SHOOTERBOY
Nov 10 2008, 01:35 AM
Now it seems like the price of 7.62X39 is going up faster than ever and all the suppliers have run out! I feel a little panicked that I need to add to my stash and wanted to ask, how much ammo do you think you should have in reserve and how much are you sitting on right now?
JonTheSavage
Nov 10 2008, 01:44 AM
I just ordered another 1k, giving me 3.25k.
lonerider
Nov 10 2008, 02:03 AM
I've only got 840 rounds left

been shootin' some lately, practicin'.
Ruffian72
Nov 10 2008, 12:59 PM
In general 1,000 to 2,000rds per weapon. Have more, yet good general rule. Just replace as practice. Not so hard on wallet that way. Or on budget, have at least twice as much as combat carry.
Shellshock1918
Nov 10 2008, 01:30 PM
If everyone would just stop PANICKING it would not dry up and prices would not go up. But no, people bed wet and cause this chaos. Same thing with the gas situation in the south-east two months ago.
jbauch357
Nov 10 2008, 03:16 PM
I started stocking up about a year ago for all of my guns, and now have a good supply of SHTF ammo. It stays in the closet in air tight ammo cans with anti-rust ozone generating tablets.
I am having a hard time finding decent prices on ammo for regular plinking/practice purposes though...
ernestmayhand
Nov 10 2008, 03:17 PM
Speaking on prices going up in the gun world, I'm no expert in capitalism or economics but you'd think the gun prices would go down with this panic fear of a ban situation. I guess if everyone wasn't panicking that is. If the companies have all these guns that might be banned, wouldn't the price go down so they can ensure they'll get rid of them all before a ban? I guess that just can't happen because of all the people who wait 'til the ban scare and then go buy bunches of rifles etc. Same with the ammo. Yay or nay?
3mta3
Nov 10 2008, 03:27 PM
QUOTE (Shellshock1918 @ Nov 10 2008, 01:28 PM)

If everyone would just stop PANICKING it would not dry up and prices would not go up. But no, people bed wet and cause this chaos. Same thing with the gas situation in the south-east two months ago.
Took the words right out of my mouth.
SHOOTERBOY
Nov 11 2008, 11:02 AM
QUOTE (3mta3 @ Nov 10 2008, 01:25 PM)

QUOTE (Shellshock1918 @ Nov 10 2008, 01:28 PM)

If everyone would just stop PANICKING it would not dry up and prices would not go up. But no, people bed wet and cause this chaos. Same thing with the gas situation in the south-east two months ago.
Took the words right out of my mouth.
Here's the other kicker- ammo prices should be WAY down! The run up in costs last year and this were supposedly due to 1. wars driving up demand, and 2. commodity prices for copper, brass, lead, etc. being driven by international demand, primarily from the emerging economies. Well, if you look at the markets you'll note that all that stuff is trading at about 1/2 or even less than the peak, yet we're still paying top dollar. We started to see a little easing of prices a few weeks ago, but the election changed all that. The prices really could go down due to folks trying to unload what will be unsellable items, but the demand seems to drive it. I see that some merchants are now charging $100 for a folding Ruger 10/22 stock while Natchez has discounted them to $65! Any price hikes since the election are all greed and hype.
desert dog
Nov 11 2008, 11:47 AM
SHOOTERBOY,
You couldnt be more right! I deal metals for a living. The mills are so overloaded with brass right now, I cant even sell. One of the world's largest brass operations (in China) just shut down this month. Lead is way down too. This is the worst market for metals in 10 years.
This price hike has more to do with fear of Obama's policy that the cost of manufacture.
MacMan
Nov 11 2008, 07:32 PM
QUOTE (jbauch357 @ Nov 10 2008, 03:14 PM)

I started stocking up about a year ago for all of my guns, and now have a good supply of SHTF ammo. It stays in the closet in air tight ammo cans with anti-rust ozone generating tablets.
I am having a hard time finding decent prices on ammo for regular plinking/practice purposes though...
Would you care to tell us where you get the rust inhibiting tablets, and how much they cost? Thanks bro.
Ak addict
Nov 11 2008, 07:58 PM
I doubt there is going to be a total ban anytime soon. I think the liberal retards learned something the first time. They had the same control over congress when Bill Clinton (spit) was elected. Then came the ban, and they lost control of the congress the next round of elections. They will sneak it in a step at a time. Then one day the sheeple will wake up and wonder what happened. Not an argument against stocking up, but just a feeling.
SHOOTERBOY
Nov 11 2008, 08:34 PM
QUOTE (Ak addict @ Nov 11 2008, 04:56 PM)

