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Ruffian72
I'm in many cities nationwide. Seen a lot of leftist protests/rallies. Such hatred in so many of these groups. 011.gif Their leaders are now in Congress and will have other power positions if Obama is elected. Ex: No ALF or ELF terrorist prosecuted while Clinton in office. ph34r.gif ACLU doesn't list LA RAZA or Black Panthers as hate groups, yet some 90's pro gun/freedom goups are. Even if they were/are multi race. rolleyes.gif IRS investigates conservative churches, yet leftist have gone unchecked for years. 015.gif Seen this same kind of hate while serving in USMC in Africa and South/Central America in the 80's. 009.gif Zell Miller type democats are now longer in congress. Lieberman is considered a right winger by these people. So called Blue Dog dems. are controled or intemidated by groups like Move On. 035.gif Many state Dem. officiials are allowing or protecting voter fraud or threatening to prosecute free/political speech that they find not to their liking. An average guy is put through leftist hell for just asking a question that embarrased their leader. Can't count the times a conservative polititian has gone out of their way to let civalized question to be asked, no matter how embarrasing. Will Obama's fallowers become the next brownshirts. 022.gif Crimes against soldiers or non leftist believers go unpunished already in liberal cities. Ex: San Fransico or Seattle. When rule of law is ignored for an agenda to be forwarded, and lawlessness is excused or defended by a groups leadership, and any questioning is punished, a citizen will have two choices: Submit or fight. 000.gif
bigj480
There is too much hate in both parties, if not more in the republican party. I agree though, if things keep progressing as they are, the shit will fit the fan.
Jeaux E
QUOTE (Ruffian72 @ Oct 19 2008, 12:49 PM) *
I'm in many cities nationwide. Seen a lot of leftist protests/rallies. Such hatred in so many of these groups. 011.gif Their leaders are now in Congress and will have other power positions if Obama is elected. Ex: No ALF or ELF terrorist prosecuted while Clinton in office. ph34r.gif ACLU doesn't list LA RAZA or Black Panthers as hate groups, yet some 90's pro gun/freedom goups are. Even if they were/are multi race. rolleyes.gif IRS investigates conservative churches, yet leftist have gone unchecked for years. 015.gif Seen this same kind of hate while serving in USMC in Africa and South/Central America in the 80's. 009.gif Zell Miller type democats are now longer in congress. Lieberman is considered a right winger by these people. So called Blue Dog dems. are controled or intemidated by groups like Move On. 035.gif Many state Dem. officiials are allowing or protecting voter fraud or threatening to prosecute free/political speech that they find not to their liking. An average guy is put through leftist hell for just asking a question that embarrased their leader. Can't count the times a conservative polititian has gone out of their way to let civalized question to be asked, no matter how embarrasing. Will Obama's fallowers become the next brownshirts. 022.gif Crimes against soldiers or non leftist believers go unpunished already in liberal cities. Ex: San Fransico or Seattle. When rule of law is ignored for an agenda to be forwarded, and lawlessness is excused or defended by a groups leadership, and any questioning is punished, a citizen will have two choices: Submit or fight. 000.gif


OMFG !!!!
You used Will's and Obama's names right next to each other !!!!
That's an unbelievable error !!! I expect you'll be hearing from Will pretty shortly about that !!!!

Unless, of course, there's something you're not telling us........................ unsure.gif
uzitiger
Remember the eighth graders dressed in fatigues saying "yes we can" aren't they considered brown shirts. Under Obama the BATFE will be the black shirts even more than they already are. This is so reminiscent of the Hitler Youth. This is the reason we need our guns to protect ourselves from them and their adult counterparts who are thirsting for white Christian and Jewish blood. This is happening here with the DemocRATs who pretend to be advocates for freedom and tolerance while being the most tyrannical and intolerant in a Stalinist way.

I grew up with many of my friends having parents who had concentration camp numbers tattooed on their arms who survived the Nazis and I don't want to be a victim the way they were to these Obama Islamic thugs.
aynew
The First American Revolution came about because of the oppression of the people by the British dictatorship.

The Civil War came about because of the oppression of the African Slaves.

The KKK arose because of the oppression of the white people by vengeful freed Slaves and the socialists of that day; the descendants of whom today call themselves democrats or liberals or progressives.

What will give rise to the Second American Civil War of Revolution?

Will the cops and generals and privates and lance corporals and sheriffs and state prosecutors and chiefs of police and gunnery sergeants and CEOs and yes, even a President, join in and slaughter Americans?
Bean.223
QUOTE (aynew @ Oct 19 2008, 06:15 PM) *
What will give rise to the Second American Civil War of Revolution?

