1911
Aug 29 2008, 02:46 AM
The link below will take you to a picture of a guy who forgot to clear his .40 weapon prior to cleaning. A simple mistake can occur when you get too comfortable handling your weapon and the results are disastrous. Imagine if it was a .45 ACP or a .50 AE!!! If you have a weak stomach don't bother opening the link and just take my word for it that safety must come first, last and in between. Always, always, always clear your weapon before cleaning and even then do not put your hand in front of the muzzle.
http://www.xdtalk.com/forums/photo-gallery...ak-stomach.htmlThis is a public service announcement by 1911
ck43001
Aug 29 2008, 03:38 AM
Oww, the poor guy lost his ring finger.
righttoown
Aug 29 2008, 05:23 AM
Good reminder, About a year ago at our pistol range an Air Force Officer was holstering his .380 pistol and it went off and took a good section out of the main vain in his left thigh. Lucky for him there was a nurse there that new what to do and used her fingers to pich off the vain until help arrived. The Doctor said by the time he got to the hospital he lost 70% of his blood and does'nt know how he was still alive. He did recover and when he finally got to go back to the base his commanding officer transfered him to another base.
22_Shooter
Aug 29 2008, 05:54 AM
Ahhhhhhhhhhhhh!
Nasty.
Reminds me of a video on YouTube where a guy was shoot a Glock 18, and it started to get away from him, and he ended up putting one through is left hand. You could see the hole as he backed away from the station, but he kind of acted like nothing happened

. I wonder why it left such a clean hole, as opposed to the mess in the OP. Just the fact that it was a 9?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=11fcg543Jow (click on "watch in high quality" for a better view of the hole)
Gas Giant
Aug 29 2008, 07:45 AM
OUCH!!!
QUOTE (22_Shooter @ Aug 29 2008, 06:52 AM)

Ahhhhhhhhhhhhh!
Nasty.
Reminds me of a video on YouTube where a guy was shoot a Glock 18, and it started to get away from him, and he ended up putting one through is left hand. You could see the hole as he backed away from the station, but he kind of acted like nothing happened

. I wonder why it left such a clean hole, as opposed to the mess in the OP. Just the fact that it was a 9?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=11fcg543Jow (click on "watch in high quality" for a better view of the hole)
Bvamp
Aug 29 2008, 08:20 AM
QUOTE (righttoown @ Aug 29 2008, 06:21 AM)

Good reminder, About a year ago at our pistol range an Air Force Officer was holstering his .380 pistol and it went off and took a good section out of the main vain in his left thigh. Lucky for him there was a nurse there that new what to do and used her fingers to pich off the vain until help arrived. The Doctor said by the time he got to the hospital he lost 70% of his blood and does'nt know how he was still alive. He did recover and when he finally got to go back to the base his commanding officer transfered him to another base.
My last screw up happened when I was practicing mobile shooting up in the woods back home in NY a few years back. I sling this particular rifle so that it hangs under my right arm when I let go of it. Anyhow, I had run about 120 rounds down it, and forgot to cycle the action after the last shot, and clear the action. Well the gun was pretty hot, and there was one left in the chamber that had failed to fire, and was the last round in the mag, so stupid me just popped the mag and saw that it was empty.
Anyway, the walk back down the hill turned into a near death experience, when the round cooked off and went into the ground right next to my foot. If the gun had been oriented just slightly different, there is no way I would have survived the injury, I am sure. I never would have made it out of the woods, let alone into the house to call for help.
That was pure stupidity on my part, and I can assure you that standing there in the woods white as a ghost, made a big impression on me about how I should never lose respect for firearms, what they can do, how fast it can happen, and how I messed up.
Will
Aug 29 2008, 08:32 AM
QUOTE (Bvamp @ Aug 29 2008, 08:18 AM)

