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  1. Well, after just over a five and a half month wait on the ATF returning my latest Form 4, I finally get to post my complete Tromix family portrait. Standard Tony masterpieces (left to right): 19" S-12, 12" S-12, 8" S-12, Tromix Sledgehammer in 50AE, TR-15 (next to last made).

    I apologize for the lack of picture quality and background. I'm no photographer and don't pretend to be. Plus, Tony's work speaks for itself.

     

    Thanks again, Tony. I look forward to figuring out what I'm getting you to build the next time the waitlist opens ;)

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  2. The template was PERFECT! Thanks a ton for having this available. I searched all over the board before finding this post. All of the videos and posts I was able to find talked about what to do-but not the measurements that I needed. Thanks again.

     

     

     

    These make it a little easier to mark and cut the pistol grip hole in the right spot, for anyone who doesn't have pistol grip holes already in their receiver during conversion.

     

    Line the holes up with the trigger hole on the bottom of your receiver. It's alot easier if you actually cut the holes out of the paper to line them up and trace where the pistol grip hole needs to be cut.

     

    The images might look big, but they printed out at normal / actual size when I printed them.

     

     

    If you can't view them, I zipped them both and uploaded them to rapidshare for anyone who wants to download them both:

     

    http://rapidshare.com/files/127778462/ak_p...e_templates.zip

     

     

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  3. Buy once - cry once. Get the very best safe you can possibly afford.

    Ft. Knox - simply the best I've seen in person. WAAAAAYYY out of the price range of most of us.

    I purchased a Liberty safe and have been very happy with it - until I saw my buddies Sturdy.......

    My next safe will be a Sturdy safe. Also, as the above posters noted - get a safe big enough to include your future firearms. One way I've found to gauge space in a safe is that the safe will comfortably hold HALF of what the stated manufacturers number is. When you have long guns with scopes and Mosins with straight bolts - they eat up a lot of room.....

    Good luck with the search.

     

    I found this site helpful:

    http://www.6mmbr.com/gunsafes.html

  4. Yeah...You're totally off the mark and take your .02 cents back.

     

     

     

    HA HA - I'm guess I am. I guess that's why Tony's gotten right back to you - and he's doing the certificates.

    Again, as I said before, I'd love to have the Tromix stamp. Problem is that it's yet another extraneous step to finishing every weapon. Doubt he has the time in this climate. Maybe if he charged an additional $150 for the stamp?

    This is me taking my .02 back per your request :rolleyes:

  5. I may be totally off the mark here- but I will add my .02.

    I don't think Tony is really worried about how much money you'll be able to make on your shotgun (that he made) after he sells it to you. Once each shotty is paid for and out the door, he doesn't make any more money on it. Why should he be concerned about how much you can make later? He marks the SBS shotguns-not to prove that he made it, but to satisfy Federal requirements for NFA weapons. Don't get me wrong. I own a Tromix SBS and I'm on the waiting list for a non-SBS conversion. I'd love to have the Tromix "stamp" on the receiver of the regular shotgun. I think the certificate is a great touch and a great way to keep track of original Tromix shotguns. I'll throw my certificate in the safe with the tax stamp of the other one-I definitely won't be losing or misplacing something like that.......

     

     

     

     

    I PMed Tony about this topic and he never got back to me. I feel Tony's work is original, so he should (imo) mark his weapons going out the door. Like any artist would sign his work. A card can get lost or misplaced. I would like to have this done to my Saiga (fingers crossed). If I don't then it's incomplete to me. Again, jmho. I paid a premium for my Tromix. I could have gone with any number of other conversions, but I wanted an original Tony Rumore work of art. There will be copycats who might come close, even closely resemble the real thing. I guess I can whip out my card to prove them wrong. It's around here somewhere....Anyway a 'Maker's Mark' is on my wish list. Thanks again Tony.

     

     

     

     

    Franky.J.

  6. I think the single biggest variable will be the supply of S-12's to Tony. He said he can knock out two guns a day-say around 500 a year if he really feels like it (gotta take some days off). We can only hope RAA can keep the shotty's rolling in..........for everyone's sake!

    The second problem will be pending legislation (and future availability) 12 months down the road. I guess we'll have a much better picture of that come November 4.

    I have a feeling that we may also run into the same problem on this part of the wait list as the first group did. Tony had to skip over guys wanting him to supply the gun (as he ran out) and went to all hands that actually had them in possession. This was how I rocketed up to the front of the line the first time. This time I'm wanting Tony to supply mine-hopefully he'll have a stash in eight plus months.........good luck to all!

  7. Got my number from Melissa today too, and in her e-mail she said the leadtime had already increased to at least 9 months, and I had e-mailed in my order just after midnight on the 1st. I know Tony thought he would be able to keep the new order list open till at least the 5th, but damn, at this rate I wouldn't be surprised if they have to close it down by late tomorrow or early Saturday.

     

     

    True on the 9 month lead time. BUT, some people will invariably drop out and shorten the time. I actually just got a shotgun back from Tony and it was because of the large amount of people that put in reservations but want/need Tony to supply the shotgun. As I had one to provide to work on, I was moved way up the list. We'll see how it goes this time. Hopefully a lot more S-12's will make it in country to satisfy everyone.

  8. Just a couple of thoughts:

     

    The Presidential race is important - no doubt. BUT, keep in mind all of the Congressmen and Senator slots up for election. These are the LAWMAKERS- the President just approves the laws submitted. Make sure to vote for the pro 2A lawmakers, as they will be the ones voting on submitting an AWB to the President (regardless of who it is) to sign. Don't lose sight with all of the hype.