Will the cops and generals and privates and lance corporals and sheriffs and state prosecutors and chiefs of police and gunnery sergeants and CEOs and yes, even a President, join in and slaughter Americans?



Yes, yes they will. Because the media will tell them lies i.e. those people are child rapists, or they are racists, or they are global warming deniers. No matter what there are plenty of fools that will believe. Why do you think Obama is even in this race for president? Because he has been lifted to god status by our media.

Getting back on topic, I think the only hope this Union has in staying together is to give the States back their power from the federal government. See In our current form, the beliefs of some are forced upon many. For instance, Global Warming as mentioned, must be paid for in tax subsides because some asshole in Cali, or the NE believes our cars cause it. When in fact there is no solid proof this is the case. And of course the majority of the states are forced to abide by these federal green laws they don't believe in. So I think this is the only solution. The alternative is states/people endlessly fighting to the political death over issues like Abortion, global warming, guns rights, mexican invasin, etc. At some point (and we are close) people are going to come to the dangerous type of thinking that "Those people over there are going to let our country destroy the planet, for the sake of man kind we must kill our countrymen" I believe on these critical issues each state should make their own minds up.
Ruffian72
Uzitiger, My uncle was 13 when the Warsaw ghetto fell. Escaped through the sewers. Came to US in 48. Just, that even supporters of McCain in certain parts of the US are fearful to put out yard signs, or put a bumper sticker on their vehicle. An Obama sticker in my area is respected. I just shake head, knowing a kool-aid drinker or slacker. We kid our sheriff, he's a democrat. Just that 20yrs ago, the incumbent was a republican, and it was to hard to run as an independent. It's just that the main backers don't tolerate any dissent. My granddad, A Truman democrat, would have rolled over in his grave. He never supported a dem. after what Carter did. It's just that the conservative dems. are no more allowed a voice, without fear of retribution. Can't say that about the national Repulicans only being idealogs, how else could have McCain, got nominated. I'm libertarian. 000.gif P.S. Apologize to Will. Didn't know his last name was Obama. rolleyes.gif
Jeaux E
QUOTE (aynew @ Oct 19 2008, 05:15 PM) *
The Civil War came about because of the oppression of the African Slaves.
WRONG.
You've been reading those historically revisionist history books, haven't you....??
The Civil War came about for the same reason that most wars come about...... Financial interest. The Union blockaded Charleston Harbor to prevent the South from exporting resources, primarily cotton, to France.......The South was tired of being screwed out of its rightful return on its products by the central gov't, and started selling it abroad in Europe, which really pissed the Union off (read textile industries in the industrialized North).
The freeing of the slaves had nothing to do with the onset of the Civil War, and was enacted only as a afterthought.

The KKK arose because of the oppression of the white people by vengeful freed Slaves and the socialists of that day; the descendants of whom today call themselves democrats or liberals or progressives.
WRONG.

The KKK originally arose as a community benevolent society for the purpose of reining in drunkards, gamblers, and wifebeaters....... Groups of hooded men of the community would pay visits to people in their communities to point out the errors of the offending citizens ways.......
The Klan you are referring to came much later, and was a result of racism and intolerance in later days..........


Just a couple of things that I don't readily accept revisionism on...............
bigj480
QUOTE (Jeaux E @ Oct 19 2008, 07:54 PM) *
QUOTE (aynew @ Oct 19 2008, 05:15 PM) *
The Civil War came about because of the oppression of the African Slaves.
WRONG.
You've been reading those historically revisionist history books, haven't you....??
The Civil War came about for the same reason that most wars come about...... Financial interest. The Union blockaded Charleston Harbor to prevent the South from exporting resources, primarily cotton, to France.......The South was tired of being screwed out of its rightful return on its products by the central gov't, and started selling it abroad in Europe, which really pissed the Union off (read textile industries in the industrialized North).
The freeing of the slaves had nothing to do with the onset of the Civil War, and was enacted only as a afterthought.

The KKK arose because of the oppression of the white people by vengeful freed Slaves and the socialists of that day; the descendants of whom today call themselves democrats or liberals or progressives.
WRONG.

The KKK originally arose as a community benevolent society for the purpose of reining in drunkards, gamblers, and wifebeaters....... Groups of hooded men of the community would pay visits to people in their communities to point out the errors of the offending citizens ways.......
The Klan you are referring to came much later, and was a result of racism and intolerance in later days..........


Just a couple of things that I don't readily accept revisionism on...............


Fuck yeah! I was about to post the same thing! The KKK as defenders of the white race? rolleyes.gif
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