kwelhand
Nov 15 2008, 07:18 PM
I'm looking for Saiga 7.62 and could not locate one.
Does anyone know where to find one in NIB?
What's reasonable price?
Is Arsenal saiga worth the extra money?
Vermiform
Nov 15 2008, 08:02 PM
All the distributors are out. The last shipment was all Saiga-12s. I have been searching for another one high and low. Gunbroker has some going up every once in a while, but they are usally asking a premium and getting it.
The next shipment of 7.62x39s with be in December, so I am told. Hopefully by then the hysteria will have died down some and everyone will be focused on regular AKs and not our precious Saigas. In the meantime, don't go running your mouth about how good Saigas are and how after they are the best AK you can get once properly converted. Lets just all keep it to ourselves and then buy up all the good rifles when they come in.
Indyk
Nov 15 2008, 08:06 PM
QUOTE (kwelhand @ Nov 15 2008, 07:16 PM)

I'm looking for Saiga 7.62 and could not locate one.
Does anyone know where to find one in NIB?
What's reasonable price?
Is Arsenal saiga worth the extra money?
Ive seen more than a few 308's, 410, 20, and a few 12's no 7.62
More than likely you will not fine one,,, if you find one it will be expensive.
RAA told me the next batch of Saigas will be here next month.
The prices i have seen have been 380.00-425.00 @gun shows 400.00+
How much will they be?
Time will tell.
Gas Giant
Nov 15 2008, 09:28 PM
holy crap, even Gilberts is out,...
no wonder I could only find wolf 7.62 x 39 ammo at the store
kwelhand
Nov 24 2008, 10:00 PM
QUOTE (Vermiform @ Nov 15 2008, 08:00 PM)

All the distributors are out. The last shipment was all Saiga-12s. I have been searching for another one high and low. Gunbroker has some going up every once in a while, but they are usally asking a premium and getting it.
The next shipment of 7.62x39s with be in December, so I am told. Hopefully by then the hysteria will have died down some and everyone will be focused on regular AKs and not our precious Saigas. In the meantime, don't go running your mouth about how good Saigas are and how after they are the best AK you can get once properly converted. Lets just all keep it to ourselves and then buy up all the good rifles when they come in.
lol... I had over dozen of Aks but Saiga was the best.
Stupid me... I sold it a few months ago and now I need it back.
nfafan
Nov 25 2008, 12:14 AM
QUOTE (Vermiform @ Nov 15 2008, 08:00 PM)

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In the meantime, don't go running your mouth about how good Saigas are and how after they are the best AK you can get once properly converted. Lets just all keep it to ourselves and then buy up all the good rifles when they come in.
Its been exactly that which has driven the Saigas out of stock and at escalating prices. it took me months to get mine - but I can't complain, 16", dimpled, and with the Y stamp.
Anytime I've ever seen a "which AK should I get" post - someone opens their mouth about the cheap, $200.00 Saiga and how easy it is to convert.
Now they can't be found.
You Saiga fans are victems of your own success.
dillwad
Nov 25 2008, 10:33 AM
Have you tried pawn shops. My son and I went in to one here in town last week, they had two 7.62's a 16in and a 20in
The guy said the 20in was new asking 325 or so
the 16 in was used asking 280 or so I don't remember exactly but those prices are close.
have a great Thanksgiving
Kwicko
Nov 25 2008, 09:17 PM
QUOTE (dillwad @ Nov 25 2008, 10:31 AM)

Have you tried pawn shops. My son and I went in to one here in town last week, they had two 7.62's a 16in and a 20in
The guy said the 20in was new asking 325 or so
the 16 in was used asking 280 or so I don't remember exactly but those prices are close.
have a great Thanksgiving
I think at those prices I'd have walked out of the pawn shop with two Saigas!
seal20
Nov 26 2008, 01:53 AM
ddsranch.com has 2 @ $429 I think this will be the minimum going rate moving forward.
dillwad
Nov 26 2008, 09:19 AM
I am going to today or friday to pick it up. The 16in one Christmas present
Fluid Power
Nov 26 2008, 09:52 AM
My local dealer said the next shippment from RA will be higer priced. He was not sure but thought he'd have to sell for $479.00 - 7.62x39 16" standard stock. He was told the price from Russia is much higher. As these are 2008 rifles the last batch was from 2006 and early 2007. At the time the dollar was weak, inflation up, raw materials throught the roof and fuel and energy up. No election issue. Man times have changed!
"Now is not the time for doubt"
Frosty
jammer72
Nov 26 2008, 06:13 PM
QUOTE (seal20 @ Nov 26 2008, 01:51 AM)

