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  2. evlblkwpnz

    What is your favorite Saiga 12 build ever?

    We all have brainfarts, lol. Not a big deal. No, that amount of travel is all it takes and I do some other work to reduce the amount of trigger travel with the selector in the safe position, so it is technically 'safer'. I'm not sure why no one else thought of a finely tuned short-throw selector. It takes time and a little attention to detail to perfect and that is probably why we don't see it elsewhere. It's a detail that I ran on my own gun for a long time and figured people would like it on theirs. I like the absence of an exterior stop and the level look of the selector when in the fire position. It looks like it should have been that way from the start. I wish Mikhail was still around. I'd like to hear his opinion on some of the work I have been doing. I think I do the AK based shotgun a little justice, in a tasteful manner, no crap on his AK
  3. pedal2alloy

    What is your favorite Saiga 12 build ever?

    Doh, that's right. So halfway down is enough for the trigger to clear, or do you have to relieve some material to ensure no interference?
  4. Last week
  5. evlblkwpnz

    What is your favorite Saiga 12 build ever?

    Safe is up, fire is down. It is in the fire position.
  6. faststang90

    Ks 12 and dove shot

    The drum worked great 👍. Only problem was I could only get 19 rounds to load. The 12 gauge sure kicks harder than the 20 gauge did. My shoulder is killing me now lol . I’m very happy with this gun for now
  7. We used to have a lot of fun. We would go to the Orlando indoor field a lot, the field ended up closing after a few years because it had a reputation of letting "professional teams" of 20-40 year old guys group up on one team against all the walk one which was mostly kids...when I went I would show up with a gang box full of gear, like 20+ guns that I would buy broken for $20 and upgrade, and loan it out to kids that had walmart stuff. And then we would group the newbies with a couple of our group into 5-6 person fire teams and we would show the newbies how to take out the "pro level" players... It got to the point that the refs would see us and holler into the ready room "hey (insert team name) your ass kicking just showed up"... Good times! The trigger lag can be reduced with high torque motors, mosfets, large Lipo batteries and a "prewind timer module" that stops the piston in the retracted position.. As for casting. I have a pile of brass, a propane furnace and a crucible but as of yet no castings.. I'm trying to make a part for a spot welder out of the brass.. I got a pair of 15kva rocker arm spot welders for $300 but they use 1.75" arms and I'm standardised on 2" and 1.5" and having odd ball sizes is annoying.. So I want to remake the parts.. So I'm interested in learning more about casting.
  8. pedal2alloy

    What is your favorite Saiga 12 build ever?

    That's cool, it wasn't obvious because it looks like it is just partially down. Is there enough engagement surface without it all the way down? ("mostly safe" as opposed to "safe")
  9. You probably would be fun to play with. I've tweaked a few buckings etc to get airsoft to shoot about as accurately as that with the ammo it liked, but on the whole I still feel more confident about making consistent hits at that range and double with paintball. I buy good paint, and sometimes it just isn't on hand, so there is that. I prefer the feel of the pneumatic airsoft guns, and closed bolt PB. I don't know why but that perceptible locktime/dwell time really bugs me. But I think we are thread jacking, so didja ever cast anything? Have you CNCd out a bell from cartridge brass? Made jingle bells out of garand clips?
  10. saltydecimator

    MDARMS X CSSPECS steel dbl stack mag alive or dead?

    he posted that it wasnt very lucrative on here somewhere... i doubt he making much on them, i dont think they selling alot. at least im not getting offered one of them every 20 on armslist... when keltec ksg came out and everyone realized how hard it recoiled etc they were all ditching them there is a guy up in laramie wyoming, he is building that new CR12, wilkinson tactical. he claims his job was getting around patents... i wonder if he would have any insight into it? paul t wilkinson is his name... he is getting D and H arms out of wisconsin to do his mags... i assume they are stamped aluminum but i could be wrong
  11. csspecs

    MDARMS X CSSPECS steel dbl stack mag alive or dead?

    Their website is still up, but I gotta imagine those mossberg checks are a lot easier than making stuff.
  12. evlblkwpnz

    What is your favorite Saiga 12 build ever?

