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1911
This is a sad situation and points up the need for a better plan. I don't fault the police in the least because the wife was hollering "He has a gun!" and didn't identify WHO had the gun.

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1911
This emphasizes the need for communication when you're calling the police!

Notify the responding agency what the homeowner is wearing and that they were armed)

Expect to be challenged by responding LEO's...NEVER turn toward the officers with a weapon in your hand - due to "tunnel vision" they might focus on the threat and not recognize you and shoot as you'd be interpreted as the aggressor

Do everything the officers command you to do - expect to have to drop your weapon and be handcuffed (you can straighten it out in very short oder once things are calmed down)

Don't argue or try to explain who you are...obey immediately and explain later!

Again - DONT EVER turn toward or approach officers with a weapon.* If they're calling for you call back to them (if they can't see you) and identify yourself and that you're currently armed and where what the other threat is...if they can't hold the other threat at bay advise that you will until they take up a proper position and then you will immediately comply and drop your weapon...even if they can't it is much better a criminal go free temporarily than you get shot - which tends to be more permanent!

*The above post was not written by me. 1911
hogdog
I agree with you completely 1911. When you call the police to respond to an in-progress home invasion robbery or burglary, and they enter shouting "police," you probably shouldn't walk out with a gun in your hand. Also, the wife could have provided better information. In such a high stress situation, it is difficult to think of such things, and that is why a preexisting plan is so valuable.
Racegal20
QUOTE (1911 @ Sep 19 2008, 10:44 AM) *
This emphasizes the need for communication when you're calling the police!

Notify the responding agency what the homeowner is wearing and that they were armed)

Expect to be challenged by responding LEO's...NEVER turn toward the officers with a weapon in your hand - due to "tunnel vision" they might focus on the threat and not recognize you and shoot as you'd be interpreted as the aggressor

Do everything the officers command you to do - expect to have to drop your weapon and be handcuffed (you can straighten it out in very short oder once things are calmed down)

Don't argue or try to explain who you are...obey immediately and explain later!

Again - DONT EVER turn toward or approach officers with a weapon.* If they're calling for you call back to them (if they can't see you) and identify yourself and that you're currently armed and where what the other threat is...if they can't hold the other threat at bay advise that you will until they take up a proper position and then you will immediately comply and drop your weapon...even if they can't it is much better a criminal go free temporarily than you get shot - which tends to be more permanent!

*The above post was not written by me. 1911



Good suggestions. When an officer tells you to get on the ground, just do it! Too many people try to negotiate in the heat of the moment. Baaaad idea. Save that for later. Then they scream police brutality when the police 'explain' the importance of them getting down, NOW. Far as I'm concerned, they got what they were asking for.
SJgunguy24
I hope the homeowner didn't get any bones shatterd or any essential organs hit. I have to agree, don't do anything stupid when a cop shows up on a call like that. Thier adrenaline is pumping and all battle stations are go. It's to bad the bad guy still had a pulse.

Does anybody have body armor? I was thinking of hanging mine on the bedroom door,just in case. Grab gun, flashlight, level 3 vest go hunting.
THE_HUNTER
Poor guy. Well the anchorwomen atleast were hot! 001.gif On a more serious note, yes on the armor! 004.gif
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