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VanKiller
As an old dealer who lived thru the last Demo president..........that sumbitch sold more guns for me than any good, gun friendly president ever did.....................remembering the big money days as the last gun ban came into effect.......... 012.gif ..............ahhhh,,but the wife thinks he might be the anti-christ.............so maybe not.................. 000.gif
152dbs
there is a difference between a gun ban and complete gun banishment....
G O B
Trust you'r wife on this one, he IS the anti-christ!
Mississippi Auto Arms
There won't be a sunset period on the next assault weapons ban. Remember, Obama said the DC gun ban was constitutional up until the court struck it down. The next president might have to replace Stevens, Scalia, Kennedy, Souter, Thomas, Gunsburg, Breyer, so the USCT justices he appoints will have a lot to say about our constitutional rights. It is reasonable to assume that he will appoint justices with the similar anti-second amendment views as his.

QUOTE (152dbs @ Oct 10 2008, 03:51 PM) *
there is a difference between a gun ban and complete gun banishment....
HarvKY
[quote name='Mississippi Auto Arms' date='Oct 10 2008, 06:41 PM' post='271751']
There won't be a sunset period on the next assault weapons ban. Remember, Obama said the DC gun ban was constitutional up until the court struck it down. The next president might have to replace Stevens, Scalia, Kennedy, Souter, Thomas, Gunsburg, Breyer, so the USCT justices he appoints will have a lot to say about our constitutional rights. It is reasonable to assume that he will appoint justices with the similar anti-second amendment views as his.


Bingo Nathan (hope you're feeling better)

There is only ONE issue in this election ..... and its not the 2nd Amendment !!!



Its that he could and most surely will appoint people like Chuck Schumer & Diane Feinstein to the Supreme Court.
Its going to be more than the 2nd that goes by the board if this comes to pass IMHO

Cheers, HarvKY
Mississippi Auto Arms
I have heard talk about Obama promising to appoint Hillary Clinton to the USCT for her full support of him for president. Imagine her replacing Scalia or Thomas....


[quote name='HarvKY' date='Oct 10 2008, 08:43 PM' post='271789']
[quote name='Mississippi Auto Arms' date='Oct 10 2008, 06:41 PM' post='271751']
There won't be a sunset period on the next assault weapons ban. Remember, Obama said the DC gun ban was constitutional up until the court struck it down. The next president might have to replace Stevens, Scalia, Kennedy, Souter, Thomas, Gunsburg, Breyer, so the USCT justices he appoints will have a lot to say about our constitutional rights. It is reasonable to assume that he will appoint justices with the similar anti-second amendment views as his.


Bingo Nathan (hope you're feeling better)

There is only ONE issue in this election ..... and its not the 2nd Amendment !!!



Its that he could and most surely will appoint people like Chuck Schumer & Diane Feinstein to the Supreme Court.
Its going to be more than the 2nd that goes by the board if this comes to pass IMHO

Cheers, HarvKY
Bean.223
We are living in rare times my friends. We are actually going to have a chance to fight for our rights......hot damn! I am both NOT SURPRISED, and excited.....

uzitiger
Do you want to vote for an Al Qaeda sleeper operator disguised as a presidential candidate? I want to worship the real G-d who created the heavens and the earth not the phallic stone in Mecca that Obama calls his allah and I want to stick to my guns like the people of Pennsylvania.

Under the last DemocRAT presidents gun prices went up as did all prices. This Muslim communist will disarm us to make us defenseless against Islamic terrorists and black Muslim gangs who will have a free for all against American citizens.
bigj480
QUOTE (uzitiger @ Oct 11 2008, 02:21 PM) *
Do you want to vote for an Al Qaeda sleeper operator disguised as a presidential candidate? I want to worship the real G-d who created the heavens and the earth not the phallic stone in Mecca that Obama calls his allah and I want to stick to my guns like the people of Pennsylvania.

Under the last DemocRAT presidents gun prices went up as did all prices. This Muslim communist will disarm us to make us defenseless against Islamic terrorists and black Muslim gangs who will have a free for all against American citizens.


Wow...... 010.gif
Twinsen
Dude's a Jew, probably knows what he's talking about. 032.gif

Obama is shockingly seedy in his operations though. Oh and he obviously hates this country and says so to get votes out of defeatist democrats.
Gunfixr
I was almost thinking of voting for Osama also, but for a different reason.