My last screw up happened when I was practicing mobile shooting up in the woods back home in NY a few years back. I sling this particular rifle so that it hangs under my right arm when I let go of it. Anyhow, I had run about 120 rounds down it, and forgot to cycle the action after the last shot, and clear the action. Well the gun was pretty hot, and there was one left in the chamber that had failed to fire, and was the last round in the mag, so stupid me just popped the mag and saw that it was empty.
Anyway, the walk back down the hill turned into a near death experience, when the round cooked off and went into the ground right next to my foot. If the gun had been oriented just slightly different, there is no way I would have survived the injury, I am sure. I never would have made it out of the woods, let alone into the house to call for help.
That was pure stupidity on my part, and I can assure you that standing there in the woods white as a ghost, made a big impression on me about how I should never lose respect for firearms, what they can do, how fast it can happen, and how I messed up.
Come on, you can tell us.
How bad did you crap yerself?????
desert dog
Aug 29 2008, 10:15 AM
I had dinner at the house of one of my wifes friends a couple years ago. During conversation, her husband finds out that im a gun guy. Sooo, he did the guy thing and took my up to his safe to show me his stuff. The guy pulls out his custom 1911 to show me how cool it is, rips on the trigger for some unknown reason, and puts a hole through the upstairs floor and through the couch in the living room. His wife laughs and comments that "it wasnt the first time"????
The kicker is that he got offended when I suggested he take a firearms safety class.
I dont even want to comment on how many times I have seen a rangemaster save a careless person's life. Folks shooting the floor in front of them at indoor ranges. Its proven instinct for an untrained person to put their finger on the trigger when handling a gun. Scary stuff, and why I dont totally disagree with basic firearms safety classes.
XdamagedX
Aug 29 2008, 01:38 PM
I wonder who the asshole was that said "hey wait, lets take a picture"... whoever it was... god blessem'
elvis christ
Aug 29 2008, 02:37 PM
One of my buddies woke up one morning and had his PPK laying next to him on the bed, not the best idea (I know I've done this before, and I'm sure some of you have gone to bed fondling your guns). Anyway, he had the magazine out of the thing, and had one round laying on the arm rest of the couch next to the bed, where another friend of ours was sleeping. So he assumed that there wasn't one in the chamber, pointed it at the ceiling and for some reason pulled the trigger, and put one through the ceiling in his room. I make fun of him whenever I get the chance, but I sure am glad that no one was hurt. After I heard that story from both of them, I have really made a conscious effort to be more careful with my firearms.
22_Shooter
Aug 29 2008, 04:01 PM
All the misplaced shot holes at ranges make me nervous. I look at them and think "what the F were they doing that made them put a round THERE?". I'd see shot holes in the weirdest places

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rangerdavid
Aug 29 2008, 05:28 PM
QUOTE (XdamagedX @ Aug 29 2008, 02:36 PM)

I wonder who the asshole was that said "hey wait, lets take a picture"... whoever it was... god blessem'

yeah, can you imagine the guy saying "hay, wait a minute, let me get a picture before we call 911"
damn, that's gonna leave a mark................ ouch.
moxie1c
Aug 29 2008, 06:19 PM
bigj480
Aug 29 2008, 06:24 PM
QUOTE (22_Shooter @ Aug 29 2008, 05:52 AM)

Ahhhhhhhhhhhhh!
Nasty.
Reminds me of a video on YouTube where a guy was shoot a Glock 18, and it started to get away from him, and he ended up putting one through is left hand. You could see the hole as he backed away from the station, but he kind of acted like nothing happened

