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Paladin_Hammer
Well, I just tried wolfs 124gr crap (inaccurate more-so than the 154 grains I was using), I've gone through every brand of Remington Wally world, Showmeshooters, Great Guns, and The Armory (Kearney, MO) had, now I'm looking for Hornady (a guy with an SKS says its great out to 100 yards). Apparently there are two other brands: Silver Bear and Brown Bear.

What brands have you guys found good accuracy with? YES, I KNOW THIS ISN'T A TACK DRIVER. Sorry about the caps, but apparently everyone believes I'm asking for .270 Accu-tip accuracy with this thing and I'm not. I'm just trying to find another brand to hit the target again (because Remingtion's 123gr stopped working somehow).

If anyone knows a good brand that balances accuracy and price (best price for 3" groups, 2" groups, etc etc), please post.
desert dog
The most accuarate x39 ammo that I have found for a reasonable price is BARNAUL.

Silver bear is also pretty good, but Barnaul is more accurate in all of my x39 guns.

Remember, when you switch to a better quality ammo, you will need to re-zero your rifle for it. POI will often be remarkably different.
superA
Just keep trying them out until you find some your rifle likes. We shot my brothers the other day using Wolf MC hollow points. It was only the second time he had it out and was getting roughly tennis ball size groups at 100 yards. I don't know how good that is but I liked it.
lonerider
I use Monarch from Academy (Barnaul makes it) and I get 3" - 4" groups at 50 yards...good enuff for Battle!!!
taurussvt
Mine hates Wolf HP's, but frickin loves Golden Tiger.
Doerdie
I get easy3-4" groups at 50 & 75yds with Wolf fmj with a 3moa red dot. 100yds....I don't even try (my eyes suck!)
7.62x39 aint known for being a great long range round, to big and slow.
scoutjoe
Barnual...20oz pop bottle @ 100yds

I have no idea what MOA that translates into
Juggernaut
QUOTE (desert dog @ Dec 2 2008, 04:22 PM) *
The most accuarate x39 ammo that I have found for a reasonable price is BARNAUL.

Silver bear is also pretty good, but Barnaul is more accurate in all of my x39 guns.



I thought they were the same ammo... just different boxes.....

???
scoutjoe
QUOTE (Juggernaut @ Dec 2 2008, 09:05 PM) *
QUOTE (desert dog @ Dec 2 2008, 04:22 PM) *
The most accuarate x39 ammo that I have found for a reasonable price is BARNAUL.

Silver bear is also pretty good, but Barnaul is more accurate in all of my x39 guns.



I thought they were the same ammo... just different boxes.....

???


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Silver bear, 12 gauge 7 1/2 shot

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Barnual x39 fmj
Doerdie
I like the red one!
desert dog
Barnaul makes silver bear sometimes - so does Novosibirsk plant, Klimovsk, and Ulyanovsk plants - whoever bids lowest or has the time to run it when its wanted . Thats why batches of silver bear ammo vary so widely in quality, there is no dedicated "Silver Bear" plant. Silver bear is loaded the same as brown bear, but with zinc plated cases instead of brown lacquer. If you get the stuff made at Barnaul, its probably going to shoot like Barnaul ammo.

Barnaul brand is made at the same factory, same line, same employees, with the same materials and powders. Thats why its so consistent from lot to lot.

I never buy with the expensive American x39 ammo because I have been reasonably pleased with the cheap Russian stuff. I bought 5,000 rounds of Golden Tiger and have shot about 2,000 of it with no problems. It seems much cleaner than Wolf too.
lonerider
Here's what my Saiga does with Monarch ammo at 50 yards, unsupported, fired as soon as sight picture obtained after each shot.
Kymasabe
My AK's, Saiga's and SKS's all prefer Barnaul. It's the most consistant and gives the best grouping.
Next in line is Golden Tiger, another really good cheap round.
After that I'd have to say is Brown Bear, followed by Wolf Mil. Classic, Wolf Polyformance, and lastly, HotShot which should have been labeled HotsteamingpileofCrapinabox.

Happy shooting.
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