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  1. Barrel threading thead (sequence of users & tech)

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    Got the tool, die and flash suppressors on Friday - finished the barrels on Saturday. EZ to use, and remember folks use lots of oil and take your time.

     

    For those of you who are trying to 'time' the flash suppressor, take it slow and check often, check often. Did I mention to check often? Getting the timing right is actually the most time consuming aspect... but both are timed right at 12 o'clock.

     

    Anyway, they look great. Thanks for making the great product johnnymceldoo... I'll contact you via email to find out who to send the tool to next.

  3. Prototype#2

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    I'm really looking forward to getting my flash suppressors. I do have a question for johnnymceldoo...

     

    Is there one standard die fixure or do you need to know whether or not the barrel will be threaded at 22" or 18.5"?

     

    The reason I ask is that there is a slight taper... does it even matter?

  4. Cutting down a 12C barrel

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    I spoke with a local Class2 who incrementally cut down a barrel on a SBS Saiga he made. He indicated that he was been able to go as short as 14.5 inches without having to modify the gas port opening and/or the recoil spring. His advise to me was not to go shorter than 15 inches. (FYI - He ultimately shortened his to about an 1 and 1/2 inches in front of the gas port, but had to modify the gas port to get it to function. Unfortunately I don't know what loads he was shooting... but I'm guessing something much more powerful than standard bird shot.)

     

    So unless you're planning on filing a Form 1 and making a short barrel shotgun, the length shouldn't be an issue. For those of you who are thinking about cutting the barrel down and permanently welding a flash suppressor... I would think that you would want to keep the original barrel at least 16 inches

  5. QUESTION on Barrel Length

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    I am interested in cutting down my Saiga 12 barrel to 18.5 inches. I am somewhat confused by the measurements owners on this board are stating as well as the length indication in the Saiga owners manual. Everyone is stating (as well as the owners manual) that they come with ~22 inch barrels, but when you measure from the bolt face it is closer to 23 inches. Now... the barrle is 22 inches from the front of the receiver... but that is not how the ATF measures, right?

     

    I understand that the ATF and U.S. measurement is from the bolt face... thus I can remove 4.5 inches to get to 18.5 inches. This is correct, right?

     

    I'm guessing that other nations (e.g. Russia) may measure from the receiver, right?

     

    Any help on this topic is GREATLY appreciated.

  6. handguard option?

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    I'm working on it right now. It looks very promising (versus standard AK handguards). In summary, it has much more room inside the handguard than a standard AK, and the only thing that needs to be modified is (1) the rear tang which inserts in to the receiver and (2) the front 'U' area where some meat needs to be removed to fit arount the barrel. I've already done both of these mods. Now, I need to manufacture a retainer plate for the front of the handguard.

     

    My day job is keeping me extremely busy, and I don't expect to finish it before December. I have started on the front retainer... I'll post when done.

  8. Problems Fitting TAPCO G2 FCG

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    I caution you against modifying any contact points between the hammer, disconnector and trigger. Plus your problem is with the trigger, not the hammer.

     

    First, I'm assuming all of the springs and parts are installed correctly. If so... I have had a similar problem and it was the result of the rear of the trigger being too tall/thick. What I mean by tall is that when the hammper spring presses down on the back of the trigger, the trigger material is too tall (vertically) for the selector to ride over it. This will also limit the trigger travel and not allow the disconnector to sufficiently release the hammer.

     

    SOLUTION - Keep in mind that for the trigger to have MORE travel, you need to file material from the bottom of the rear of the trigger. File a little at a time so you don't remove too much material. I filed mine so that there is absolutely NO travel when the selector is set to Safe. The filed surface will touch the receiver - NOT THE HAMMER SPRING. This 'shorter' trigger' will provide more trigger travel thereby (1) allowing for your selector to easily ride over the trigger, (2) allow the disconnector to release the hammer and (3) elimnate the need to push the trigger forward to accomplish the first two points.

  9. Firefly Conversion

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    I wouldn't worry too much about the ATF right now. I previously posted an article with USAS declaration and my rationale for how this previous ruling may impact the Saiga. I expect them - at some point - to define pistol gripped Saigas as DDs... but this will also impact our friendly police as well as the importation and purchase for police departments in the future. PDs don't particularly care for hassle of paperwork either... especially for shotguns. Case in point, how many PDs do you know that regularly issue NFA 'short barrelled shotguns'... it's more the exception than the rule.

     

    The sporting Saiga has been, and I expect will be, continued to be imported as sporting. Think about it... if it was defined as sporting under Clinton's reign... I'm sure it will stay that way. However, I do anticipate the ATF maybe making the rule that possession of a sporting Saiga with 'assault' features (e.g an 8 round mag) may constitue a DD. (Similar to a 37mm smooth tear gas 'gun' and a penetrating 37mm round, or other solid projectile (e.g. bean bag) round for that matter. You can own them seperately, but if you posses both you have - in essence - a DD.)

     

    The USAS had an extensive registration amnesty... years. So as long as you have a pistol grip, or folding stock or 8 round mag or whatever BS they define the Saiga configuration as being a DD... you'll be amnestied. Once the paperwork arrives you can always send to a gunsmith for 'the rest of the mods.'

     

    KEEP in mind that the ATF would have to do this for 20 gauge as well... as the bore is larger than .50, right? And keep in mind that the ATF never declared the Franchi SPAS 15 as a DD. It's very similar to the USAS and Saiga... but it's one rare bird. Do a image search on the web for the Frachi... you won't be disappointed.

     

    One other thing to keep in mind - the Bush factor... although he doesn't control the ATF... I doubt the ATF will do something that isn't approved by the DOJ and/or Treasury... which goes back to an appointed Attorney General and an appointed Treasury Secretary. Even in the government you don't step on your bosses toes!

  10. Saiga 8 rd mag

    in Saiga-12

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    You only need to replace 3 parts. Replace the fire control group with a US set as people have mentioned above. If you want to leave the stock you can... BUT you will need to cut off the portion of the US hammer that protrudes through the bottom of the receiver off so that it will fit in an unmodified Saiga.

  12. Saiga 8 rd mag

    in Saiga-12

    Posted

    Use a standard US FCG and perform the modifications outlined on this board for the trigger and hammer. After you're done, cut the trigger off so that you can use it in your non-pistol grip Saiga. You basically need to do some more cutting on the 'trigger' than the usual pistol grip conversion.

  15. OK, WHO'S GONNA DO IT???

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    Yes, we would be grandfathered and anyone that assembled one prior to the ruling would be grandfatered. But it doesn't necessarily mean the guns will go up in value if the ATF rules the standard 'sporting' Saiga to be a non DD. The sporting version would still be importable. Hell.. they may rule that an owning an 8 round mag and a standard Saiga constitutes a DD. This way Saigas would never really go up in value and anyone that didn't have a registered DD would be in violation of an unregistered DD if they were to ever insert an 8 rounder in a sporting model. That is EXACTLY what I think they'll do to limit 'proliferation' of the marketplace for these shotguns and parts.

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