I doubt there is going to be a total ban anytime soon. I think the liberal retards learned something the first time. They had the same control over congress when Bill Clinton (spit) was elected. Then came the ban, and they lost control of the congress the next round of elections. They will sneak it in a step at a time. Then one day the sheeple will wake up and wonder what happened. Not an argument against stocking up, but just a feeling.
AKA
I really like your notion that the liberals have learned something but I'm afraid you're giving them way too much credit. The anti advocates are licking their lips waiting for the opportunity to propose legislation. I think the only thing saving us in the short run is the horrible state of the economy, the wars and the new social agenda. Income redistribution (how to pay for the economy and they wars and the social agenda) will also be a busy task. But trust me, they'll get to us in due time.
Hell, I'm stocking up! I can't imagine the prices going down.
bigdaddyrandall
Nov 11 2008, 08:43 PM
Sportsmans guide wolf 7.62 x 39 just over $200.00 a thousand happy shooting!!!!!!!!!!
SHOOTERBOY
Nov 11 2008, 09:15 PM
[quote name='bigdaddyrandall' post='281129' date='Nov 11 2008, 05:41 PM']Sportsmans guide 7.62 x 39 just over $200.00 a thousand happy shooting!!!!!!!!!
Sportsmans guide 7.62 x 39 just over $200.00 a thousand happy shooting!!!!!!!!!!
There's still a couple of good deals:
AIM surplus has
Item#A762x39Rom
New Production 7.62x39 ammunition manufactured under the Hot Shot brand in Romania. Features a 123grn Full Bi-Metal Jacket bullet, Laquer coated steel case, and Non-Corrosive Berdan primer. Packaged 20rds/box, and 700rds/can 700rd can SALE: $129.95
AMMOMAN has 1,000 for $249 delivered
I just ordered 1260 from Samco Global (Brass Yugoslovian) for $263 plus shipping
Shellshock1918
Nov 12 2008, 12:01 PM
EVERYONE,
Stop panicking. Calm down. He does not take office until Jan 20, 2 months away. Its AMMO, not guns or magazines. Obama will have plenty on his plate(war, economy) to be worried about doing away with guns.
If they immediately went after guns it would show that they don't have their priorities straight and plummet his support.
Calm down, we have plenty of time. Tell your friends, just calm down.
shooter45acp
Nov 12 2008, 03:55 PM
QUOTE (Shellshock1918 @ Nov 12 2008, 11:59 AM)

EVERYONE,
Stop panicking. Calm down. He does not take office until Jan 20, 2 months away. Its AMMO, not guns or magazines. Obama will have plenty on his plate(war, economy) to be worried about doing away with guns.
If they immediately went after guns it would show that they don't have their priorities straight and plummet his support.
Calm down, we have plenty of time. Tell your friends, just calm down.
I think Shellshock is right. We need to stay calm about this after all we do still have 2 months before "Adolf" Oboma
gets in office. I thing he will have enough shit on his plate.
saigatyler
Nov 12 2008, 04:08 PM
i am all for calming down. but the gander mountain in harrisburg has been selling out of everything. even as someone who knows that being calm is the best thing to day i have the feeling that to many idiots are out there who just dont get it. i believe that people will drive prices so far up that when us calm people do decide to buy it'll cost us more and or product wont be there at all. we are almost completely out of 38 specia l ammo. we've never been in this situation before. vendors cant send stuff fast enough for us.
vujade
Nov 12 2008, 05:37 PM
anyone know if ammo makers Up-ed what they produce to help with this or are we all fighting for the same amount?
McabanissII
Nov 12 2008, 09:43 PM
QUOTE (Shellshock1918 @ Nov 12 2008, 11:59 AM)

EVERYONE,
Stop panicking. Calm down. He does not take office until Jan 20, 2 months away. Its AMMO, not guns or magazines. Obama will have plenty on his plate(war, economy) to be worried about doing away with guns.
If they immediately went after guns it would show that they don't have their priorities straight and plummet his support.
Calm down, we have plenty of time. Tell your friends, just calm down.
My thoughts exactly! BTW what part of NC are you from? Im from shelby,1 hr from charlotte.
SHOOTERBOY
Nov 12 2008, 10:38 PM
QUOTE (Shellshock1918 @ Nov 12 2008, 08:59 AM)

