Alright folks, I'm back from a brief hiatus and am once again able to do custom gun furniture work. My past work has involved a saga of innovations and frustrations, and the whole scope of dealings from the best to the worst.

In short, I started off intending to offer something better, something different, both in my products and in how I deal. I've seen far too many gun business relationships go sour when a fellow had received many payments and items to work on and then lost touch. In some cases the customers cried thief when there was only a delay to work with. In other cases, their suspicions were more than correct. So when breaking into this field, I said that I wouldn't take money without a product ready to go (of course I waited for payment before shipping the product.) Well the G3 mag adaptor saga is an interesting one and is best left on its own threads. Suffice it to say it was the first of many learning experiences. In some cases, custom products have become really popular. In others, high cost options have been loaded onto items that nobody bought.

Leaving all of those discussions in their past threads (please do, for the love of humanity), things are different now. I have made many successful sales with many happy customers. I have developed a variety of my own designs and built them on my own initiative. In short, I now have a reputation to go by, and a reputation to keep.

Therefore, custom work will now require a deposit, and custom work will be priced differently than production work.

Edit: Tried to cough up uniform guidelines on custom furniture pricing, but have decided to keep my pricing figures proprietary. It seems that it would be easier to write a computer program for that stuff and quote prices upon request instead of putting terms in public that would confine my offers more than helping people figure stuff out.

I of course reserve the right to establish special terms and be generous without obligation to do so on every occasion.

Business sales are an entirely different animal with confidential terms.

Shipping is a flat $5 for grips and handguards regardless of quantity. Shipping is a flat $8 if the order includes at least one buttstock, this is due to weight. These prices are to the lower 48 states. Residents of AK, HI, PR, and international orders must make special arrangements. (Thus far I have only had one case of that - Alaska.)

With all of those details behind, here once again are a variety of items I have made already, both custom and production.

Wow!!...Duz this mean we gott'a refer to ya as "MASTER" BG??..Thats some really outstanding kewl stuff!!...

Slap a 20 rounder in it & throw some stain on a set.
Nice variety!

...at least it's better than Romy stuff

Battle Rifle
I am interested PM sent

Edit to note that I've withdrawn the detailed pricing guidelines, as they were rough to begin with and nothing but confusing. Pricing guidelines will be more or less proprietary, and I'll try to be better with giving quotes on request.

Guys, I've been working on some new and exciting designs. At the moment they're only designs, but the only thing between them and reality is whether or not folks are interested. So I'll make this proposition: I'll post a picture here of a design and anyone who wants to be a guinea pig will get a good price on it.

With that proposition comes a request: I need someone to take their S-12, remove the front handguard, and photograph it as straightly as possible. The idea is something upon which I can most accurately paste 2-D pictures of handguard concepts.

Current ideas include a few Galilish styles, a few long and a few short options, and such. What say ye to that, me hearties, eh?

O.K.
I have one question... Is it possible to order a PSL/ Romak 3 buttstock like you made for that guy over on AK-47.net? If so, I would like to order one...

thanks, J.D.

As soon as I have the pattern officially licked that is a definite can do. That fellow helped in the process and his stock required some final fitting. He'll be buying a 2.0 version when I can get it ready.

I'm assuming you want one for PSL, right, not stamped AK? Because I'm using the same pattern with slight differences for stamped AKs.

Yes, it's for a Romak 3/ PSL rifle. I saw the buttstock that you built for him, and it was downright awsome!

Lighting angle turned out pretty bad, so it really doesn't do it justice, but I just completed this Galil style handguard for the standard length S-12.

It's already claimed, but I expect there to be more. Give me a shout if you want one.

Your work rocks!!!!!! When I get the bucks to get an S-12 and convert it, I'm definitely gonna contact you. I'm interested in the galil style furniture.

can you mount that on an S-12 so i can get an idea of what it looks like installed?

Also, if we send you the wood, can you do it out of that? i have some pretty nice exotic that i'd like to have a set made out of.

Thanks
caspian

I can work with buyer supplied wood, and will try to get pics up when I can borrow a friend's S-20. I don't have an S-12 myself.

Here are some pics of works in progress.

For those who MUST have your AKM handguards for the S-12, here is half of a solution I'm coming up with. (You can thank Cobra for the other half, which is pending development.)
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I prefer my Galil style myself, but for those who must have their AK style, here it is, at least in progress.

Somehow this just looked unprecedentedly sweet. I'm not a fan of mismatched furniture and the stock is far from complete. I took these photos to work on specs with a customer on another stock.
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When I call this a Dragunov stock, I don't just mean a skeletonized thumbhole. No, this is as close to the real Dragunov stock as you can get on a stamped AK.
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With matching furniture, this stuff could make the ultimate "Saiganov."

Here are two grips I made on buyer supplied teak wood.
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The teak was crazy to cut with my scroll saw, but shaped surprisingly well under abrasives.

