QUOTE (moxie1c @ Oct 15 2008, 10:17 PM)

At about 10:09 10:10 Obama said that "rights" would be up for review, like the first amendment and other constitutional rights...I wish I had it word for word but my jaw dropped when I heard it.
Here it is word for word, but it says the exact opposite of what you claim:
"But what ultimately I believe is that women in consultation with their families, their doctors, their religious advisers, are in the best position to make this decision. And I think that the Constitution has a right to privacy in it
that shouldn't be subject to state referendum, any more than our First Amendment rights are subject to state referendum, any more than many of the other rights that we have should be subject to popular vote."
What about the 2A?
Although I don't agree with his health care plan, it was good to see that participation was optional and you can keep your (untaxed) employer supplied health care plan. He also said that they would try to lower your premium, but I don't know how they plan to achieve that. He said that people would have the option to BUY INTO the "same kind of federal pool" that they enjoy, I hope this means that tax payers will not foot the bill. Overall, it sounded better than the plan I assumed he was pushing, one of giveaways and tax burdens. However, I am skeptical that is will be set up in a way that that makes people pay for their own heath care and I do believe tax payers will end up paying some of the cost, that would be unacceptable. He also said that he would negotiate with pharmaceutical companies for lower costs, having a large pool of people gives them a chance to force companies to compete. He stated that this plan you cost some money upfront but pointed out that we are already picking up the escalating tab for the uninsured, and he is correct. So allowing those who are uninsured to pay for their own health care at a lower cost, IF that is how it is implemented, would help.
McCain plans on taxing my employer provided health care, which is counter productive and not in line with conservative values. He also said that we need to put medical records online(questionable), provide physical fitness and nutritional programs in schools(already done), "have" employers reward employees who join health clubs and practice wellness and fitness(useless) and give every American family a $5,000 refundable tax credit. The tax credit sounds nice, but I don't know if it will have much effect on health care, especially when this is for a whole family. McCain claims that Obama's plan is to set up health care bureaucracies, take over the health care of America through a single payer system, like Canada and England. He also stated that it would punish small businesses. Obama stated that there would be exemptions for small businesses and that "we'll" give them a 50 percent credit to help them them provide health care for their employees.
I think Obama did well in this debate and McCain looked kind of lame. I'm still not voting for either. Flame suit on.