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the danger area that i can see is the breach face, and the strength of the barrel latch.when using the correct ammunition the pressure to the rear or the cartrige is spread over the 1 inch diameter of the breach face, when firing a 45lc you considerably reduce the area you are transferring the load to.
in simple terms its easy to poke the sharp end of a screwdriver through a sheet of roofing iron, turning it around and trying to poke the handle through the iron with the same force will take you all day.
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i woud start by sourcing a good (and common) .22 magazine and building it from there. it may be too wide to fit in the mag well but ruger10/22 mags are reliable commom, cheap and plenty of large capacity options,
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i collect and restore even bigger guns,ww2 jap type 92 mountain gun done for now(looking for breach mechanism , anybody?), have a barrel for a 40mm bofors, just looking for the rest. also like getting out in my boat(no picture as its not very cool!)
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Sunnybean, we get saigas and veprs here, the most expensive is the vepr at around $1500nzd,to $2500. unconverted saigas around 900 to 1000nzd. the supply is not constant and often they are not avalible then the price goes up for the the next shipment. you folks have got plenty of good stuff at excellent prices, about the only thing we are better of in is silencers, no restrictions or permits needed, just walk in and buy them or spin one up on the lathe.
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i would be a little concerned about the strenght of the flare pistol firing fairly powerful ammo(410 and 45) ? you know how some things dont break if you hit it once with a hammer,but after you hit it 20 times it falls apart.......
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I have a canadian NEA 15 on order, 14 inch barrel version(no sbr rules over here , it just has to be over 30 inches total length), hopefully the shipment arrives before easter?
Never heard of them until now. Look pretty sweet! What was your deciding factor(s) for the NEA instead of some other high end maker?
because they come from canada there is none of the extra costs and red tape that the US charge for exporting, its touted as the first new AR15 to cost less than $2000 NZD in about 15 years. the cheapest at the moment is the Anderson AM15 at $2500 NZD, i have wanted an AR for years but the price was too high, gun shops were gouging customers, for years as demand outstripped supply, now small companies are able to bring them in and undercut the big guys we can finally have some sensible prices( sensible for us, i know you guys would choke at paying 2k for a budget AR)
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I have a canadian NEA 15 on order, 14 inch barrel version(no sbr rules over here , it just has to be over 30 inches total length), hopefully the shipment arrives before easter?
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Im building a picture on how hard this is going to be so thanks for all the advice!
sadly the police do not allow an existing pistol grip/stock combination to be linked by a piece of metal to make a crude thumbhole stock(although they do exist here but over the years rules have changed and been more strictly enforced so anything coming across the border has to comply with todays standards), and yes we do have a magazine restriction on regular semi autos(called A catagory)its 7 rounds, you cant even have a big mag blocked to 7 rounds, it must be cut down so it also visually appears to hold only 7 rounds.i would be able to source uzi mags in country as there are a few about .
i will contact MAA and find out about the fees required for export and if indeed a chinese firearm can be exported. another problem i face is police inspection on landing in nz, if a new model of firearm is imported it must be inspected by the police armourers. in the past norinco uzis have had this done and some are in circulation already so they can not turn down your application for import. if for example a century uzi was to be imported , that model even though it is essentially the same as a norinco would have to go in for inspection and approval, police policy is different than law and im sure it would be turned down for some minor reason as they are not keen on anything semi automatic and if it looks like an uzi it will scare them even more .
i will do some thinking on this problem,people have got norinco uzis in before so it must be possible to do it again?
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We do exporting. I highly suggest that if you can legally own in New Zealand, you would be better off finding a source for it out of the United States because the strict US State Department Requirements. Since you are not a United States resident and the gun is not made in the United States, you would save a fortune finding it outside of the United States.
good advice! any ideas on a reliable dealer outside the US that could supply one?(i emailed norinco china but they didnt reply, i guess you have to buy a shipping container full to get their attention)i have also looked into canada but they are on a banned import list over there so that turned into a dead end.
i may just have to put my hand in my pocket and pay the extra fees and import one from you folks? another option is to get a US made one fitted with the nasty wooden thumbhole stock from a norinco to keep the nz police happy.
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It might be easier to import one directly from China.
The US does have a ban of sorts in place on the importation of firearms (except some sporting shotguns) from China, but I've never heard of re-exportation being any more of a hassle with Chinese arms.