And last but certainly not least, the ultimate stock for the scoped, unconverted, highly accurate Saiga rifle. And the only stock I have ever made (if you don't count the Dragunovs) that was not ambidextrous.
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Don't think I'll make too many of these, at least on my own initiative, but it could be part of something really special for someone with the highly accurate S-308.

That's today's update. Had a few buttstocks to show that I really do make them (seems to be this horrible rumor that I don't) but apparently I didn't take those photos when I thought I did. They'll come later. I am a white guy so one could joke about my lack of a butt. Butt I think folks would be much happier looking forward to pictures of the real things.

BRG,
That Saiganov stock looks sweet!

For all interested folks, I have been very happy to receive a large number of PMs very recently. Unfortunately, I have a limited storage space, so please if you can, E-mail to my screenname at hotmail.com.

Thanks!

I could customize a quasi-p-grip stock to be more like that one if you really wanted it that way, but note that your stock meets the generally accepted legal definition of a p-grip whereas mine does not. Regarding AK type handguards, the lower one is the easy part. The upper one is pending development and is based on a discovery made by a board member of another gun part that will fit the Saiga-12.

Current buttstocks will come with basic buttplates. I can also attach user provided buttpads/plates at no extra charge.

Do you do any wood that duplicates the AKM grip and the top and bottom foregrip?

Two piece handguards are on the horizon, pending development. An AKM grip design is being prototyped. I'm not a fan, but other folks do like them. I like large curved duckbill grips, one piece handguards, and straightline buttstocks. Can you tell?

Here are some pics of more works in progress.

First, when the terrible rumor that I don't make buttstocks made it all the way accross the Atlantic Ocean to a board member in England, I knew I had to do something about it. So here are a few pics of buttstocks in progress. All three of these would be great choices for those using a scope. One has a raised buttstock for the ultimate in straightline, while the other two have ambidextrous cheekpiece type rises.
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And though just begun, I'm loving the way this walnut quasi-p-grip stock is turning out. The grain pattern puts laminate to shame.
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I just purchased the 22inch barrel version Saiga 308-1 and I am thinking about getting a custom stock and hand guard to replace the synthetic stock.

Your woodworking skills are amazing, and I was wondering what some new custom furniture might set me back.

Do I need to install a different trigger in order to have a pistol grip/custom made?

Any recommended upgrades besides a blackjack buffer?

What is the better buffer black or green?

Does anyone sell high capacity clips for this gun?

Any Info or feedback would be extremely appreciated.

Thanks!!!!!

Options for a complete set for the S-308 start at $120 + shipping.

I make stocks to work with the stock Saiga and with converted Saigas.

Hi-cap mag solutions are an ongoing project by many people, including myself.

I would recommend the green buffer for the S-308, as one is likely to fire fewer rounds from this rifle than from the other Saigas.

Oh man, that wood looks so nice I'm almost afraid to ask...is that mine?

Indeed it is.

I too just bought a Saiga .308. Tony Rumore will do the conversion, and BattleRifleG3 is making me a .308 furniture set, which will include the handguard, pistol grip and buttstock. I've seen enough of BFG3's work to know that both he and I will be proud of the end product.

WOOHOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

dude...i just checked out your wood

I cant wait to see it all finished and connected to a Saiga!!

DAMN! After seeing that Walnut wood grain,I am just about sporting some wood grain myself! That is it- I am ordereing the 3 vent holed forend and Quasi p grip in walnut- BR I am going to email you asap with my decision.

Finally got the opportunity to model some furniture on a friends S-20. Lighting wasn't the best on all the pics but they're not too bad either. Of course they don't do justice to the handguards.

First is the Schnabel style shown in the upper right of the group picture. This particular handguard is still available.
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Next is the style shown in the upper left of the same picture. It too is still available.
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And finally here is half of the AKM style I was working on. The critical component of the other half just arrived in the mail, so I hope to have good results there soon.
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Good news per previous requests - I have just come upon another wood source that offers Teak and many other special woods including cocobolo, almost all in any size I need, at their respective prices. With deposits as standard policy, I can take the plunge into new and exotic woods upon request.

As an update for all, including those with orders in progress, here's a pic of several pieces in progress.

Several S-12 handguards, all of them from lyptus wood and more or less loosely based on the Galil style.
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Oak buttstock, not sure exactly what the style is from, but resembling that of the Galil.
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And a variety of furniture for the S-12 and S-20. Walnut buttstocks and handguard are part of orders in progress. The two beech handguards have actually been underway for a while but I'm now finishing them up to offer in sets with the remaining beech stock that I have. The one handguard on the far right is white oak and made from wider stock than the others. The right three of these handguards are my version of the classic Saiga rifle handguard style.
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And now for some good/bad news. I've been very pleased with a good number of recent orders with very faithful buyers. I also have a bit of stock underway to offer at an upcoming gun show. And finally, there are personal developments that are very good but that affect my schedule.

