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I've threaded 5 Saigas and 1 Vepr using a quality threading die. You must use a thread barrel ID guide or else you will have a mess. I have no idea what a TAT is by the way. I also fell for the Amazon POS die but let it sit a long time before trying it and finding it China junk. So it sits in a drawer as a reminder to me.
Short for Thread Alignment Tool, which is exactly what you're talking about with the thread guide.
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Sounds like you tried to thread it without the "guide" that goes in the bore to keep the die straight? I recently tapped two of my own without any problems but when I tried to help another fellow thread one, his barrel was enough oversize on the OD of the barrel that though the die started it was stripping the threads as it tried to keep going. I stopped before I did too much permanent damage, so that the owner could have the OD cut down to size and there would be enough threads to hide the fubar on the end.
Nope, my mistake was using a cheap ass non-adjustable die, and the TAT fit a little loose. I could probably get by with it as is, but subconsciously it would bother me.
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I'm leaning towards getting the threaded 74 FSB. Even if I cut the barrel, and I don't think I have enough room to play with, I'd still have to get it crowned, and that would easily cost as much as the 74 FSB.
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So I decided to thread my barrel, but I skimped on the tools. I got a cheap non-adjustable die off Amazon, and was a little apprehensive at first, because the TAT fit a little loose in the die. Because of the cheap POS die, the threads are just slightly over-sized, and despite my patience and trying to be as careful as possible, the threads are a slight out of alignment, though I don't think it's so far out of alignment to cause any problems. So I'm faced with a dilemma. First, I'm going to return the die. Fortunately, it was fulfilled through Amazon, so I won't have to pay return shipping. What are the chances that, with a high quality die from Dinzag or CNC warrior, I could re-cut the threads and they would be properly aligned? I really don't like the fatter 24x1 brakes, but if it comes to that, I'll have to resort to getting a threaded FSB and leave it at that. What are your thoughts?
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This is the stock I currently have: http://www.kicklitestocks.com/ak-saiga-items/field-series-6-position-stock-ak-stamped-receiver-detail
What I plan on doing eventually is getting this: http://www.akoperatorsunionlocal4774.com/2014/06/ak-m4-stock-adapter-rifle-dynamics-gen-ii/ and going with a mil-spec tube and a decent buttstock.
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You don't need to remove the FSB. Cut the shroud off flush with the FSB and modify for the detent with the FSB on the rifle. This is what I did. Read all the way down. You will need the tat and die to thread the barrel as well as the detent (unless you make your own) and spring.
I saw that, and it looks good. My only issue is that I plan on using a 14x1 brake, and there's only one 14x1 brake that I know of that will fit flush with 1" deep threading, and that's the faux 74 brake sold by Dinzag. Most 14x1 brakes have 5/8-3/4" deep threads, which won't work for a flush fit. I might go the route you did and fabricate my own detent pin from drill stock.
My die, TAT, and die stock will be arriving tomorrow. I still haven't ordered my muzzle brake, I'm waiting to hear back from Circle 10 AK if they have the Jet Brake on hand, otherwise I'm going to order the Manticore Nightbrake.
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Yep. Its definitely doable. Just have to have your ducks in a row for modifying the factory FSB.
Are you planning on moving the FSB forward some, or cutting the muzzle down to accommodate the thread depth of the muzzle device so it bottoms out on the FSB and is retained by the FSB detent? If cutting the muzzle down, you will also need to recrown the muzzle. If moving the FSB forward, you will be left with an uncovered FSB pin notch in the barrel. You'll need to address one of those two issues along the way because there is alot of muzzle in front as it sits.
I'll have to move the FSB forward, as it's a 16" barrel. I could always cut and recrown, but then I'd either be a felon in the eyes of the evil BATFE, or I'd have to permanently attach the muzzle brake to keep it legal, neither of which are acceptable options to me.
And an exposed notch isn't too bad, and if I ever get tired of it I could swap out the FSB.
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If you're gonna go thru that hassle, just replace the FSB with a Russian 24mm threaded FSB from Legion USA (~$75). Just my opinion.
That is unless there is some 14x1 muzzle device you just have to use. Your plan seems like alot of work for not much benefit.
But I'm a cheapskate. If I can reuse something I already have, I will. Personally, I prefer the slimmer appearance of the 14x1 devices. Also, the brake I'm considering (the SRVV Jet Brake) is less expensive for the 14x1 version. I don't mind the extra work, and to me I'd rather invest time than money.
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Hi everyone. I've lurked on this forum for a while now, and this is my first thread. I've got a Saiga 7.62x39, and I have cut the barrel shroud and will be threading for a muzzle brake. The question I have is this: is it possible to reuse the FSB? I noticed that my FSB is not dimpled and is secured by pins, just like a standard AKM. I'm thinking about removing the FSB, cutting the shroud off completely, installing a detent, then reinstalling further forward on the barrel so that a muzzle device will fit flush against the FSB. Any thoughts on this? Has anyone successfully done this type of modification? Thanks!
Here's a photo of my FSB to give you an idea of what I'm talking about:
This is what happens when you try and save a buck
in Saiga 7.62 X 39
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I went ahead and installed the 74 FSB. The only other thing I may do to it is upgrade the buttstock, perhaps with the new Magpul Zhukov stock. Here she is: