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Unfortunately, due to circumstances I can't control I must sell this collection of rifles. They all look new, as I cleaned and oiled them after every firing. The SKS is Yugoslavian (with the grenade launcher attachment), and was bought in unissued condition. All I did was clean off the cosmoline and fire a few rounds through it to make sure it works. None of these rifles have more than 300 rounds fired through them (the shotgun has less than 100). They will all come with slings and buffers installed (except the SKS). The .308 and 7.62 have the factory skeleton stocks with the cheekrest. I also have two POSP scopes for the rifles (1 new 8x42 still in packaging, and 1 barely used 2.5-5x24 for the 7.62) that are available and also in pristine condition. Asking prices:
Saiga 12: $525 shipped to your FFL
.308: $470 shipped to your FFL
7.62: $400 shipped to your FFL
SKS: $225 shipped to your FFL
Scopes - Asking $200 for the 8x42 and $150 for the 2.5-5x24.
I would like to sell these locally in the Austin/San Antonio area because I'm having trouble finding an FFL willing to ship rifles at a reasonable price that were not purchased with them. If picked up locally price will go down $25 for each. However, if you are still interested, PM me and I'll keep trying to find an FFL that ships. Thanks for your interest.
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If you can part with yours, or know someone else who might or where they can be found, pls let me know!!! Thanks.
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Hey gang,
I did a quick search about this, but all I found were threads on long-term storage for mags.
I'm fixin' to go away for a few months, and was wondering if releasing the hammer in my Saigas would be better than leaving them cocked over a period of a few months (to relieve tension in the spring). Is this a good idea, or does it really matter?
Thanks.
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Hey guys,
Quick question - how often should I clean and lubricate my gun? today i fired around 80 rounds and im sitting here trying to understand what the hell the broken english in the manual is tryuing to tell me. Do you guys know of any sites that may have a maintnance guide for this rifle so I can assure its longevity?
if not maybe some of you guys can give me some tips on which parts need cleaning/lube?
any help is much appreciated
thanks,
Josh
Congrats on your purchase. I'm sure from what you've read here we are all enthusiastic with our fine Russian weapons.
As far as cleaning/maintenance goes, there is a reason why most poor third-world countries outfit their armies or militias with Kalashnikov-action weapons....they can take a hellified beating and be dirty as hell, and they can still fire. You don't have to worry about taking off the gas tube assembly until you have fired a few hundred rounds at least (and even that is probably considered to be "clean-freakish"). I personally clean all of my weapons after each firing, but that's only a habit I've acquired from the military - you don't have to be that worried about Saigas and their chrome-lined barrels (helps against corrosion in the barrel).
All that I do after I fire my Saigas is remove the cover and bolt carrier assembly, and clean all of the moving parts and the barrel. For the cleaning of the moving parts, I use Break Free Powder Blast. It works really well, and evaporates quickly. For the barrel, I use #9. I then lube everything up using Break Free CLP (oil bottle and/or spray bottle). To finish up, I wipe the weapon down using a silicone cloth to remove fingerprint oils. All this takes about 10 minutes, but it goes a long way towards making sure the weapon retains it's value.
You might also want to get a buffer (you can do a search on the forum for these). These are a must have for Kalashnikov-action weapons because they preserve the operating life of the action.
Hope this helps. Have fun plinking!
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I have both and I love both of them. The trigger on my 308 is actualy smoother and better than on my 7.62. Neither is converted yet ( waiting on parts )The 7.62 wins with mags and cheaper ammo but as far as true general purpose i would go 308.
+1 for what concho said. I too own both calibers, and for dropping havelinas and such the x39 is good (not using FMJ, of course). But if the opportunity for hunting larger game presents itself, you would be severely limited with the x39. The .308 is a much better option for shots over 100 yds. and for accuracy; but mostly for efficient dispatching of the game (one shot, one kill.....it's a hunter's ed thing). Just my .02.....
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I'm thinking about possibly purchasing posp 4x24 version..But some of the glass I've look thru at the fun shows has had a yellowish tint and some have not. Is there a manufacturer thats better than the other? This forum seems to think highly of eastwave,whats the quality of there's?.....thanks
Been very pleased with the quality of the Eastwave scopes. They are manufactured in Belarus and arrive directly from there when ordered.
thanks, tritium, how's the glass in your scopes from eastwave? What I mean is the glass clear or does it have that yellowish tint....
No yellowish tint that I can detect. Pretty natural color, no aberration.
I use nothing but POSP scopes on my Saigas, and every single one of them have been of great quality....no issues whatsoever. Plus, Saiga/POSP combinations almost always elicit questions (and compliments) when I'm plinking on the range.....
