my friend who introduced me to this and the best way to show gratitude is to continue the trend. I think a $10 investment in ammo with the hope of converting someone from anti gun or indifferent to more friendly to firearms is very worth while. If we don't, as we get older and die off and less ppl are pro gun in the future, our children (and us) can kiss our right to bear arms goodbye.

Before the trip, I like to open up a rifle or semi and show them how they work and do the safety talk. I talk about ammo and their respective power, usage and price (but i never make them feel that this is an inconvenience - but at least they understand why we shoot a lot of 22 and only a few 308s) At the range, I thus bring a couple of 22s and always start there (why scare them off with a 308 or nagant?) I spend most of the time with the 22s (safer, less scary and cheaper). I'll move them to a AK or a 9mm handgun. Then right before we leave, I'll give them a few rounds of 308 or 7.62x54r. This is actually less than $10 in ammo!

oh..any while showing them how to shoot...it's corny but : "Dont' show off, show that you care".

If i feel they want to go more often, I'll drop by a gun place and show them around. It's also a good oppurtunity to show them how much ammo cost. I never mention how much i just spent on them, etc. (I dunno, when I went on dates, it was always gentlemanly to pay and open the door, etc.) They are usually very thankful at this point and buy me lunch/dinner. I always down play it and say it's worth it now that at least they can be safer towards guns, maybe be a fan, etc. During the outing, I make sure to give them the reasons why gun laws are stupid. I give them the whole 922r thing and how stupid it is. etc.

We complain about ppl not understanding our sport and our rights. Yet many of us dont' do anything about it. We just need to educate. We can't do that if we charge them for gas money or our time or our ammo. Be a friend. I have so much fun showing a newbie how to shoot! It's amazing seeing their face when they realize all the liberal garbage they have been hearing is garbage. it's amazing when they start to ask what gun they should buy!

Then when SHTF, you can have a bunch of folks that have your back (all, with their own guns and ammo).

Right on, vujade!
I reckon asking someone to go shooting is no different than asking 'em over for a cookout, I wouldn't expect 'em to bring their own slab of beef or whatever. I'm inviting, it's my treat. If they take the bait and get into shooting, they will quickly realize what a deal they got on that first shooting trip to the range, and how "subtly eager" their "sponsor" was to guide them in to the fold.....

-"Heh...heh....The first one's free....."

Damn, that comes off kind of insidious, huh?

Well, so far, I haven't taken anybody to the range and put a loaded S12 in their hands and they are not either an owner or on a waiting list for one at this moment. I'm 5 for 5. And that doesn't count my two boys, 'cause I'm buying theirs.
And I've convinced four people (two couples, that's one man and one woman per for you Kalifornians.... ) to get their CHL's to boot.
And of course, NRA registrations.

Money well spent.

guido2 in Houston

My wifes' family is very gun afraid, but not really anti-gun. They freak out every time they come over to the house and see me cleaning or inspecting something in my collection. They say they don't understand how I converted my wife into accepting firearms. My wife always tells her sisters that famous line, "God didn't make everyone equal, Colt did". They just stare in confusion.

Worst thing is, two years ago a friend of ours was carjacked and almost killed when the carjackers crashed trying to get away from the police. After that incident, my wife told all her sisters to get a gun. They told her that they are more afraid of a gun, then they are of carjackers. Go figure.

Now my brother in law is a total anti gun wimp. He thinks you can reason and talk your way out of a situation. I agree, if you are dealing with reasonable people, but criminals are not reasonable people.

Most excellent advice brothers! Since I took my kids shooting, they always wanted to bring a friend. That was always fine and sometimes we had 7 or 8 down at the range. I provided guns, ammo, training, encouragement and lunch. Quite a few of those young folks are now grown and gun owners, the rest respect the 2nd Amendment and have no issue with either guns or concealed carry.

In the event of SHTF, I believe that I can use all the friends that I have. We could easily outfit 40 folks or so and would gladly do it simply because there is safety in numbers. I sincerely doubt that Dallas will ever burn nsa400, but if it does this house will go out with a bang. Just another like thought.

1911

Yeah, I got some friends like that, but only a few. 98% of my friends own guns, and almost all of those are SHTF minded. I have one friend who likes guns but his wife won't let him own any. SHE then had the nerve to say that they were coming to my house if anything went bad.

I asked, "Why? You want to get shot by somebody you know?"

She had no answer for that one.

I live in NJ so the general attitude towards guns is non-permissive (to put it mildly). However, there are still open minded individuals around and if I think they're comfortable with it, I invite them to go shooting. On my dime, no questions asked. The only thing I require is that they understand the safety rules and respect the weapon. I recommend the .22 because plinking is fun, cheap, and doesn't scare a new shooter with the recoil and noise. I will bring the "big boy toys" along for the wowee factor but will only break them out after getting warmed up with the .22. Unfortunately I haven't been overly successful in creating new gun owners in NJ because the process of applying for the ID card is ridiculous.

Ironically, there are actually a lot of gun owners in the southern NJ area however their tolerance for firearms only extends to hunting or sporting kinds. The evil black rifle is for law enforcement or military wannabe's in their view. And for the few who are into tactical rifles, the AR is the cat's meow. Anything other than the AR is shiite and not worth their time. AK's are for Communists and drug dealers.

In a true SHTF, I believe that there are a lot of shotguns and hunting rifles that people keep in their homes but don't ever admit that they own. However, in a true SHFT I'm looking after me and my own first. I'll help who I can in whatever way I can that doesn't compromise my own family's security.