EVERYONE,
Stop panicking. Calm down. He does not take office until Jan 20, 2 months away. Its AMMO, not guns or magazines. Obama will have plenty on his plate(war, economy) to be worried about doing away with guns.
If they immediately went after guns it would show that they don't have their priorities straight and plummet his support.
Calm down, we have plenty of time. Tell your friends, just calm down.
Shellshock,
You're right. As I mentioned earlier, prices should be down because of the commodity demand worldwide, and Osama I mean Obama will definitely have his plate full with economics. However, as an investor I like to buy low and sell high, and I'm just afraid that right now is a low. I hope I'm wrong, but I want to have something to practice with and not pay a buck a round in a year or two as well as have something set aside for what may come.
If the pandemonium abates and prices drop to less than 1/2 as the market would suggest then nobody will be happier than me! But in the meantime I'll be hedging my bet!
Shellshock1918
Nov 12 2008, 10:59 PM
QUOTE (McabanissII @ Nov 12 2008, 09:41 PM)

QUOTE (Shellshock1918 @ Nov 12 2008, 11:59 AM)

EVERYONE,
Stop panicking. Calm down. He does not take office until Jan 20, 2 months away. Its AMMO, not guns or magazines. Obama will have plenty on his plate(war, economy) to be worried about doing away with guns.
If they immediately went after guns it would show that they don't have their priorities straight and plummet his support.
Calm down, we have plenty of time. Tell your friends, just calm down.
My thoughts exactly! BTW what part of NC are you from? Im from shelby,1 hr from charlotte.
Boone.
Berzerker
Nov 13 2008, 07:40 PM
Click to view attachmentI too am thinking Osama Obama will have a lot on his plate to start out. He is aware of the scrutiny he is under from the 2A community out there. I will still keep my eyes open never the less for ammo deals as my budget will allow. We have a rough 4 years ahead and I still think he will do his darndest to do us harm without making it seem that way. He is a manipulator and a slick talker but his past is there for us all to see.
1911
Nov 13 2008, 11:37 PM
QUOTE (Shellshock1918 @ Nov 12 2008, 11:59 AM)

EVERYONE,
Stop panicking. Calm down. He does not take office until Jan 20, 2 months away. Its AMMO, not guns or magazines. Obama will have plenty on his plate(war, economy) to be worried about doing away with guns.
If they immediately went after guns it would show that they don't have their priorities straight and plummet his support.
Calm down, we have plenty of time. Tell your friends, just calm down.
I hear what you have repeatedly posted many, many times, "Stop panicking. Calm down.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" I don't agree and if I wish to purchase $50,000 worth of ammuition, what is it to you? By what tremendous qualification do you encourage sheeple to follow you? Age? Experience? Common Sense? God (heaven forbid) given revelation? Share with us the vast reserve of your crystal ball knowledge. Many agree and many do not, who made you the professor? We all hear your perspective and have considered itl Were you around and involved in the 1994 ban, the temporary 1988 AWB ban, the 1968 GCA? Let each individual follow their own gut geeling and destiny.
1911
Shellshock1918
Nov 14 2008, 12:27 AM
QUOTE (1911 @ Nov 13 2008, 11:35 PM)

QUOTE (Shellshock1918 @ Nov 12 2008, 11:59 AM)

EVERYONE,
Stop panicking. Calm down. He does not take office until Jan 20, 2 months away. Its AMMO, not guns or magazines. Obama will have plenty on his plate(war, economy) to be worried about doing away with guns.
If they immediately went after guns it would show that they don't have their priorities straight and plummet his support.
Calm down, we have plenty of time. Tell your friends, just calm down.
I hear what you have repeatedly posted many, many times, "Stop panicking. Calm down.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" I don't agree and if I wish to purchase $50,000 worth of ammuition, what is it to you? By what tremendous qualification do you encourage sheeple to follow you? Age? Experience? Common Sense? God (heaven forbid) given revelation? Share with us the vast reserve of your crystal ball knowledge. Many agree and many do not, who made you the professor? We all hear your perspective and have considered itl Were you around and involved in the 1994 ban, the temporary 1988 AWB ban, the 1968 GCA? Let each individual follow their own gut geeling and destiny.
1911
You are free to do as you wish. Did I ever say that I have all the answers? I merely expressed my opinion and advice to shooters.
Ultimately, a panic will drive prices up, which hurts all gun owners. Its simple economics.
Whatever grudge you seem to have against me, I suggest you drop it, it won't do you any good.
Jeff M
Nov 15 2008, 09:44 AM
I don't think you'll see a drop in prices until legislation gets proposed.
QUOTE (Shellshock1918 @ Nov 12 2008, 11:59 AM)