ddsranch.com has 2 @ $429 I think this will be the minimum going rate moving forward.
They have 1 left now. I just picked one up myself.
Myetball
Nov 28 2008, 10:16 PM
I just picked up my first Saiga in 7.62 a couple days ago. There were several 7.62's on the shelf, they had recently got a shipment in. Here in San Antonio, they have a harder time keeping the .308 and .223's in stock. The 7.62's are $395 for short barrel w/monte carlo stock, $469 for the short barrel skeleton stock. The .308's and .223's are quite a bit more.
I go to this shop regularly and have been kicking myself since 4 Nov for not buying an AK style weapon previously. Could have saved a bunch of money. They had always had an abundance of AR's and AK's in stock in various forms/calibers but the shelves were empty up until last week. Then a bunch of WARS 10's and Saiga's came in. AR's are still like gold and now go for $1,700 minimum from this shop.
However, I was at Academy Sports recently and they had plenty of S&W M&P's and Bushmaster Optics Ready Carbines. Nice thing about Academy Sports, they're a big chain and don't raise their prices like the local shops. The Bushmaster ORC is still $899.
Just a comment on gun shops justifying the price raising by claiming their supplier has jacked up the price. I get this every time I go into a local shop. Even got it the week of 4 Nov when I commented on the price of all AR and AK varients going up $250-350 per gun. Of course at that time, all the guns on the shelf had been there for months and the guy I was talking to, know him from where I work, was only helping out that day and would have had no insight into historical pricing. I don't buy the distributor excuse for a minute, it's just something they're all programmed to tell us so we don't get mad at the shop owner. Shop owners know they're going pretty much out of the AR/AK business in a few months and are trying to get what they can while they can. Can't really blame them but at least they could be honest about it.
1911
Nov 28 2008, 10:22 PM
http://forum.saiga-12.com/index.php?showtopic=32173&hl=Not NIB but looks to be a fair deal. Hope it helps.
1911
BobAsh
Nov 28 2008, 10:29 PM
QUOTE (kwelhand @ Nov 15 2008, 06:16 PM)

Is Arsenal saiga worth the extra money?
Yes. Get one if you can.
Morgan
Dec 1 2008, 11:19 AM
benfolds81
Dec 2 2008, 12:41 AM
I bought one five days after the election on Gunbroker for $299+ $20 shipping + $25 transfer fee.
I feel very lucky to have picked mine up at the same price I saw them on websites before those all sold out.
Myetball
Dec 2 2008, 05:08 PM
Anyone in San Antonio or the surrounding areas can check out the Powder Horn. I just went back today and here's what they had on the rack:
Seven short barrel 7.62x39; $395
Three short barrel .223; $395
Two or three short barrel .308; $599
One or two long barrel .308; $619
One short barrel .308 w/skeleton stock; $649
(I'm positive of the 7.62, 223 and 308 skeleton prices, the long/short 308 I'm close if not right on)
Then I walked over to the pre-sale are for used guns. He had a few Saigas (7.62, 223, S12, and 308) waiting to be priced and put up for sale. I put my name/number on a used .308 w/skeleton stock. Hopefully I'll get first chance at it.
Unfortunately, the owner is anti-internet so no web site.
bb_ws6
Dec 7 2008, 08:57 PM
You guys seen any more hit the market? I have seen some Saiga 12's around for $550-$600 but no 7.62x39's.
bb_ws6
Dec 7 2008, 09:00 PM
QUOTE (Myetball @ Dec 2 2008, 05:08 PM)

Then I walked over to the pre-sale are for used guns. He had a few Saigas (7.62, 223, S12, and 308) waiting to be priced and put up for sale. I put my name/number on a used .308 w/skeleton stock. Hopefully I'll get first chance at it.
Unfortunately, the owner is anti-internet so no web site.
Want to talk to the owner and see if he will sell over the phone to me? Will he ship to an FFL?
protected static
Dec 8 2008, 12:13 AM
Discount Gun Sales in Seattle has both Arsenal and RAA versions. They want
$379 for the RAA and
$699 (and up) for the Arsenal. As of the middle of last week, they had the 16" RAA carbine and the SGL-10 on the wall in the Lake City/Seattle location; can't say about any other Arsenal models.
bb_ws6
Dec 8 2008, 07:18 PM
QUOTE (protected static @ Dec 8 2008, 12:13 AM)

Discount Gun Sales in Seattle has both Arsenal and RAA versions. They want
$379 for the RAA and
$699 (and up) for the Arsenal. As of the middle of last week, they had the 16" RAA carbine and the SGL-10 on the wall in the Lake City/Seattle location; can't say about any other Arsenal models.
Just called. They're out...
protected static
Dec 8 2008, 09:22 PM
Ouch. The 7.62x39 Arsenals were all 'call for availability,' but the RAA carbine still had a 'buy now' button on their site when I posted last night...
Myetball
Dec 9 2008, 09:06 AM
QUOTE (bb_ws6 @ Dec 7 2008, 08:00 PM)

