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  1. Effectiveness of the AK74 Brake in recoil mitigation?

    in Saiga 7.62 X 39

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    Looks like I will have an AK74 M14xLH brake and 2 crush washers for sale soon. Went to CNC warrior and purchased the Saiga specific adapter and their Bulgy brake in M24. Should make for a cleaner looking install.

     

    Really wanted a battlecomp but after:

     

    An M1A SOCOM 16

    BCM 14.5" AR Upper with Centurion Rail

    1000 Rounds of 7.62x39

    500 Rounds of 5.56 NATO

    250 Rounds of 7.62 NATO

    Various AK mags

    Various AR mags

     

    I'm tapped out (no pun intended)

  2. Effectiveness of the AK74 Brake in recoil mitigation?

    in Saiga 7.62 X 39

    Posted · Edited by Big Jay

    Just make sure you are talking about a real AK-74 brake and not any of the US-made clones that are threaded to 14x1LH.

     

    A "true" AK-74 brake needs to be threaded to 24mm due to the expansion chamber effect that is required. The 14x1LH brakes don't have any expansion chamber due to the internal design. The clones also have inappropriately placed venting holes, and mostly ineffective forward baffle, which is the function of the brake that actually eliminates pushback recoil..

     

    The true AK-74 brake eliminates pushback/felt recoil, muzzle rise, and receiver twist. It also offers limited flash suppression, though sometimes it seems to simply amplify it due to the way gasses are redirected.

     

    The Tapco clone brake is also VERY heavy compared to the real thing. Seriously, it's a huge muzzle weight.

     

    Only companies that make accurate and functional clones in the USA are Arsenal and CNC Warrior. All others are milsurp, with the most common at the moment being both Bulgarian and E. German - the two are virtually identical and represent an implementation of the early 1980s short-collar Soviet design.

     

    NOTE: CNC Warrior has a M14 (14x1LH) to 24MM adapter. You can use this to use the 24MM muzzue device on a 14x1LH threaded Saiga. The only issue is that since the AK-74 brake must maintain a specific orientation, you need to find a way to lock it into place, while keeping it removable for cleaning. You may be able to do this with a crush washer fitted against the FSB. You might also just tack weld the 24MM brake to the threaded adapter, which would effectively turn it into a 14x1LH threaded brake, but would still maintain the expansion chamber. It would just make it a bit harder to clean the inside of the brake.

     

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    GOOD:

     

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    Thank you for the really informative reply. I ordered a M14 threaded brake from Carolina Shooter's Supply. I am thinking now maybe I should have gone with a new FSB with 24MM AK74 adapter.

     

    EDIT: I should also note that I am in NJ and will need a permanently attached device. Not sure how that works with the adapter and 24 mm brake.

  4. Effectiveness of the AK74 Brake in recoil mitigation?

    in Saiga 7.62 X 39

    Posted

    Hello,

     

    I recently found out how "not that hard" it is to remove your barrel shroud and thread the barrel (if needed). I believe my 7.62 Saiga was manufactured before 09 so i have a non-threaded barrel.

     

    Naturally, I am now looking at putting a brake on my rifle (no flash hider/suppressor--NJ). Being I'll be cutting M14 threads, a couple different brake options are open.

     

    So on to the real question:

     

    How does the traditional 74 brake mitigate recoil as compared to something like a PWS or Battlecomp?

  5. BHO nescessary with Dinzag/Tapco G2 FCG?

    in Saiga 7.62 X 39

    Posted

    Do i need to install the BHO again? I noticed the hammer has some side to side play in it. It almost looks like it could contact the little rail on the receiver when fired, hasn't yet though.

     

    Installing the BHO will take care of the side to side movement of the hammer.

     

    If you don't want to install the BHO, a small washer (like the one Dinzag includes with the trigger) placed on the hammer pin to the right of the hammer (the side where the BHO would go) will also work.

     

    Wait, i don't remember getting a washer? I got 3 e-clips (those little pain in the ass things to put on) and 3 cotter pins. I ended up using the FCG retaining plate i bought from him instead.

  6. BHO nescessary with Dinzag/Tapco G2 FCG?

    in Saiga 7.62 X 39

    Posted

    This is how it works to my understanding:

     

    Dinzag modifies the SAIGA FCG's to fit the BHO. So if whether you have a .223, 7.62, or .308 Saiga, and you purchase your FCG from Dinzag...he cuts the hammer shaft sleeve to allow for the BHO.

     

    If you purchase AK-47 Tapco FCG, i believe you have to either cut the hammer pin sleeve or lose the BHO.

     

    I noticed my hammer walked to the side a little. I guess tonight i'll have to install the BHO.

  7. BHO nescessary with Dinzag/Tapco G2 FCG?

    in Saiga 7.62 X 39

    Posted

    I just recently finished my 7.62 conversion complete with Dinzag's G2 FCG, FCG retaining plate, and hardware. My question is, as i just noticed in someone else's thread....

     

    Do i need to install the BHO again? I noticed the hammer has some side to side play in it. It almost looks like it could contact the little rail on the receiver when fired, hasn't yet though.

     

    This is something the BHO takes up the slack in?

  11. clips and pins with dinzag tapco fcg

    in Saiga 7.62 X 39

    Posted

    i feel like i almost totally understand the conversion... im just not %100 clear on whats happening with the fcg.. i think its because im looking at the old crosscon conversion page... is there anything written up on doing the conversion besides that.. that might show the clips..

     

    Dinzag has a nice PDF on the installation of the FCG on his page. check it out.

     

    Cross Conn over complicates the conversion with the FCG since they use a double/single hook AK FCG. The one Dinzag sells is made by Tapco for the Saiga.

  14. One stop shop for kits?

    in Saiga Rifle Conversions

    Posted

    I looked at some of the sponsors but am confused. I have a 7.62x39 Saiga. I am looking for a vendor, sponsor preferably, that sells a kit that has most of what i need for the conversion.

     

    I understand i'll need some hardware but i mean somewhere that carries

     

    Fire Group

    Foregrip

    Pistol Grip

    Fixed Stock

    etc. etc.

     

    Anyone?

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