SO in order to be most faithful to everyone, I'm going to have to do another order freeze. That means I'm going to finish a few things before I start more projects. This is really GOOD NEWS to everyone. To those who've paid for orders it means I'm putting you first, and to those who will order in the future it means that when I take your order I take it seriously.

If you've already started discussing a project with me, we're still on track. It's those who haven't yet approached me that I'm asking to wait a little bit.

I'll update this thread when I'm ready to take more work again, which shouldn't be too long.

More progress pics:

Walnut handguard part of an order for a board member. Made in the rifle/S-12k style.
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I took a handguard that I had up for months without selling, and made a few mods based on recent improvements in my methods. The results were quite impressive. Seriously, I'm impressed.
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And two buttstocks in progress, one in lyptus designed to look like a Galil with a thick buttplate, and the other from hickory, not sure what to call the style.
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Six new grips made from teak. AMD grips definitely aren't my cup of tea to use or make, but it was good experience.

Here are more pics of items in progress, some farther than others.

DaGroaner's set, modeled on my S-410. His handguard os for the S-20 so my 410 gas system stretches farther forward.
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The first coat of finish is drying as we speak.

H4Saiga's stock set, modeled separately.
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A three piece stock set in lyptus.
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And another.
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A three piece set in beech.
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And a taylored dragunov style stock in beech.
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All but the first two and last stock are up for dibs, and there are other options available, I just put them together for a group photo.

Holy shit! My S-20 is going to look like something from Weatherby! Well the wood will anyway.

That S-20 set you made for DaGroaner's S-20 is absolutely beautiful!
If I had a stock Saiga I would snap one up in a heatbeat - good work!

Oh yeah, I love the latest grips too! The one on my red 410 is a modded AMD.
Might not be your cup o' tea dude, but thanks for offering 'em!

Here's more progress on a beech Dragunov stock for a Saiga-308.
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A few new grip styles in progress.
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And a group photo of all the Yugo fat grips that are in need of a home.
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Hey BR I know I emailed you on my order and asked about the teak grips,but I was wondering-DO you have anymore of that teak in the 'tiger stripe 'grain-like the grip on the left of the grip pic set? if so I would like to know if it is enough for a complete set and if the set could be made with the grain verticle an on the pistol grip. BTW the teak is very nice looking wood! Is Teak harder than Walnut? Damn I need another rifle for another set of wood---hey that sounds like a way to buy another rifle to me-

That teak grip was an anomaly, ie used a scrap piece for it, but I can do more depending on interest. Teak is indeed harder than walnut, and three times as expensive (thankfully the total cost isn't directly proportional to the material cost).

Some more progress photos, hopefully a little better than before. These are what complete stock sets will look like, and with the exception of the lyptus grip and butt, they are all unspoken for, if you want to grab one before they're gone in ceratin varieties (ie beech.)
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Another view of a Dragunov stock for a converted S-308.
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Several grips still needing a home (except the Galil is tentatively SPF).
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And some progress on some more standard AK grips. The first is beech, the second is a bit of a comprise to my tastes, and the lower pic is a modified Galil style and a smooth version of my ergo pattern (which is basically the old fat grip pattern but thinner and at the standard AK grip angle.)
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If your interested I would like to get a pistol grip for a Saiga 12. Would like it out of Black Walnut root burl ill do the finish acrylic/poly. I think I know a mill that can get the material. Be glad to pay well for all your troubles!!! If you are interested I will PM you with the details. Pay by Paypal.

Sincerely
Equinox

I can work on such wood should you be able to provide it. I do not use paypal, but any paper payment is fine. Please E-mail on timeframe and grip style and I'll get back to you on pricing.

Thought I'd throw out a memorial to the FATTEST grip I ever made. I can do such things if folks so desire, but all my feedback has preferred the smaller variety.
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PM sent:D

Great work BRG3! That is really pretty stuff!

I was wondering if the stock you made for DaGroaner was comfortable in hand(unlike the original stock). I don't imagine you shot it but if you did, how did it handle? I'm looking to get a stock like that (or possibly the Dragunov if I DO convert) since I'm not sure if I want to convert yet. I have a 7.62 and love it except for the way the original stock feels(sounds like I'm not the only one!)

Please let us know as soon as you are taking orders. I'm very interested!

Craig

Just a FYI for folks subscribed to this thread, two S-12 stock sets are available here:

http://forum.saiga-12.com/index.php?showtopic=10165

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Could a fellow with the initials A.G. who sent me a payment please get in touch with me? The info given with a payment I received doesn't match anything I can recall. Thanks!

I just found this thread.

I've just got to give my compliments, that those are absolutely goregous stocks. (and good compliance parts!)