ishium 80439
Nov 30 2008, 12:44 AM
So we have all heard of the panic buying and the skyrocketing price of ammo. My question is this: Is anyone shooting less? I personally have never been one to get out to the range on a weekly basis so I can say that my shooting habits have not changed. I have tried to get a modest supply for my meager collection (3 handguns and 3 long guns) but have not put a moratorium on shooting them. I am wondering if some of you that are stocking up are refusing to fire your weapons for fear that the ammuntion may truly not be there for purchase in the near future. Or is there perhaps a middle ground where there is ammo you buy with the intent to shoot and ammo you buy with the intent on holding for the bad times.
Thoughts?
IndyArms
Nov 30 2008, 01:31 AM
When X39 ammo was less than a dime a shot, I used to blow off 20 or 30 bucks worth in a shooting trip... NOW... That same amount... is enough to load a few mags... The Gov. wont get your guns... they will make ammo so costly you cant afford to shoot them.
ernestmayhand
Nov 30 2008, 11:47 AM
The spot I go to used to have maybe 1 other group there shooting when you'd arrive, hadn't been up since then and went a few days ago and predicted that with all the people buying guns that there'd be a bunch of people there, sure enough there was. Bout 4 different groups of people. I'm sure a lot are just trying there new stuff out for the first time.
For every caliber I've got, except 7.62x39 and 12 guage, I've got my target cheap stuff and my good stuff which never gets shot, just stockpiled (luckily). But when I'm out shooting nowadays, I admit I think twice about dumping a mag just to see how fast and accurate I can do it anymore...for the 7.62x39 I'd be satisfied showing up with a single box of Wolf and 20 bottles.
Kymasabe
Nov 30 2008, 12:02 PM
I'm shooting less, can't afford to buy ammo like I used to, blew thru my old stockpile. I just ordered aprox 2000 rounds but expect that to last me for a couple of years unless prices come down and crowds at the range thin out a little.
Like another member mentioned, the range is much busier recently now that everyone has run out and bought a gun ahead of a possible ban. The problem it created is the ranges are now crowded with lots of shooters testing new-to-them guns, sometimes not the safest place to be.
MacMan
Nov 30 2008, 03:02 PM
Most folks I know have a SHTF stash, and a practice stash. They don't touch the SHTF stash no matter what. It takes discipline, but in today's uncertain times I think it wise.
As a result of the high prices I shoot a lot less. I only go out when I feel like it and If rather or not I can afford to pick up a couple extra hundred rounds or so just to blast away. If I do go to the range, I don't want to go just to blast off a box or two, I spend the whole afternoon or not at all. So yeah, the high prices do have an affect, and like others suspect the Gov will tax the ammo out of existence, so me thinks its to precious of a commodity to waste.
elvis christ
Nov 30 2008, 04:14 PM
I've been shooting a lot more.
.22lr, that is.
ernestmayhand
Nov 30 2008, 06:29 PM
QUOTE (elvis christ @ Nov 30 2008, 12:14 PM)

I've been shooting a lot more.
.22lr, that is.
What kind of tax do we pay with ammo anyways? I know what I hear on the news about taxes on gas and cigarettes being a certain percentage etc...but what's the figures on ammo, anybody know? Also, am I right the gas and cig taxes are per state? Does it matter that you don't pay tax when you order ammo online also?
elvis christ
Nov 30 2008, 06:40 PM
QUOTE (ernestmayhand @ Nov 30 2008, 06:29 PM)

QUOTE (elvis christ @ Nov 30 2008, 12:14 PM)

I've been shooting a lot more.
.22lr, that is.
What kind of tax do we pay with ammo anyways? I know what I hear on the news about taxes on gas and cigarettes being a certain percentage etc...but what's the figures on ammo, anybody know? Also, am I right the gas and cig taxes are per state? Does it matter that you don't pay tax when you order ammo online also?
In New York City, tax is something like $4.75 per pack of smokes. I'm going to be up there visiting a buddy in Brooklyn on New Years, I'm going to take a few cartons of smokes with me. Apparently there are people who bootleg cigarettes from KY to NYC because the tax is so low. You could take a bunch of cartons, at around $30 each, and sell them for $50 all damn day in NYC. You'd be making $20 per carton, and they'd be saving $50 per carton. The thought has crossed my mind.
ernestmayhand
Nov 30 2008, 06:54 PM
Reminds me of the scene in Goodfellas when the young Ray Liota gets busted selling smokes, if I remember right though they were from a hijacked shipment.
elvis christ
Nov 30 2008, 06:56 PM
Yeah, same premise, just a little bit less illegal.
ernestmayhand
Nov 30 2008, 08:44 PM
I'm still curious about the ammo tax...they justify the gas tax for department of transportation expenses I think and not sure about the cigarette tax justification (I don't smoke but I do drive a V8). Does the ammo tax fund the ATF or what?
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