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Hey gang,
Like I mentioned above, I'm getting a little tired of getting stock mags only to find out after the fact that a mag will fit one S12 and not the other; especially when the mag is sealed new in a package that was sent from afar. It's not like I can just roll down to any gun shop, gun show, or sporting goods store to try the mags out like an AK owner could (mags are plentiful for them).
I just spent more than I probably should have for a 2 round mag recently, only to find out that the damn thing would not sit in the S12 that I bought it for (it did fit in the 24" BBL, and not the 19" like I wanted). This has also happened to me before with 5 rounders as well. I even posted on a certain problem I had with a 5 rnd mag awhile ago.
Now I know from reading here in the forum and from my own experience owning five of these otherwise fine weapons that Russian quality control is somewhat different than Western standards, but dammit, I hate having to mess with modifying mags (successfully or not) seemingly all of the time!!!!! OK, I feel better now.......
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Hey gang,
I took my newest S12 out for some slug shooting today, and brought it back to clean. When I removed the gas piston, I noticed the top part of the piston was a little loose at the base where the threads are. I'm assuming this didn't mess up the action of the rifle, because it fired all of the slugs I had with no problems. I'm just wondering if this is something I should worry about long term, and if there's a way for me to tighten it up nice and tight like the piston in my other S12 is......thanks.
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Damn, it is strange. I had a job interview the other day and while I was home preparing I started to stress out, next thing I knew I was on the phone putting money down on an S12, it was like I was being compelled by some otherworldly force. The stress just got to me I guess.
did you take the s-12 to the interview? lol
I did the same thing not too long ago when all of the talk of the AWB started. I now have enough Saigas (and a Yugo SKS thrown in for good measure) to arm a fire team against an incoming horde of zombies....now all I have to do is fill up my ammo cans with enough slugs and .308/7.62x39 to feed them all. A nice problem to have......
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I will take it! E-mail me with payment mailing details.
Thanks!
DRJ
Sold pending receipt of funds.
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Picture added per request.....
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Hey Gang,
Up for sale is a factory siderail 1" scope mount that I bought with my first Saiga. Since I only use POSP scopes now, I no longer have a need for it. It was used only once; it is practically new. It has a small mark where the locking lever meets up with the rear part of the bracket when loosening it up to remove it from the rail, but that's it. Comes with instructions/acceptance certificate. Asking $45 shipped. Thanks, and regards.
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+1,000,000 For Crow, anybody dealing with this man should do so with all confidence. Thanks again partner!
I also bought 1000 rounds of South African 7.62x39 off of him, and the stuff was as good as advertised. Good man!
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The Saiga 12 mags sometimes need some light filing to adapt to specific guns.They are each a little different it seems.I've had to do some light filing on a 5 rounder so it would seat up well.Just look to see where it is not lining up/catching and do a little file work,try again.
Thanks, Hunter. It looks like the rear lip of the mag is not catching above the mag release lever. I'll probably have to remove the metal piece behind the mag to file. Thanks!
Update on this thread. Turns out I had to file down (quite a bit) the top rear part of the magazine, just up from the lip that locks up against the clip release lever. It took a good 15 mins. of filing, but the mag works fine now.
Let us know how this works out for you. I've only ever filed the plastic on the back side of the mag, so that the mag release can catch on it. You moved the position of the whole mag, instead of moving just the engagement point.
-K
After altering the mag, I took it out to range and fired 15 rounds of Wolf rifled slugs; two mags at 4 seconds between each shot, and the last mag at 1 second per shot. The action was flawless, and no trip-ups from the altered mag's feeding into the receiver. Sounds like this may have been a first-heard for this much of an alteration to a stock 5 rnd mag, but it now works just like the mag my S12 came with. Before I filed down the mag, it looked like the mold used for the manufacture of this particular lot of mags had more plastic left over on the area described above as opposed to the one that came with the weapon. The base of that mag looks different too...the bottom edges of the mag are flared outwards, and the other one is straight.
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Well, we are glad you asked. What most of the .308 guys won't tell you is that the Saiga .308 version is made of much flimsier material than the x39. Some say they are actually made from melted down old Chevy Luv pickup trucks. They are very inaccurate and difficult to control. It is very hard to find high capacity magazines for them.... Do you know why? I'll bet they never told you over there in the .308 section....... The Saiga .308 will unload an entire magazine (sometimes at schools) at random intervals. And they have been proven in the state of California to cause cancer. If you don't live there you will be ok, but all of the other reasons should be reason enough to go with the original..... The 7.62x39!
But seriously, some of the members here own both and can give you a great idea of the differences, streangths and weaknesses between the calibers. I don't really have a clue, I've never even shot a .308 Saiga. I shouldn't even be aloud to post after my 3rd Coors Light.... 99% of the members here (even the newbies)really know thier shit and are greatly helpful. Welcome aboard and I hope you benefit from the combined expertise floating around in here. Making an educated descision is the smartest way to make it.