I ain't gettin' any younger, just get it started so we can get it over with and rebuild.
bobotech
QUOTE (uzitiger @ Oct 11 2008, 12:21 PM) *
Do you want to vote for an Al Qaeda sleeper operator disguised as a presidential candidate? I want to worship the real G-d who created the heavens and the earth not the phallic stone in Mecca that Obama calls his allah and I want to stick to my guns like the people of Pennsylvania.

Under the last DemocRAT presidents gun prices went up as did all prices. This Muslim communist will disarm us to make us defenseless against Islamic terrorists and black Muslim gangs who will have a free for all against American citizens.

Do you really really believe that kind of crap? I mean seriously?

I am fully against Obama for his stances on the issues and especially gun control but I do NOT hold any validity about all those stupid Al Qaeda sleeper operator mis-theories and him being a full blown muslim and other stupid theories.

I'm sorry but you are hating the guy for all the wrong reasons.

Hate Obama all you want but hate him because he will tax the snot out of the average American, that he will try to eliminate guns from our ownership, that he will try to pass socialized medicine, etc. Not because of the tinfoil hat reasons which just make us (right wingers) look like fucking idiots to the mainstream public and especially to the all important moderate voter (that is what is going to make or break this election).

Black muslim gangs? That to me is a veiled attempt at passive aggressive racism. I would never say such a thing.
Will
QUOTE (uzitiger @ Oct 11 2008, 02:21 PM) *
Do you want to vote for an Al Qaeda sleeper operator disguised as a presidential candidate? I want to worship the real G-d who created the heavens and the earth not the phallic stone in Mecca that Obama calls his allah and I want to stick to my guns like the people of Pennsylvania.

Under the last DemocRAT presidents gun prices went up as did all prices. This Muslim communist will disarm us to make us defenseless against Islamic terrorists and black Muslim gangs who will have a free for all against American citizens.




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Uzi,

Don't you think if some of that were true, we would already have heard about it?



patriot
......we HAVE heard about it.
bigj480
Since it is sooo obvious, please prove the following statements:

Obama is an Al Qaeda sleeper operator disguised as a presidential candidate.
Obama worships a phallic stone in Mecca and calls it allah.

Good luck.

I'm sure that he is more diplomatic than you would like, he will not kill all of those "evil muslim Arabs". That does not make him "an Al Qaeda sleeper operator disguised as a presidential candidate". I'm sure that he doesn't practice the form of christianity that we are familiar with, but that does not mean that he "worships a phallic stone in Mecca and calls it allah". These are fitments of your imagination or purposeful mischaracterizations. There are enough facts to make it obvious that he is not the best choice for POTUS, making up reasons just dilutes your argument.
Gaddis
QUOTE (bobotech @ Oct 12 2008, 11:58 AM) *
Not because of the tinfoil hat reasons which just make us (right wingers) look like fucking idiots to the mainstream public and especially to the all important moderate voter (that is what is going to make or break this election).


Well, fuck. If all it took was looking crazy (with those asshole left-wing pink whateverthefucktheyare casting "Black Magic" spells in front of that Recruiting station down in Berkley) we should have this election wrapped up then, eh? rolleyes.gif

How come when the other side goes out of their way to look like total moronic assholes, the Democrats still get lots of votes? unsure.gif

Maybe that's our whole problem there? The right-wingers are all too straight laced? dry.gif

I personally think your campaign strategy is all washed up. Let UziTiger vent, besides being mostly true and funny, I don't think it makes a whit of difference in our chances. rolleyes.gif
Will
QUOTE (Gaddis @ Oct 12 2008, 06:16 PM) *
Well, fuck. If all it took was looking crazy (with those asshole left-wing pink whateverthefucktheyare casting "Black Magic" spells in front of that Recruiting station down in Berkley) we should have this election wrapped up then, eh? rolleyes.gif




I'd love to see video of that!

Just think what the Republican party could do with it!








Gaddis
There's probably video out there. unsure.gif

Republican party won't do shit with it since the left controls most of what's shown on the local media outlets. angry.gif

Pink Witch's Coven in Berkley
HarvKY
QUOTE (bobotech @ Oct 12 2008, 11:58 AM) *
QUOTE (uzitiger @ Oct 11 2008, 12:21 PM) *
Do you want to vote for an Al Qaeda sleeper operator disguised as a presidential candidate? I want to worship the real G-d who created the heavens and the earth not the phallic stone in Mecca that Obama calls his allah and I want to stick to my guns like the people of Pennsylvania.