     

    I watched the damage that voting for Ross Perot did. It allowed Clinton a second term and the ability to nominate the Supreme Court Justices. We all know how that turned out.........

    The next President will most likely be able to nominate between 1 and 3 new Justices. Who would you rather have making that call? The Heller decision was great. But it was only a starting point for many soon to come battles. Do we really want any future 2A legislation going to an Obama filled Supreme Court? We only squeaked by on one vote as is.

     

    I can't remember where I saw it-but someone's sig line on another board fits here. "Why hold my nose and vote for the lesser of two evils in McCain? Because I'd rather be disgusted WITH my guns, than disgusted without them".................

  9. Just a suggestion-

    I personally didn't do the NFA paperwork on my shotgun before sending to Tromix on purpose. I wanted Tony to be the "manufacturer". I don't EVER plan to sell my SBS, but if circumstances required it- I'd sure rather have Tromix stamped on the receiver than mine..........

    If I was a prospective buyer and saw "Charlie's Trust" as the manufacturer, even though the work looked great-I'm not offering you what I would if I saw Tromix on the receiver.

     

     

     

    ....and can I send it to tromix while the paperwork is pending and have tromix send it back to my ffl/sot?

     

    It sounds like you may be mixing up form 1 with form 3, which is used just for NFA firearm transfers between SOT holders. An SOT holder would only be receiving an SBS from Tromix if they (not you) ordered it from Tromix. In that case Tromix would just use a regular Saiga 12 shotgun from their own stock to make the SBS, and then the SBS would be transferred from Tromix to the other SOT holder through a form 3 (an individual purchasing the SBS from this SOT holder would then go through the NFA transfer process using a form 4). In your case though it is you, not Tromix, who is the owner of the Saiga 12 that will be made into an SBS. So you would form 1 it, and after receiving the NFA tax stamp from the ATF you would then ship it directly to Tromix for their service, and then Tromix would ship it directly back to you. There is no need for the return shipping to go through an FFL holder or another SOT holder, since you already have the NFA tax stamp and are the legal owner of the NFA firearm as far as the ATF is concerned, and since temporarily sending an NFA firearm to a gunsmith for service or repair is not considered by the ATF to be a transfer under the terms of the NFA (see: http://www.atf.gov/press/breakingnews/fy01...0nfarepair.htm)

     

    So I have a saiga 12 that I picked up today. And I intend to send it to tromix right away (Oct. 1st). Do I need to form 1 it now?

     

    Since there isn't any disadvantage to getting the NFA tax stamp as soon as possible, you might as well start the form 1 process now. Assuming you get your order in to Tromix between October 1st and whenever Tromix stops accepting orders again (which will probably be no more than about a week later), only Tromix can tell you when they would want you to ship them your shotgun (my guess is Tromix would not want you to ship them the shotgun until they begin to get close to your number on their order list, and also of course not until after you receive your NFA tax stamp and have had the engraving done on your shotgun's receiver).

     

    I've done SBRs on my own, and I use the trust method. But I've never had a SBS done by someone else. Can someone please post the acceptable steps?

     

    It will be identical to the form 1 process you did with your SBRs, except of course that in this case (after you receive your NFA tax stamp from the ATF) there is the extra step of then sending your newly NFA registered firearm to Tromix for gunsmithing services, for which as was stated in the ATF letter (http://www.atf.gov/press/breakingnews/fy01/021800nfarepair.htm) mentioned above, the ATF recommends you fill out and send in a form 5.

     

     

    Alright, I got it down. Right now getting paperwork approved through the ATF is taking forever. I've been waiting on a suppressor to clear for 3 months now. I'm going to hook up with my guy today and get form1 off to them. Man the wife is pissed that I'm dropping this much money right now, especially after we jut bought heating oil :ded: Ah well, I need feed my addiction.

    Thanks man

  10. Anyone who knows, please answer.

     

    I am planning on getting on Tromix's wait list on October 1 for a SBS Saiga 12. I imagine that I should begin the paperwork now. Besides starting the paperwork with my local FFL who can sell me NFA items, is there anything else regarding the paperwork that I need to know about when dealing with Tromix. What if I supply my own S-12? What if I get a S-12 supplied by Tromix?

     

     

    Thanks,

    Triathlon

     

     

     

    I'm not an authority on the subject-but I can tell you that you'll need the serial number of the firearm to begin the paperwork. To get an early start will mean obtaining the shotgun and submitting it at a later date.

  11. Gunfixr,

    Do you have a CZ52 or TT-33 to test the "bad" rounds in? If the com-blocs don't fire the primer, than you can feel safe knowing the rounds are bad. If they do, we'll then that can only help in the "tweaking" process.

     

     

     

    Back to the range today after making new firing pins and shortening up the recoil springs some.

     

    Much better, fires fine now, but still needs a bit more tweaking. Some rounds still failed to go off, but it was just a few out of the 150 or so rounds fired. The ones that didn't go off had good indentations and failed to go off after repeated hits, so I think they are just bad rounds. Had to tweak the mags a little to get good feeding. It still needs the bolt speed reduced a little, I'm going to add a little weight to the bolt. The main problem now seems to be the ammo. The consistency os way off. There is a noticeable difference in the power of the rounds, either due to age, or just loaded bad to begin with. I think the next ammo I get in this caliber will be the Romainian, maybe it will be better.

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