.
I wonder why it left such a clean hole, as opposed to the mess in the OP. Just the fact that it was a 9?http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=11fcg543Jow (click on "watch in high quality" for a better view of the hole)
One is an entrance wound and one is an exit wound. That video still makes me cringe, apperantly the guy was using the front grip to like he should have been usin the normal grip. The front grip should mainly be used for aiming and controlling the muzzle climb, not recoil. Especially if it is mounted on a plastic rail a couple of inches from the barrel of an automatic firearm that does not have a stock and fires at a rate of 1,300 RPM. Yeah, smart.
Kwicko
Aug 29 2008, 06:44 PM
My dad drilled this lesson into me from a very early age - he told me one simple thing, and to never, ever forget it. I haven't.
"In your entire life, as long as you live, no one is EVER going to hand you an unloaded weapon. Until you've removed the magazine, cycled the action, visually checked it, and then cycled it again and visually checked it AGAIN, every weapon you are handed is to be treated as loaded and safety-off."
I try to bring a healthy dose of respect to every gun I handle, in the sincere hope that I never have to see something like the picture in that link.
Mike
G O B
Aug 29 2008, 07:37 PM
Allways point the gun in a SAFE direction before pulling the trigger. Every gun is loaded all the time and should be treated as such. I preach this to myself all the time, When cleaning or handling (ESPECIALLY PISTOLS!) I remember what the old Chief taught us in boot, "Drop the mag, rack the slide LOOK into the chamber, rack the slide Hard 3 times, point at something SAFE then pull the trigger. On our sister boat the Grampus, the Torpedoman Chief didn't look-he did rack the slide 3 times, but he limpwristed it. Damned impressive that a .45 FMJ can penetrate a 15/16" HTS steel pressure hull. Some jerkwad on watch had chambered a round, and by limpwristing the slide, the extractor claw did not grab the rim. They had to go to sea with a damage controll plug driven into the hole!
Kwicko
Aug 29 2008, 09:27 PM
Thanks, GOB - that's a pretty good lesson in WHY every gun is loaded and should be treated as such!
I had a friend of mine, non-gun guy, who wanted to see my P85. I'd removed the mag, cycled it, visually checked, done all my usual drills, and handed it to him - whereupon he immediately pointed it at me! I did what I was trained to do: I stepped around the side a bit and stepped into him, grabbed the gun, and wrenched it towards his thumb, bending his thumb and wrist, breaking his grip on it, and removing the gun from his hand, rather roughly. "OWWWW!! WHADJA DO THAT FOR?!" he screamed, to which I replied, "Because you pointed a loaded gun at me, you fuck!" "But... but... it wasn't loaded!" "Yeah? How do you know? Did you check it?"
Yes, I was an asshole about it - but you know what? He's never forgotten that lesson.
Why is it that non-gun people just HAVE to point a gun at you the first time they get their hands on one? No matter how many times you tell them, it's like it's an instinct of some sort that has to be UN-learned...
Mike
waltham_41
Aug 30 2008, 01:40 PM
QUOTE (Kwicko @ Aug 29 2008, 06:42 PM)

My dad drilled this lesson into me from a very early age - he told me one simple thing, and to never, ever forget it. I haven't.
"In your entire life, as long as you live, no one is EVER going to hand you an unloaded weapon. Until you've removed the magazine, cycled the action, visually checked it, and then cycled it again and visually checked it AGAIN, every weapon you are handed is to be treated as loaded and safety-off."
I try to bring a healthy dose of respect to every gun I handle, in the sincere hope that I never have to see something like the picture in that link.
Mike
When I was 13 or so my stepbrother handed me a .22 rifle that was "unloaded" and I aimed the rifle at the ceiling and pulled the trigger. It was loaded and I put a hole in the ceiling.
That was my wake up call and I can remember that day vividly.
Ever since then, I am anal about safety and always will be.
22_Shooter
Aug 30 2008, 02:55 PM
QUOTE (bigj480 @ Aug 29 2008, 07:22 PM)

QUOTE (22_Shooter @ Aug 29 2008, 05:52 AM)

Ahhhhhhhhhhhhh!
Nasty.
Reminds me of a video on YouTube where a guy was shoot a Glock 18, and it started to get away from him, and he ended up putting one through is left hand. You could see the hole as he backed away from the station, but he kind of acted like nothing happened

.
I wonder why it left such a clean hole, as opposed to the mess in the OP. Just the fact that it was a 9?http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=11fcg543Jow (click on "watch in high quality" for a better view of the hole)
One is an entrance wound and one is an exit wound.
Gotcha, that makes sense. I still can't believe he almost acted like nothing happened

.
bigj480
Aug 30 2008, 03:53 PM
QUOTE (22_Shooter @ Aug 30 2008, 02:53 PM)

QUOTE (bigj480 @ Aug 29 2008, 07:22 PM)

One is an entrance wound and one is an exit wound.
Gotcha, that makes sense. I still can't believe he almost acted like nothing happened

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Ohh, I have a feeling that the pain set in a few seconds after the video stopped, especial because it was his hand. Hope I never have to find out first hand.
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