Under the last DemocRAT presidents gun prices went up as did all prices. This Muslim communist will disarm us to make us defenseless against Islamic terrorists and black Muslim gangs who will have a free for all against American citizens.

Do you really really believe that kind of crap? I mean seriously?

I am fully against Obama for his stances on the issues and especially gun control but I do NOT hold any validity about all those stupid Al Qaeda sleeper operator mis-theories and him being a full blown muslim and other stupid theories.

I'm sorry but you are hating the guy for all the wrong reasons.

Hate Obama all you want but hate him because he will tax the snot out of the average American, that he will try to eliminate guns from our ownership, that he will try to pass socialized medicine, etc. Not because of the tinfoil hat reasons which just make us (right wingers) look like fucking idiots to the mainstream public and especially to the all important moderate voter (that is what is going to make or break this election).

Black muslim gangs? That to me is a veiled attempt at passive aggressive racism. I would never say such a thing.





+1 bobo,
HarvKY
Geologist
I really don't think Obama is dumb enough to do anything significant to gun laws in the whole scheme of things. He may pull the same bullshiat as Reagan (signed legislation forbiding any new registation of full autos made in the US or imported to the US after 1986), or Bush Sr (banned imports of lot of semi auto foreign made guns), or Clinton (assault weapons ban which sunsetted in 2004), or Bush Jr (has overseen one of the most heavyhanded ATF regimes to date, including shutting down of mom and pop gun shops for paperwork mistakes, interperting reblueing of guns as manufacter of firearms, and banning import of steel core rifle ammo).

The "obama's gonna seize your guns!" line is bull.

That being said, I don't like what Obama is putting forth. However, at least he pays lipservice to the Constituion. \

In conclusion, vote Barr. He doesn't have a prayer, but wouldn't you rather he win?
VanKiller
QUOTE (Gunfixr @ Oct 12 2008, 10:05 AM) *
I was almost thinking of voting for Osama also, but for a different reason.

I ain't gettin' any younger, just get it started so we can get it over with and rebuild.



+1...........LOL.........looks like I stirred them up with this post...................
VanKiller
Hey................you guys took this post a little tooooo serious..................was just kidding, after the intensity of Knob Creek for a couple days............................thought I'd better clear up my position..................I'm votin for Palin & the old guy......... rolleyes.gif
Gunfixr
Yep, VK, you got 'em fired right up.

It was entertaining, though, and worth it.
Gaddis
QUOTE (Geologist @ Oct 13 2008, 12:03 AM) *
I really don't think Obama is dumb enough to do anything significant to gun laws in the whole scheme of things. He may pull the same bullshiat as Reagan (signed legislation forbiding any new registation of full autos made in the US or imported to the US after 1986), or Bush Sr (banned imports of lot of semi auto foreign made guns), or Clinton (assault weapons ban which sunsetted in 2004), or Bush Jr (has overseen one of the most heavyhanded ATF regimes to date, including shutting down of mom and pop gun shops for paperwork mistakes, interperting reblueing of guns as manufacter of firearms, and banning import of steel core rifle ammo).

The "obama's gonna seize your guns!" line is bull.


Bullshit, I personally think Obama's going to be signing anti-gun bills with one hand while he feverishly masturbates with glee from what he's doing with the other. angry.gif

After all, with his personally picked Democratic Supreme court and Senate, who's got the balls to stop him now? unsure.gif

And for all those "pseudo-tough" asshats online who claim they will counter any disarmament attempts with armed resistance, shit, my cane using senile Grandmother could probably disarm them herself. rolleyes.gif

Time to get your heads out of your assholes people and stop trying to justify your apathy. 007.gif
Modiano
QUOTE (uzitiger @ Oct 11 2008, 02:21 PM) *
Do you want to vote for an Al Qaeda sleeper operator disguised as a presidential candidate? I want to worship the real G-d who created the heavens and the earth not the phallic stone in Mecca that Obama calls his allah and I want to stick to my guns like the people of Pennsylvania.