QUOTE (Myetball @ Dec 2 2008, 05:08 PM)

Then I walked over to the pre-sale are for used guns. He had a few Saigas (7.62, 223, S12, and 308) waiting to be priced and put up for sale. I put my name/number on a used .308 w/skeleton stock. Hopefully I'll get first chance at it.
Unfortunately, the owner is anti-internet so no web site.
Want to talk to the owner and see if he will sell over the phone to me? Will he ship to an FFL?
The number is (210) 674-5220. I've never asked them about out of town sales but imagine if you get an FFL to send them their license they'll ship.
jtc49
Dec 9 2008, 12:27 PM
I just called the Powder Horn. They will not sell and ship guns out of town.
bb_ws6
Dec 9 2008, 10:20 PM
Found em' .223, 7.63x39 and .308 at gilberts guns $379, $379 and $499 respectively.
I got a x39 and my dad got a .223
Screw Obama and HR 1022
elguapo
Dec 10 2008, 03:42 AM
I am so glad I got mine back in March: Paid $348 OTD: Back then, I thought I was getting rakedover the coals...........
Today? me thinks I was fortunate.
Myetball
Dec 11 2008, 10:44 PM
Looks like
Arms of America may have them in stock. Priced fairly considering today's market.
SHOOTERBOY
Dec 12 2008, 12:38 AM
QUOTE (Myetball @ Dec 11 2008, 07:44 PM)

Looks like
Arms of America may have them in stock. Priced fairly considering today's market.
I just clicked on every one of their Saigas, each was a "fatal error". Maybe that's webspeak for out of stock?
superA
Dec 12 2008, 08:37 AM
Gilbert's Guns has 7.62x39, .223 & .308 in stock.
naveed
Dec 14 2008, 07:37 AM
QUOTE (superA @ Dec 12 2008, 08:37 AM)

Gilbert's Guns has 7.62x39, .223 & .308 in stock.
They're the no longer on their site. I went to purchase one yesterday and I guess they already sold out. Sucks. Wonder when I'm gonna find one.
flclisgreat
Dec 14 2008, 10:42 PM
QUOTE (naveed @ Dec 14 2008, 07:37 AM)

QUOTE (superA @ Dec 12 2008, 08:37 AM)

Gilbert's Guns has 7.62x39, .223 & .308 in stock.
They're the no longer on their site. I went to purchase one yesterday and I guess they already sold out. Sucks. Wonder when I'm gonna find one.
i want one to

. or a reasonable AK.
HunterDan
Dec 15 2008, 09:08 AM
QUOTE (flclisgreat @ Dec 14 2008, 10:42 PM)

QUOTE (naveed @ Dec 14 2008, 07:37 AM)

QUOTE (superA @ Dec 12 2008, 08:37 AM)

Gilbert's Guns has 7.62x39, .223 & .308 in stock.
They're the no longer on their site. I went to purchase one yesterday and I guess they already sold out. Sucks. Wonder when I'm gonna find one.
i want one to

. or a reasonable AK.
There is one on GB for 399 buy now.(7.62x39NIB)
naveed
Dec 15 2008, 10:18 AM
QUOTE (HunterDan @ Dec 15 2008, 09:08 AM)

QUOTE (flclisgreat @ Dec 14 2008, 10:42 PM)

QUOTE (naveed @ Dec 14 2008, 07:37 AM)

QUOTE (superA @ Dec 12 2008, 08:37 AM)

Gilbert's Guns has 7.62x39, .223 & .308 in stock.
They're the no longer on their site. I went to purchase one yesterday and I guess they already sold out. Sucks. Wonder when I'm gonna find one.
i want one to

. or a reasonable AK.
There is one on GB for 399 buy now.(7.62x39NIB)
I saw that one on gunbroker. It's used. Gilberts guns had new ones for less. It's this anxiety that's killing everyone about what's gonna happen these next couple years. I got a custom build from lancaster arms, cost me 6 and change and now its well over 900 dollars. And nothing has even happened yet. The mags have doubled in price and it's not even economical to buy wolf anymore. Wolf! Who would think. I got rid of most of my rifles to shoot 7.62 x 39 because it was economically feasible for me. And now even that is in question.
Prodge
Dec 15 2008, 02:30 PM
Yup, the ammo prices are driving me crazy too...like you said even Wolf is through the rough!!!

