[25 round Drum for VEPR 12 by SGM Tactical - Coming Soon]

This is a total bummer.  I've been on a just about every waiting list for over a year. 

[Free SGM Magazine with Vepr 12 PreOrders?]

A little more time for what? Bilking more customers is the only thing they will do with more time.

I've spent at least 3 grand with them and they disable their phones and block my email. I think I should contact the FBI for interstate fraud.

Go ahead and contact the gun friendly FBI . They may notify the ATF that you own an assault shotgun similar to the street sweeper .

ATF already is quite aware as I have an FFL

[Free SGM Magazine with Vepr 12 PreOrders?]

A little more time for what? Bilking more customers is the only thing they will do with more time.

I've spent at least 3 grand with them and they disable their phones and block my email. I think I should contact the FBI for interstate fraud.

[Mississippi disables their phone number and marks emails as spam. What]

I can't stay on them. I'm completely cut off outside of jumping on a plane and going over there.

I do, but then I realized they had their own section. I'm hoping to get a response from them or anyone that might have another way to contact them.

[Mississippi disables their phone number and marks emails as spam. What]

Short background. I purchased two Vepr 12s from Mississippi on preorder. For doing so, you were supposed to get a 10 round magazine with each gun. I'd done a lot of business with them before on S12 conversions and thought that I'd get my Veprs from them for the extra magazine offer and having had a history of purchasing from them.

 

They've been shipping magazines now for a while. They have chosen not to honor their additional magazine offer and have chosen instead to sell those magazines to someone else.

 

I have tried to call them, but the number is no longer in service.

I have emailed them and not gotten and answer. I email them in the morning and in the afternoon a few times a week.

They have now marked my emails as spam.

You can tell if they mark you as spam because you will stop receiving their automated message back.

 

 

I have no way to contact them. Any thoughts or help?

[Free SGM Magazine with Vepr 12 PreOrders?]

Emailing does no good. Not does calling as it says the number is disconnected. I ordered two Veprs also from them due to the free mag offer. Bait and switch. Buyer beware!

[Well this may be it.]

All we can do is wait and see what comes from his supremacy tomorrow to set the tone for the debate. I just purchased a life membership to the NRA as they may be our only chance.

I don't think there are any good men in Washington DC so I am not hopeful as to the outcome.

[SGM Vepr 12 Magazines]

Just in time for Christmas. Can't wait as I have them on order from MAA and Atlantic. I have about 800 rnds through my Russian 8 rounder so it's time to spread the love to some other mags.

[SGM Vepr 12 Magazines]

Just in time for Christmas. Can't wait as I have them on order from MAA and Atlantic. I have about 800 rnds through my Russian 8 rounder so it's time to spread the love to some other mags.

[SGM Tactical Vepr 12 Mags]

I've got mags on order with both Atlantic and Mississippi. Any chance for a discount for those of us patiently waiting on a future order?

[Picture Post, Lets see your Vepr-12]

Its the bake on Cerakote. I removed everything down to the rail on the dust cover. Milled out the rivets and replaced them when done. From the factory, their is not coating under the rail on the dust cover and I want as much protection as possible.

[Vepr-12 T-Shirt]

I'm in for one. Black or grey size large.

[1000 units]

I've got my two. One for modding and one stock. It sure has made Saiga's with LRBHO jump in price. I've seen them in Shotgun news for 1200 dollar.

[Vepr 12 plastic heat test and parts cleaner]

Updated the Vepr 12. I didn't like the mono chromatic look so I changed the furniture to Cerakote Graphite black and the bolt to Cerakote titanium.

[Picture Post, Lets see your Vepr-12]

Socom Blue Cerakote barrel and receiver

Titanium Cerakote Bolt / Carrier

Graphite Black Cerakote Furniture internals and E-Tac muzzle device

Tapco rails added to factory stock

DPH stock and Ace folding Mechanism

Tig welded rear receiver for folding mech.

Aimpoint Comp M2

Tapco trigger system

Shot peened bolt lugs and face

AK Sling

[Gotta have a new stock. Suggestions.]

DPH Arms billet stock. Looks awesome and works great.

http://dpharms.com/products/specials/saiga_tactical_furniture_package.html

[Vepr 12 plastic heat test and parts cleaner]

I did. I milled out sections of the stock that allowed me to fit tapco plastic rail solidly into place. I then epoxied them into place as well as used the screws that came with the set.

[Picture Post, Lets see your Vepr-12]

Socom Blue Cerakot, Etac door breach welded on for a total fo 18.1 inches, Aimpoint Comp M2, Tapco rails added to front stock

[Vepr 12 plastic heat test and parts cleaner]

Here are some of the pictures of the changes I made to the Vepr 12. Once I brok the gun down to its component pieces, I deburred each piece, then blasted the whole thing with 180 grit aluminum oxide and backed it at 250 degrees to remove any remaining contaminants.

I then sprayed the gun with SOCOM Blue Cerakote and baked all the pieces for 2 hours.

Once the gun was removed, I riveted the top trail back onto the dust cover with 5/32 solid steel rivets.

I then reassembled the gun and test fired it. Cerakote makes a huge difference in the feel of the action.

[Vepr 12 plastic heat test and parts cleaner]

The parts cleaner is O'Riley's brand brake cleaner. It was just the rail as it has been removed from the dust cover and gun. As a side note, I did not test the plastic of the mag well as it isn't going to be refinished.

 

One more thing. The rail is riveted on and the top of the dust cover under the rail has no finish. However, it did have a substantial amount of rust forming which was a surprise because my gun was covered in some sort of oil.

[Plastic top rail?]

The rail has steel embedded. It is really very durable from my testing, including heat solvents, mounting and removing multiple optics.

[Vepr 12 plastic heat test and parts cleaner]

While I was degreasing my new Vepr, I discovered that parts cleaner will take the black paint right off.

I tested the rail and heat shield to 300 degree f. No softening or distorting.

 

On to the cerakoting...

[Who is going to shorten there barrel?]

I've done this to 3 Saigas. It's all positive in my view no matter what muzzle device you go with.

My process is to cut it down, turn the barrel to the right diameter for threading, and thread. I drill a little hole in the muzzle break that is just big enough for me to put a weld bead in. I put the break on and fill the small hole with weld to make it permanent as requires ny law.

[Vepr 12 Cerakote / rails]

I'm going to cerakote my V12. However I have a concern about the plastic that is used. Does anone know its formulation? It needs to be able to hold up to about 200 degrees for a few hours to be Cerakoted.

 

My other options are: Remove the rail by drilling out the rivets that hold it in place or use the air dry cerakote. I will likely drill out the rivets and replace them with Pem flush mount studs as I don't like air dry cerakote as much.

Ideally, the plastic would hold up to the heating so if anyone knows or has experience with this, let me know.

 

Also, I like the hand guard the V12 comes with, but I am going to add Tapco rail segments to make it look like the European version of the V12. Just thought I'd pass this along as it is a lot cheaper than buying a whole new quad rail and I think the factory hand guard is a great platform to start with.