Under the last DemocRAT presidents gun prices went up as did all prices. This Muslim communist will disarm us to make us defenseless against Islamic terrorists and black Muslim gangs who will have a free for all against American citizens.


is that a quote from stormfront? strange bedfellows, i say.

you're obliged to have your views. i respect that.

i hope you respect that i'm wondering if there is an Anti Defamation League that protects gentiles from crazy zionists
Gaddis
Obama might be a "genital," but he sure ain't a "Gentile." laugh.gif

What, "Barry" too white cracker of a name for you, Barak? angry.gif
Modiano
as for would-be president obama going for the "great assault weapon grab"...eh....obama/biden (and many anti-gun politicians) may seriously like the idea, but it will be very very difficult to pull that off these days.

1. supreme court is backing the 2nd amendment in ways it hasn't done before.

2. almost every state has some form of concealed carry license.

3. "pro-gun" attitude/state legislation are more prevalent than anytime in my short lifetime

that being said, i'm still not voting for obama. i might've if he'd picked a VP that wasn't as much of an anti-constitutionalist to balance the ticket. mccain's VP pick...jeez....she's hot, but that doesn't cut the presidential mustard if mccain dies or has to step down.

i may just have to sit this one out sad.gif
Twinsen
I'm deeply with UziTiger and Gaddis on this. I trust that man 0%, he says he isn't going to ban all guns just so he can get votes. He will do whatever his party wants him to do! You all know he's a leftist puppet, why do you doubt he'd do whatever they want on this issue too? For fucks sake.
152dbs
QUOTE (Geologist @ Oct 13 2008, 12:03 AM) *
including shutting down of mom and pop gun shops for paperwork mistakes


The "obama's gonna seize your guns!" line is bull.


if "mom and pop" didnt make mistakes we wouldnt have as many firearms illegally owned. i work at a mom and pop store and "pops" makes sure every damn form is filled out. so by what ur saying businesses can make as many mistakes as they want and remain open?

and the obama and guns line....he may not seize them, but he'll damn sure make them illegal to own. i saw a guy at a local gun range...he was firing off all his left over ammo. he had a nice looking XD. he had to sell it to someone b/c he was moving to chicago for school.
bobotech
QUOTE (VanKiller @ Oct 13 2008, 07:19 AM) *
Hey................you guys took this post a little tooooo serious..................was just kidding, after the intensity of Knob Creek for a couple days............................thought I'd better clear up my position..................I'm votin for Palin & the old guy......... rolleyes.gif

Oh I knew you were being facetious, I just was upset at the poster who keeps giving gun lovin' right wingers a bad name to the mainstream populous.

Leave all those strange theories about Obama being a muslim terrorist to the people at stormfront (LOL at that one), and lets show the average person that we aren't dumb tin foil hatters thinking everyone is out to get us.

My name is not Dale Gribble.

Man, I think that if the grand majority of die hard gun lovers were to proclaim their dissatisfaction of Obama on the ISSUES, and not fringe theories, the public would be loooking at us with a much more respectful eye.

Do tin foil hatters really believe that exposing fringe theories (obama is a muslim terrorist/he wants to take down america/etc) are really going to look in our favor with the mainstream public?? Seriously?
Gaddis
QUOTE (Modiano @ Oct 13 2008, 08:15 PM) *
1. supreme court is backing the 2nd amendment in ways it hasn't done before.

2. almost every state has some form of concealed carry license.


Yeah, Washington, District of Columbia is *REALLY* following the Heller decision with big, happy smiles on and bells on their toes, eh? rolleyes.gif

Let's not even talk about "rotten-to-the-core" Daley Chicago and their views on citizens fighting back against the predator masses there. angry.gif

And CCW's are relatively easy to get now? Hope you're ready to give a Texas BlowJob (dick dipped in whiskey first) or a rather *LARGE* campaign contribution before filling out CCW paperwork and expecting to see something for all your efforts in the great state of NJ. 007.gif
zone1935
Obama has already tipped his hand..... he keeps repeating "semi-automatic rifle with a (blank) round clip" over and over. INCREMENTALISIM!!!! They are in this for the long haul, small victories are just as valuable to the dems as the large ones. You don't think that the tax code started out as a 60,000 page document at first, do you?
Surly
I can't wait to see the streets filled with keyboard commandos if and when he gets elected. 011.gif






Actually, the internet sniveling factor from said keyboard commandos will increase ten-fold and that's about it. 007.gif
Mississippi Auto Arms
It is difficult to pull off today, but look at the ages of 7 of our 9 justices
Stevens is 88
Kennedy is 72 (voted for Heller)
Souter is 69
Thomas is 60(voted for Heller)
Scalia 72(voted for Heller)
Ginsburg is 75 (has already said she wants to retire but not under Bush)
Breyer is 70

All the above will be replaced over the next 8 years. Obama voted against confirming Roberts and Alito will appoint justices with the same anti-2nd amendment views. McCain is an awful choice but he is worlds ahead of Obama. Not voting is the same as voting for Obama.