QUOTE (naveed @ Dec 15 2008, 10:18 AM)

Wolf! Who would think. I got rid of most of my rifles to shoot 7.62 x 39 because it was economically feasible for me. And now even that is in question.
superA
Dec 15 2008, 02:36 PM
I sold my AR to finance my AK. I hated doing it but I saw the way things were going and figured I would have a better chance getting an AR than an AK. Good luck.
Fluid Power
Dec 15 2008, 03:12 PM
None at the gun show in ST. Paul this past weekend (NIB stock) My dealer said they will see some in about 2 weeks. The prices will make you weep or laugh!
James92TSi
Dec 15 2008, 04:08 PM
QUOTE (naveed @ Dec 14 2008, 06:37 AM)

QUOTE (superA @ Dec 12 2008, 08:37 AM)

Gilbert's Guns has 7.62x39, .223 & .308 in stock.
They're the no longer on their site. I went to purchase one yesterday and I guess they already sold out. Sucks. Wonder when I'm gonna find one.
Add me to that club. Saw they had them in stock on Friday... not so much anymore. They have .308 but no .223 or x39.
naveed
Dec 16 2008, 02:18 PM
thegunsource.com guys. Just ordered 2 7.62 x 39. They are in stock. 223's are backordered though. I paid 355 for each plus shipping.
James92TSi
Dec 16 2008, 06:00 PM
QUOTE (naveed @ Dec 16 2008, 01:18 PM)

thegunsource.com guys. Just ordered 2 7.62 x 39. They are in stock. 223's are backordered though. I paid 355 for each plus shipping.
Just ordered one for $353 through www.midwesthuntersoutlet.com - which is the same company as thegunsource (and topglock, etc - all part of TGSCOM).
The lady on the customer service line said they had seven IZ132 in stock (x39 16").
James92TSi
Dec 18 2008, 03:02 PM
Just got off the phone with TGS.
I'm #7 in line for IZ132, of 12 orders in queue.
Bad news, they only have 5 rifles to ship out, not 7. So I am sitting on a backorder as is anyone who ordered after me (12/16 ~5pm CST).
It looks like nobody has IZ132 in stock, so I'll keep my backorder with them for the time being. No reason to cancel unless it gets hopeless or I find one elsewhere...
dave43
Dec 18 2008, 05:11 PM
Too bad the next ones in will be $400-$500.
James92TSi
Dec 18 2008, 06:09 PM
QUOTE (dave43 @ Dec 18 2008, 04:11 PM)

Too bad the next ones in will be $400-$500.
Yeah... not to thrilled about missing the boat. I knew there was a mid-December shipment of rifles coming, but it still surprised me & I missed getting one from Gilbert's (which would have been the most reliable source for one).
I don't like playing the waiting game and I have very little faith in backorders.
James92TSi
Dec 19 2008, 11:07 AM
In stock at Gilbert's again if anyone's still looking. $420 + 20 ship for x39 16".
Was 379 last batch and 329 the batch before that... but I missed out. Cancelled my backorder @ TGS and ordered from Gilbert's.
http://www.gilbertsguns.com/Rifles/Saiga <- right now they have 16" x39, 16" 223, 16" 308, 21" 308, and 21" wood 308.
http://www.gilbertsguns.com/Shotguns/Saiga <- also have 19" 12ga as well. No 20 or 410.
duece212
Dec 29 2008, 02:13 AM
Anybody found 7.62's available recently? Been trying to find one at a decent price (read not gunbroker) with no luck.
whitetrashrn
Jan 4 2009, 05:38 PM
And to think I was pissed and thought I got screwed when I paid $380 at the Vally Forge Gunshow last fall for my 7.62.
opto_isolator
Jan 4 2009, 11:12 PM
Wow, just checked out all of the usual suspects and EVERYONE is out of saigas (except gun broker)!!!! Fucking crazy!!
Agias
Jan 5 2009, 09:40 AM
QUOTE (opto_isolator @ Jan 5 2009, 05:12 AM)

Wow, just checked out all of the usual suspects and EVERYONE is out of saigas (except gun broker)!!!! Fucking crazy!!
Except gunbroker you say? Could it be that people on GB are buying up the stocks to flip them for profit? It's double win for them. They get to flip guns for profit AND make the customers desperate with all the shops being out of stock.
duece212
Jan 5 2009, 12:22 PM
I ended up ordering an Arsenal SGL 10 from atlantic firearms. Figured with what sellers on gunbroker were taking people for the sgl 10 didn't seem so high priced.
Gas Giant
Jan 5 2009, 08:34 PM
Yeah, I noticed the one seller who has a lot of high priced 7.62 x 39's for sale bought up any that were cheaper than what he was selling for,... pisses me off, I was bidding too,..
QUOTE (Agias @ Jan 5 2009, 09:40 AM)

QUOTE (opto_isolator @ Jan 5 2009, 05:12 AM)

Wow, just checked out all of the usual suspects and EVERYONE is out of saigas (except gun broker)!!!! Fucking crazy!!
Except gunbroker you say? Could it be that people on GB are buying up the stocks to flip them for profit? It's double win for them. They get to flip guns for profit AND make the customers desperate with all the shops being out of stock.
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