    It is for speed and precision. What goes in customer guns is for speed. I want to bring it to market. There will be one in every build at that point.
  13. I do airsoft, I used to play fairly often.. The big thing is for most fields is that they have two limits generally, 30 rounds per second, and 400 fps. I built more than a few rigs that could do both, but they only came on the field when you had flagrant cheaters. Almost every regular player had their cheater buster rig, but they normally did not come out. Like you are playing capture the flag and someone will just run to the flag despite it being fully covered.. We had one that the guy ran for the flag and 12 people hit him, including one that had a spot light, and you could see this pyramid of plastic roaring toward him and spraying off him for a full eight to ten seconds.. So he only got hit like 3,000 times, changed the flag anyway and only indicated being hit while walking back, then had the gaul to complain about "overkill". Generally I played with a full sized M14 with irons only, in semi only. It shot 400 fps on the dot, but the big thing was it shot +/- 2 fps which when running .3g pellets averaged a 4" group at 150' and the trajectory was almost perfectly flat... Normally I'd work my way up the field until I got behind one of the better chunks of cover, then I worked at thinning the other team out so my guys could work up the field. My other specialized gun was an MP5 that shot 280 fps and 28rps. But I had all metal impact parts, so it probably bordered on causing hearing damage.. That was for running at the indoor in the dark hallways, the intimidation factor was really high, it really did sound like it was going to hurt bad.. I normally paired that with a few thunder B grenades.. Those are definitely not hearing safe.
  14. saltydecimator

    MDARMS X CSSPECS steel dbl stack mag alive or dead?

    i emailed MD the other day about some other shotguns, with no response.... i would like to assume he was slaving away making sweet sweet projects, but im not so sure anymore....
  15. saltydecimator

    MDARMS X CSSPECS steel dbl stack mag alive or dead?

    dang it MD be a team player! dont tease us please us!!!!
  16. Jetg23

    What is your favorite Saiga 12 build ever?

    What's the difference is your trigger and what goes in an Evl build ?
  17. I have tried airsoft. It's okay, but paintball is superior. I will play either given the chance. Most of the fun/notfun is about who you play with, and where. No game is fun if you are playing and half the people are trying to cheat, even a win means nothing. Setting aside the cheapest wimpiest walmart grade stuff, that kids use, and that no one who plays for long sticks with... Airsoft hurts more, and it tends to attract the sort of people who get off on hurting people. The general standard that most people tune their airsoft guns to is a 0.2 gram bb at 400 FPS. If you don't have a chrono, a fairly accurate way to test this is that 400 FPS is right where the BB will go through both sides of an empty coke can. Example: Then you know that a lot, and I mean a lot of the people who play are running hotter than that. i.e. they might chrono with 0.2 gram bbs, but then they play with heavier, or they sneak in a gun with uprated springs, pistons, etc to have higher velocity. The worst you get from a paintball is a bruise and possibly some scuffs through the skin. The most common injury is a knee injury from sliding into something while diving into cover. It also doesn't have nearly as much effective range, unless you use heavy weight bbs at really hurty velocities. And it is hard to prove whether someone is shot or not short of bleeding. This encourages cheating, though both sports have their share of cheaters. As for mess, short term, airsoft is kinda cleaner. Long term, the paint breaks down and goes away and the bbs linger. Even the supposedly bio degradable bbs don't really. Also, if you are using the fun gear, a lot of them don't like the bio bbs as much, but they are getting better. Generally if you play a lot the gear cost is similar, but the PB stuff is much better quality. The cost per day of play is higher for PB because the paint is more expensive, and is perishable. Airsoft has manuals of arms and looks that tend to feel more "real" (but let me say I have a whole rant about "who cares about real, if it's fun. And real for what purpose, and how real....") However the capacities, and ability to shoot further tend to make the tactics of paintball more useful if your goal is simulation. For some reason, it's hard for gun people to get their heads around the idea that there can be other goals or things that make paintball fun than mere simulation. I'll say that if you play any format, whether competitive speedball, recball, behind your parent's barn with the other 12 year olds making up the rules as they go, or at some huge multi thousand player scenario game....... Either paintball or airsoft are fun. Both give you tactile feedback when you do something wrong, and give you a sense of probability. No matter how well trained you are and no matter how right you do things, and how wrong the other guy does things, you still get shot. I love the pistol, rifle and shotgun matches, and go as often as I am able, but on the whole, paintballers and airsofters have a lot better situational awareness and a lot better feel for movement, and use of cover and concealment, and angles sight, and teamwork than any of the firearm crowd toes. It's conditioned response. If you are sticking your elbow out behind cover, or sitting in one place too long, or reload in the open, you get a pain feedback and at least a few minutes before you are back in the game. In other training or matches, you might get docked a point if the RO notices, but it doesn't have the sting to keep it sharp in your mind. I love pretty much all the shooting sports, but my favorites will always be 3 gun type stuff, and paintball. Both are more fun when you play with skilled opponents. All of them teach transferrable skills.
  18. Quick and dirty, you could use some 400 grit sandpaper wrapped around a precision file in the following places... trigger hook hammer where disconnector contacts hammer where trigger hook contacts disconnector where hammer contacts If you have good eyes or a magnifying glass, you might look for any significant burrs or significant rough areas and knock them down with the file first.
  19. saltydecimator

    K-Var selling Saiga 12's with LRBHO for $630

    anyone spied one in the wild recently??? ive only seen 1. i foolishly parted it out, now i regret that....
  20. good plan! tried airsoft? seems less messy and hurty ya i have a tumbler, gotta dig out my scrap and see what i have..
  21. evlblkwpnz

    Ks 12 and dove shot

    Yes, I have seen some really bad ones with really bad ideas implemented and nearly ruined parts. It usually comes from regular gunsmiths trying to work on one or a shop that would like to do Saiga 12 work, but isn't really up to the task. When the economy was bad I think a lot of shops would take anything in even if they didn't know the platform at all, just to keep cash flowing. Thankfully, I haven't seen much of it lately.
  22. evlblkwpnz

    What is your favorite Saiga 12 build ever?

    Same video as the "can't hit without sights" thread. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_68wZDsoTE
  23. Semi related. I got my scuba tanks rehydrod. I use them for paintball. They condemed one of my tanks, so I guess I have a bell now too, once I get some time with a saw.
  24. Mostly because the priming stuff is dirty, I would. I would also wet tumble the brass afterward if you have a tumbler.
  25. ya i may have to go the route of simple vs bell shape.... then again if the stuff is already melted ive done most of the "hard work" (hard being i dont have a foundry, so chances are im at someone elses place) great thoughts all around folks... thithink brass needs to be de-primed?
  26. csspecs

    MDARMS X CSSPECS steel dbl stack mag alive or dead?

    I'm willing to look at the samples and discuss the fee cost.. My contact information is widely available, at any point he wants to pursue the possibility I'm ready to hear it. My interest in the idea is tempered with my own experiences with product production. The more complicated an item is the higher the failure rate. Fee cost is the most important thing I need to know. My understanding is that the feed tower section is mossbergs patent. So they can prevent any aftermarket tower from being made.. So I would not get your hopes up.
  27. Lone Star Arms

    Ks 12 and dove shot

    Had a KS-12 in the shop with receiver/carrier alignment issues, and although the fit and finish is generally much better than the Russian export models, KS-12s clearly aren't immune to these issues. Lynx seems to attempt to address cycling issues with generally weaker springs, a blackjack type recoil buffer at the rear of the receiver, and a couple of extra gas settings. Once again it looks like yet another manufacturer is applying band-aids and Appalachian engineering to address problems inherent in the engineering and assembly issues copied from the originals. Receiver alignment is definitely something we always look at when a gun comes in for work. One of the the other issues we commonly see is fitment geometry. The guns we see often have a combination of issues when they come in the door, and have often been previously 'worked on ', so along with the inherent issues present in many factory guns, we also often have to address issues created by previous aftermarket work. I'm sure you get your fair share of these guns as well When I started doing this a decade ago, and I' know the same is true of you, I came to gunsmithing with a background as a master craftsman. Custom pool builder, or custom jeweler - that's not a bad place to start.
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