Is the NZ bureaucracy just picky about folding stocks, or does the pistol grip get their collective panties in a knot as well? There are also fixed wooden stocks available for the Uzi that are not thumbhole-style. It would be easy enough to install one of these on any other full-sized Uzi carbine in place of the folding stock. Or, an Uzi carbine with a folding stock could be spot-welded permanently open, if that passes muster with NZ governmental types.
the pistol grip is just one of the naughty parts over here, you can have one with a special licence( the guns are classified as E catagory and can have pistol grips, big mags and flash hiders and folding stocks) but you cant import one unless you hand in a complete "E" catagory firearm for destruction and there are only around 5000 in country and priced accordingly , the police dont want any more so its one in the crusher if you want to bring one in.
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even if you are not getting a 5.45 at the moment buy a couple of boxes of that cheap ammo. over here in nz the price of any ammo is shocking and i wish i had bought up large 10 years ago. even if you sit on it for 10 years it will still go bang but the guy next to you on the range will be paying 2022 prices for what he is shooting. have fun in the forces,i did 8 years nz army, you make life long friends there that you can count on through thick and thin!
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yep, as soon as i put the piston in i knew it wasnt going to work(piston extension hitting flutes) luckily a mate works at a place that makes concrete core drills, he gave me a box of short off cuts of dom in a good range of sizes, new tube made and moving on to the gas ports.
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over here in nz there are a few norinco uzis that a big gun shop has managed to bring in. and check out the serious gouging on the price! on special at $6000 down from $12000. only drug dealers can afford their prices. as you folks will know they sell for about $750 usd on gun broker. i want to beat these bastards and get one in at a fair price
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Hi folks, im in new zealand and im interested in buying a norinco uzi from the US.
it is possible for me to import a US made firearm with the usual state department approval and contracting a ffl with an export licence. i recently heard that chinese manifactured firearms were banned from export(and import) from the US, is this true?
unfortunatly i cant get a permit to import(from nz police)for a century or other US made uzi as we are not allowed folding stocks,sadly the wooden thumbhole stock on the norinco is what makes our govt happy.
so bottom line, can chinese guns be exported?
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from what i saw vince was the talented one in the workshop, the others were just parts fitters, same with the other vince on american chopper, he was pretty clever, the others were personalities(good and bad) and were there to make a tv show, the vince was there to make motorbikes/guns.
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it looks good,i would just keep it oiled and give it a trip to the range every now and then, a mate has a ww1 webley 455 he shoots in the classic pistol comp,its great to see the old war horses being used, it also gets more attention than any of the shiney new guns at the range.
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My stocks and mags turned up today, couldnt be happier, great deal, thanks very much!
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Nice looking pistol , having the story to go with it is priceless, make sure you write it down and hand it on to your kids!
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well i could only stare at for so long, i cut the tube near the rear sight boss, put it in the 4 jaw and turned out the remaining bit of gas tube untill it was paper thin. it peeld out fairly easily leaving 3 spot welds across the top and 1 at the bottom, they will dremmel out easily. reassembly should be no problem, i dont think i will bother spot welding the tube back in as its captive once the gas block is on.
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Hi Folks, im at the stage of cutting my gas tube back 2 inches to match the new position of the gas block. i have had a look for the best way of cutting the tube but didnt realy find much. to those who have done this before, can i remove the tube from the boss/rear sight housing and how is it attached?, if so it would be a simple cut out 2 inches and reassemble, i would not loose any of the flutes. is this the best option ? any ideas or guidance would be much appreciated. cheers tim
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im fine with police brutality in any situation that involves a non complient criminal. if you are too drunk/stoned/stupid to do what you are told by a police officer carrying out his duties then a good tazering or a bit of batton rash should serve as a reminder that you just need to pull your head in.
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we have both veprs and saigas here in new zealand, the quality of the vepr is evident as soon as you pick one up, they cost more but you get what you pay for! i would buy vepr over saiga if i was filthy rich, im not so im using a saiga and have no complaints. people often mention the extra strength of the vepr reciever, has antbody ever had trouble with a saiga reciever failing?(running over with pick up dosnt count)
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it only exists as a mock up? its not a space shuttle, you think the boss could go down to the workshop on wednesday and say , igor knock up an ak with hinged dust cover, ambi safty and bolt handle an one of those short piston thingys to soften recoil. get the apprentice to help as i want it done by the end of the week.
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you could make a nice drinks holder to slot into that rail, not too practicle but good on a hot day!
SBS saiga 12 top cover mod?
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Hi Folks, i have got my saiga 12 shorty shooting now, i have the problem of the top cover coming off every now and then, i know there are descriptions on how to fix this as i browsed over them some time ago, (after a fair bit of searching i cant find a thing) can any body point me in the right direction? cheers.