I happen to own both the x39 and .308. I normally use the x39 for plinking because the ammo is much cheaper than .308. I've never really even thought of taking the x39 hunting, because all of my shots are usually long (over 150 yds.). I also try to make sure that I drop whatever game I'm trying for with one shot. The way for me to do that is to use a caliber that has shock/stopping power (in case I'm a little astray of the vital area), and the power to travel greater distances more accurately. That, for me, translates to the S308. But that doesn't mean that I wouldn't take my x39 to go hog or turkey hunting; to the contrary. Bottom line, if you intent to hunt medium/large game, the best way (and the most humanitarian way, I would think) to go is the S308. Just my $.02....
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I've often wondered which is more accurate. Common sense tells me the longer barreled rifle would be more accurate, but according to the guys on here, the carbine is actually a little better. I own 2 21 inchers, but the plan is to sell one and buy a 16 incher, so I'll have both. Then I'll be able to judge better.
Incidentally, I just finished my first conversion (nearly- still have to install the trigger guard). That thing basically kicked my ass (G2). But, the perseverance payed off, I like the look. Now if my fbmg's will just show up I'll be set.
J
Thanks for the replies....interesting that the shorty (16") could potentially be more accurate than the 21" according to the posts. Oh well, yet another excuse to go do some more shooting to find out once and for all! Either way, my Saiga collection is now up to four, and that's a good thing!
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Hey gang,
I went ahead and bought another S308 this week, just in case some a@#$wipe decides to re-institute the misnomered "Assault Weapons Ban" (and also because it was a convenient excuse). However, the shop only had short barrel S308's in stock - I wanted another long barrel S308 like the one I use now for hunting. I bought it anyway...but I'm wondering if there's any real difference (especially for long shots 175 yds. plus) between these. I know that the long barrel is money from experience....any thoughts on the shorty?
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In regard to VOMZ scopes, I actually considered getting one in the past but after reading some reviews I decided that they are not worth the money. Reviews such as this on VOMZ REVIEW
I'd recommend using a POSP scope for your S308. I have an 8x42 on mine, and I love it. The quality (brightness) of the optics are at least as good as the Nikon Buckmaster I had on a Howa 1500 .308 I sold awhile back (I have all Saigas now). They can be found on www.eastwave.ca . Great scope for the money, and they always get looks/questions on the range!
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The Saiga 12 mags sometimes need some light filing to adapt to specific guns.They are each a little different it seems.I've had to do some light filing on a 5 rounder so it would seat up well.Just look to see where it is not lining up/catching and do a little file work,try again.
Thanks, Hunter. It looks like the rear lip of the mag is not catching above the mag release lever. I'll probably have to remove the metal piece behind the mag to file. Thanks!
Update on this thread. Turns out I had to file down (quite a bit) the top rear part of the magazine, just up from the lip that locks up against the clip release lever. It took a good 15 mins. of filing, but the mag works fine now.
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The Saiga 12 mags sometimes need some light filing to adapt to specific guns.They are each a little different it seems.I've had to do some light filing on a 5 rounder so it would seat up well.Just look to see where it is not lining up/catching and do a little file work,try again.
Thanks, Hunter. It looks like the rear lip of the mag is not catching above the mag release lever. I'll probably have to remove the metal piece behind the mag to file. Thanks!
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Evening gang,
Just got back from the range shooting some Wolf rifled slugs (great stuff), and I tried using a new 5 rnd mag I bought, new in the package. Whenever I tried to load the mag in the receiver, the rear lip of the mag would not lock into place. I looked at another good mag I have side by side, and I can't really see any difference. The only thing I can see is that the plastic area that is cut-off in a "U" shape on the rear of the good mag looks "cleaner" than the other new mag I have. I doubt that has anything to do with seating the mag in the receiver. Has anybody else had something like this happen to them before? How can I fix the mag so that it stays seated? Thanks.
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Just like the ad says, I'm looking to buy a two-rounder. If you have one you wouldn't mind parting with (or know someone who does), please let me know. I don't know where else to look. Thanks.
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Pulled from FreeRepublic.com, an originalist blog:
Saiga 12-gauge (obviously based upon the Kalashnikov design).
Isn't that an NFA'34 "destructive device"? I thought nasty-looking weapons were limited to bore sizes of 0.499" or less [i.e. either a .410 or maybe a 28-gauge with fixed choke].
To: supercat
Looks like someone found another "loophole"! Anyway, nasty-looking is in the eye of the beholder - I happen to think that the Saiga would look sweet next to my dad's Browning Superposed!
Perhaps the lack of freestanding pistol grip, bayonet lug and flash hider allows it to sneak by, despite the bore diameter.
WTS: 24" Saiga 12, 22" Saiga .308, Saiga 7.62, SKS
in Unsorted Ads prior to November 2012 (WTS / WTT)
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Yes, they are all unmodified.