QUOTE (Modiano @ Oct 13 2008, 07:15 PM) *
as for would-be president obama going for the "great assault weapon grab"...eh....obama/biden (and many anti-gun politicians) may seriously like the idea, but it will be very very difficult to pull that off these days.

1. supreme court is backing the 2nd amendment in ways it hasn't done before.

2. almost every state has some form of concealed carry license.

3. "pro-gun" attitude/state legislation are more prevalent than anytime in my short lifetime

that being said, i'm still not voting for obama. i might've if he'd picked a VP that wasn't as much of an anti-constitutionalist to balance the ticket. mccain's VP pick...jeez....she's hot, but that doesn't cut the presidential mustard if mccain dies or has to step down.

i may just have to sit this one out sad.gif
dvdivx
Just remember your right to vote under Obama will be as important as Mickey Mouse's right to vote. Obama trained early Acorn members and has always been endorsed by them. He has given over $1M to them just in the last two years. The Democrats tried to give them $20 Billion in the first draft of the bailout bill.
uzitiger
I'm no conspiracy theorist. I come from a Jewish family whose parents escaped from Iraq in 1951 and they saw what it was like to live as a dhimmy (second class person) in an Arab country. My parents saw what that was like. They had it worse during the pro Nazi Rashid Ali regime until the British took control of the country.

I don't trust any Muslims and isn't it strange that Obama's rise to presidential candidate was meteoric? Where is his money coming from besides from Hamas and Hezbollah? These are hard economic times and he's getting $150 million, we need to know where it's coming from. I don't know if he's an Al Qaeda operative but I wouldn't out anything past him. He's a Muslim, he hates America and he also wants to disarm us, that is not good for our freedom and will make us easier targets for his Islamic terrorist friends.
Modiano
QUOTE (Mississippi Auto Arms @ Oct 17 2008, 09:05 AM) *
It is difficult to pull off today, but look at the ages of 7 of our 9 justices
Stevens is 88
Kennedy is 72 (voted for Heller)
Souter is 69
Thomas is 60(voted for Heller)
Scalia 72(voted for Heller)
Ginsburg is 75 (has already said she wants to retire but not under Bush)
Breyer is 70

All the above will be replaced over the next 8 years. Obama voted against confirming Roberts and Alito will appoint justices with the same anti-2nd amendment views. McCain is an awful choice but he is worlds ahead of Obama. Not voting is the same as voting for Obama.



that, sir, is a very good point.
Modiano
QUOTE (uzitiger @ Oct 20 2008, 06:46 PM) *
I'm no conspiracy theorist. I come from a Jewish family whose parents escaped from Iraq in 1951 and they saw what it was like to live as a dhimmy (second class person) in an Arab country. My parents saw what that was like. They had it worse during the pro Nazi Rashid Ali regime until the British took control of the country.

I don't trust any Muslims and isn't it strange that Obama's rise to presidential candidate was meteoric? Where is his money coming from besides from Hamas and Hezbollah? These are hard economic times and he's getting $150 million, we need to know where it's coming from. I don't know if he's an Al Qaeda operative but I wouldn't out anything past him. He's a Muslim, he hates America and he also wants to disarm us, that is not good for our freedom and will make us easier targets for his Islamic terrorist friends.


its your right not to trust someone. my sister in law wouldn't vote for obama if he had the exact same views as her. her reason is because he's black and she can't bring herself to do it. i don't agree with her, but i can accept that as an honest view.

obama is not muslim. mccain will tell you that, just like he told that old lady. rev. wright might "hate america", but he's def not a preaching at a mosque.

wasn't it strange that clinton's rise to presidential candidate was meteoric? was he getting money from israel or hamas or hezbollah? no, he was in the right place at the right time hanging out in the right circle. or, as the bilderberg conspiracy buffs say, he was chosen by a small group of world and corporate leaders to disarm america and create a one world govt ruled by jewish reptilian bankers.

if your deathly afraid of the thought of what a muslim american president would do...fine, but base your view on actual facts

if i said mccain is a nazi, a homosexual, and a member of the british royal family hell bent on making america a british colony again, i would need some serious fact to support my claim.
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