Its AMMO, not guns or magazines.
There has been some talk that they may try to ban ammo or put ridiculous taxes on it.
bigj480
Nov 15 2008, 03:15 PM
No one knows what will happen, obviously. That said, as far as ammo goes, some things are likely to happen. Increasing taxes on ammo and banning the import of ammo being the two most likely restrictions. I'm not buying anything at overly inflated prices, but that doesn't mean I'm not nervous.
Kwicko
Nov 16 2008, 03:06 AM
QUOTE (bigj480 @ Nov 15 2008, 04:13 PM)

No one knows what will happen, obviously. That said, as far as ammo goes, some things are likely to happen. Increasing taxes on ammo and banning the import of ammo being the two most likely restrictions. I'm not buying anything at overly inflated prices, but that doesn't mean I'm not nervous.
Bingo. I'm not panicked at all, but if I see a good deal, I'm buying. Picked up an extra 1500 rounds of 7.62 at Academy when it was on sale ($161.00/1000), because it's a better price than I've been paying lately. I've laid in at least 1000 rounds for each of my calibers of choice (9mm, 7.62x39, 7.62x54r). It's not all I want, but it'll do for now... unless I find a good deal again.
What I'm *not* doing is buying into the panic and grabbing whatever is around at whatever price is being charged today. Most of us here knew there were likely to be changes coming, and have known it pretty much since the AWB sunsetted in '04, so we've been quietly buying up the things we want in anticipation of them not being available (at least cheaply) for much longer.
I *DON'T* think an outright ban (or a confiscation order) is coming, but I *DO* think that SOMETHING will come; we've already seen an expanded AWB bill introduced into Congress in June. I don't think my firearms of choice will be outlawed overnight, but I don't think they'll be as easy to get in the future, either. That's why I've made an effort to get what I want while the gettin's been relatively good.
The people who are panicking now seem to be the ones who never, ever would have even WANTED an "assault weapon" until the fear of not being able to get one set in. And the harder they are to find, the more people try to jostle and deal for what's out there.
If I were a smarter man than I am, I'd have taken money out of retirement and stock market and bought pallets of ammo and rifles, and I'd be MAKING money in this economy, instead of watching its worth plummet...
Mike
1911
Nov 16 2008, 09:11 AM
QUOTE (Kwicko @ Nov 16 2008, 03:04 AM)

QUOTE (bigj480 @ Nov 15 2008, 04:13 PM)

No one knows what will happen, obviously. That said, as far as ammo goes, some things are likely to happen. Increasing taxes on ammo and banning the import of ammo being the two most likely restrictions. I'm not buying anything at overly inflated prices, but that doesn't mean I'm not nervous.
Bingo. I'm not panicked at all, but if I see a good deal, I'm buying. Picked up an extra 1500 rounds of 7.62 at Academy when it was on sale ($161.00/1000), because it's a better price than I've been paying lately. I've laid in at least 1000 rounds for each of my calibers of choice (9mm, 7.62x39, 7.62x54r). It's not all I want, but it'll do for now... unless I find a good deal again.
What I'm *not* doing is buying into the panic and grabbing whatever is around at whatever price is being charged today. Most of us here knew there were likely to be changes coming, and have known it pretty much since the AWB sunsetted in '04, so we've been quietly buying up the things we want in anticipation of them not being available (at least cheaply) for much longer.
I *DON'T* think an outright ban (or a confiscation order) is coming, but I *DO* think that SOMETHING will come; we've already seen an expanded AWB bill introduced into Congress in June. I don't think my firearms of choice will be outlawed overnight, but I don't think they'll be as easy to get in the future, either. That's why I've made an effort to get what I want while the gettin's been relatively good.
The people who are panicking now seem to be the ones who never, ever would have even WANTED an "assault weapon" until the fear of not being able to get one set in. And the harder they are to find, the more people try to jostle and deal for what's out there.
If I were a smarter man than I am, I'd have taken money out of retirement and stock market and bought pallets of ammo and rifles, and I'd be MAKING money in this economy, instead of watching its worth plummet... Mike
Ain't that the truth! This has issue has been discussed for at least the last year and I am in agreement that most of us already have the weapons/ammo that we want. I am also strongly in favor of free market forces being given full reign as they have given us the Tulip Mania if 1637 and the Beanie Baby Mania of a few years ago. THere is always a chance to make money regardless of the market forces if as you say "you're smart enough".
1911
Shellshock1918
Nov 16 2008, 12:42 PM
QUOTE (Jeff M @ Nov 15 2008, 09:42 AM)

I don't think you'll see a drop in prices until legislation gets proposed.
I don't see how proposed legislation would cause prices to lower. If anything, it will cause them to increase.
bigjimcalhoun
Nov 16 2008, 08:38 PM
I don't think Obama needs legislation. Didn't Clinton sign an executive order banning Chinese rifles and ammo?
http://www.conservativeusa.org/eo/clinton.htmSome are speculating, some are hoping, that Obama will do the same.
Personally, I am not running out and buying everything I need forever, but I did get some parts for an AR-15 and an 800 round tin of 7.62 that bring my total of 7.62 to 1200 rounds along with just a 20 round box of .223.
SHOOTERBOY
Nov 16 2008, 10:15 PM
If I had only known last December what I know now, like Kwicko, I would have done similarly with my financial planning!
However, I didn't, and I have 10 calibers to feed: .22, .25, .380, 9mm, 38spl, .357, 7.62.54, 7.62.39, .410, 12gauge, and 30/30, with the bulk of my supply is in the .22, 38spl, 9mm, and X39. I don't know whether they'll want to treat all ammo similarly, or focus on handgun and assault rounds, so I've focused on those three lately.
DizzyV6P
Nov 17 2008, 05:34 PM
If everyone were to call their Congressman and Senators, then there would be less panic. Obama is going to have more than enough on his plate as someone else pointed out. In addition, he will be loath to piss off the conservative Blue Dog Democrats so early in the game as well. In case folks already forgot, this block of Democrats joined forces with the Republicans to kill the first edition of the Bail-out Plan. Then they joined forces again and killed the 2nd edition. He will also run the risk of losing the support of some Southern, Midwest and Western state Democrats as well since many of them have many pro-gun constituents to worry about.
I've already spoken to my own Hill contacts and have been assured that they intend to oppose any 2A restrictions. Also, let's not forget the Supreme Court decision in Heller. Personally, if I find a good deal, I'll get it. Otherwise, I'll wait til the panic drops. Wait till December when Xmas shopping is in full swing and you might find these folks selling their ammo and AK's for Xmas money.
Shellshock1918
Nov 17 2008, 07:26 PM
QUOTE (DizzyV6P @ Nov 17 2008, 05:32 PM)

If everyone were to call their Congressman and Senators, then there would be less panic. Obama is going to have more than enough on his plate as someone else pointed out. In addition, he will be loath to piss off the conservative Blue Dog Democrats so early in the game as well. In case folks already forgot, this block of Democrats joined forces with the Republicans to kill the first edition of the Bail-out Plan. Then they joined forces again and killed the 2nd edition.
Uh, the 2nd version passed.
Kwicko
Nov 20 2008, 12:20 AM
QUOTE
If everyone were to call their Congressman and Senators, then there would be less panic. Obama is going to have more than enough on his plate as someone else pointed out. In addition, he will be loath to piss off the conservative Blue Dog Democrats so early in the game as well.
Correct-a-mundo! Don't complain here, complain in a written letter or a phone call to your Senators and Representatives. I've been telling mine that while I'm generally a laid-back guy, that attitude doesn't apply to my Second Amendment rights, and if they vote against those, I will absolutely be voting against THEM next time around. I'm in a red state, and both my Senators are Republicans, but my Representative is a Democrat, and he NEEDS every single vote he can get - even from folks like me. On the plus side, he DID vote against the Wall Street bailout both times, so he can't be all bad...
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